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MstrssPassion -> RE: Tattoos = Masochism (7/7/2006 7:06:57 AM)
quote: It's your body, not his, even once the collar goes into place - and you are the one who has to take care of it, keep it from getting infections in piercing sites, keep ink from fading through poor care, etc... whether he's in your life or not. This is so true. Please do keep in mind that tattoos are permanent, partners aren't.

DominaAngelina -> RE: Tattoos = Masochism (7/7/2006 7:17:17 AM)
OH! MY! The pain vs. the pleasure of tattooing. I am a dominant who enjoys the sweet line between pain and pleasure when it comes to tattooing. My inker calls it my fix, and in away … it is. Each tat has a significant meaning … o.k., except the one on my lower back, it was cute and I wanted it. I am not a masochist, but a true sadist, who enjoys pushing her own limits of pleasure. Tattooing just happens to be one way I find to do this, and they look damn! Incredible. I have over 20 tattoos … working on a full star sleeve on the left arm, and a pinup sleeve on the right. I have a back piece, and both of my calves are tattooed as well. Seriously, I was diagnosed with ovarian cancer years ago, and while I would sit, enduring my wonderful drip, I would always look at the stars they had upon the ceiling; wishing upon each one to be allowed one more day – Well, my wishes came true … hence the reason for the star sleeve. You’re probably asking, what’s the reason behind the pinup sleeve…. Mmm… Catholic guilt LOL! However, this is another story, another day.

tendergirl -> RE: Tattoos = Masochism (7/7/2006 7:21:14 AM)
Hi everyone, just jumping back into the thread after reading all of your thoughts. This man may not intend to modify my body prior to collaring, please let me make that clear. At present, he really puts me through my paces but says he is not ready to take on the responsibility of me as his sub. He actually wants to own another slave and is exploring whether or not I have enough slave tendancies to develop. Perhaps this is why he hesistates. Who knows? I will as respectfully as possible decline to modify my body until such time as we have moved forward with a committment. I don't want to have my tongue pierced but will do it if instructed following collaring. I don't really want to have my nipples pierced either, but again, will do. To be honest, I am quite lost right now as I have no clue where this is leading. He plays with/sees other people and that worries me. The fact he might drop me at any time worries me, but that can happen in any relationship. He is a good man, a good Dom and I trust Him implicitly with my body. I just don't want to pierce my tongue. But I do want to please Him. So perhaps He won't push this piercing tattooing issue until He has decided whether or not to keep me. And I will ask His advice as to how to explain it to my work colleagues and kids. thank you all for your help. With love and light, tendergirl

MstrssPassion -> RE: Tattoos = Masochism (7/7/2006 7:30:03 AM)
tendergirl I'll be blunt.. if this guy isn't willing to make a longterm commitment then why should you make a lifelong commitment? I'll close with the old saying I have posted to others on here before Why buy the cow when you're getting the milk for free.

sleazybutterfly -> RE: Tattoos = Masochism (7/7/2006 7:30:36 AM)
I really don't think it makes them either way. I have 3 tatts done and a few piercings. The first tatt.. hurt horrid.. or so I thought.. but I was determined to get it. The second and third.. they both mean something.. so I think I wanted them to hurt. What I mean is, the one on the back of my neck.. I got after the first try of having a baby.. it is for myself and the person I was with at the time. I was actually a little ticked it didn't hurt at all. The one on my chest (butterfly), was in memory of my grandmother that passed the year before and it hurt something awful. I did take the pain in though.. I got it on the anniv. of her death, and two days before I turned 30.. I let the pain of her death sort of come out in the process... it was welcome. So in a way maybe they were masochistic, but it wasn't the intention.. or maybe it was..hmmmm... I also agree with above.. all of mine look just as good now as when I got them. There is a difference between quality work and quantity work. Respectfully, andrea My always able to sleep dog, says hi to your always able to sleep dog, Suzanne. While he and she slept quite well and snug last night..their "owner" was up till almost 6 am.. ugh. I think if I come back in my next life, I am for sure coming back as the dog of someone like me.

MHOO314 -> RE: Tattoos = Masochism (7/7/2006 7:55:22 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Noah Inspired by this week's thirteenth Overweight Subs thread I would like to ask if it is really true that any dominant who has more than one or two tattoos is really a masochist, and therefore a switch, and therefore not real and true and usually saddled with an addictive personality and probably having trouble with gender identification besides? Just curious. We can talk about piercing in a minute. I just wanted to get this straightened out first. What an odd question---I see tattoos as a body modification/beautifier and no relation to My orientation as a Dominant---I have just added My third tattoo--having done them over the last 2-3 years--they are My identification of who I am and My heritage---I also have a pierced navel and 7 earrings in each ear---each of those mean something special--it has nothing to do with masochsim, for I see in order to be able to give pain I need to take pain and a tattoo is hardly what I call pain---that does not make Me a switch--it makes Me a wise sadist.

MasterFireMaam -> RE: Tattoos = Masochism (7/7/2006 7:56:51 AM)
What we do does not define who we are. A masochist is not always a submissive trait...a sadist is not always a Dominant one. I have 3 tats and fully acknowledge that I have a masochistic streak. It usually comes out in a spiritual/energy context. I know several Masters who are masochists. It doesn't make them any less a Master...or a switch. It CAN, but often it doesn't. Master Fire

Noah -> RE: Tattoos = Masochism (7/7/2006 9:44:38 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MstrssPassion PS... just where the hell does GID come into this? Someone really needs to do some research. Hey thanks MP. Next can you explain for us why a rabbi, a goat, and a martian wouldn't really walk into a bar?

MistressSassy66 -> RE: Tattoos = Masochism (7/7/2006 12:36:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Noah Inspired by this week's thirteenth Overweight Subs thread I would like to ask if it is really true that any dominant who has more than one or two tattoos is really a masochist, and therefore a switch, and therefore not real and true and usually saddled with an addictive personality and probably having trouble with gender identification besides? Just curious. We can talk about piercing in a minute. I just wanted to get this straightened out first. Hmmm....interesting question. I like getting tats...One because they are artwork that means something to Me. Two its a way express yourself. Three...it hurts and I love that[:D]. I dont think liking pain auomatically makes you a switch,I dont think it automatically makes you anything except someone who likes to get tats.

LadiesBladewing -> RE: Tattoos = Masochism (7/7/2006 1:10:18 PM)
I'm not a psychiatrist, so I won't even try to psychoanalyze the psychiatric boundaries of people with tats, but I can tell you that I have 2, and have commissioned the art for 3 more to complete my set. It has nothing to do with the lifestyle in -any- way. They are a requirement of my station in my spiritual path -- each of the first 5 years as an Elder in the community are marked by a permanent mark on the body, as a living, visible reminder that we can never hide from the commitments we have undertaken, and that those commitments permanently alter us. I could have chosen a piercing, a cutting, a tat, or a branding, but the image of the tattoos appeared to me during a sweatlodge, and the decision was made. ZWD

yourMissTress -> RE: Tattoos = Masochism (7/7/2006 1:25:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Noah Inspired by this week's thirteenth Overweight Subs thread I would like to ask if it is really true that any dominant who has more than one or two tattoos is really a masochist, and therefore a switch, and therefore not real and true and usually saddled with an addictive personality and probably having trouble with gender identification besides? Just curious. We can talk about piercing in a minute. I just wanted to get this straightened out first. I'm not a masochist by any stretch of the imagination. I have 3 tattoos and will be getting another before the end of summer. All of them hold a very deep meaning to me, which was a promise that I made to myself when I got the first one, nothing frivolous or "out of the books". I see my tattoos as a form of self expression, adornment, and decoration. I endure the pain of them as I endure any other pain that I have to as a mildly vain woman. Waxing, plucking, filing, and so forth are all painful things I have to go through to look and feel beautiful and sexy. A necessary means to an end, so to speak.

stardancer00 -> RE: Tattoos = Masochism (7/7/2006 1:32:33 PM)
"Ink is an expression of who we are and what we love, it is an etching on our outward being that reflects those things carved on our inner selves. We use it to commemorate events in our lives, the joy of life, the agony of loss, the bleeding of our hearts and the blinding love that inflames our souls." This is such a beautiful statement and true for me. i have large tattoos. i am a bisexual slave and masochist, but also have dominated women and can be sadist with them or swtch. i do not feel the tattoos have any relationship to my orientations at all. They do represent my spiritual understanding and are symbols of those energies as well. However, i did personally enjoy the pain, as i do enjoy pain of many kinds and in many situations. i feel this is different for everyone, and to generalize really misses the point. My tattoos, by the way, are about 20 years old now and vibrant. When done by a talented artist, and when one takes care of them, they do not fade.

MistressSassy66 -> RE: Tattoos = Masochism (7/7/2006 4:47:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stardancer00 "Ink is an expression of who we are and what we love, it is an etching on our outward being that reflects those things carved on our inner selves. We use it to commemorate events in our lives, the joy of life, the agony of loss, the bleeding of our hearts and the blinding love that inflames our souls." This is such a beautiful statement and true for me. i have large tattoos. i am a bisexual slave and masochist, but also have dominated women and can be sadist with them or swtch. i do not feel the tattoos have any relationship to my orientations at all. They do represent my spiritual understanding and are symbols of those energies as well. However, i did personally enjoy the pain, as i do enjoy pain of many kinds and in many situations. i feel this is different for everyone, and to generalize really misses the point. My tattoos, by the way, are about 20 years old now and vibrant. When done by a talented artist, and when one takes care of them, they do not fade. Exactly. I have to agree with the comment about the tat artist also,Mine arnt 20 years old,but taking care of them now is defintely worth it,especially when you factor in the money spent on them.

Lordandmaster -> RE: Tattoos = Masochism (7/7/2006 8:43:23 PM)
I'm dominant and don't have any tattoos, so OF COURSE it must be true. Next. quote: ORIGINAL: Noah Inspired by this week's thirteenth Overweight Subs thread I would like to ask if it is really true that any dominant who has more than one or two tattoos is really a masochist, and therefore a switch, and therefore not real and true and usually saddled with an addictive personality and probably having trouble with gender identification besides? Just curious. We can talk about piercing in a minute. I just wanted to get this straightened out first.

UtopianRanger -> RE: Tattoos = Masochism (7/7/2006 10:29:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kedikat Here's one to flame me for....... Not everyone!!! But I think a lot of people who get many tats and large numbers of piercings are buying a personality. It makes them special or interesting, without the effort of actually being it. More common lately of course. Of course there are many reasons. I don't make blanket statements. But a lot of people that seem to be the worst vacant losers, have tons of metal stuck in their faces, or lameass tats all over. Flame away. But please note I said NOT EVERYONE fits this statement of opinion. To admit....I have a partial, homemade, selfinflicted tat. Halfway through it I thought....what the hell?????? At 15 I could already think ahead a bit..... Yanno... I think there's some truth in your post. I embrace physical pain, but this body is clean and unblemished, without a single tat or piercing - And it's gonna stay that way. The pain from a needle bores the shit out of me. And I don't like anything on my body I can't get rid of in a few seconds. - R

Vancouver_cinful -> RE: Tattoos = Masochism (7/7/2006 10:52:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SusanofO I just got it. This is a thread against predjudice, isn't it? - Susan I wondered if anyone would catch that. LOL It's all about grand, over-generalized theories, that have little basis in reality. Thanks for the smile, Noah.

Noah -> RE: Tattoos = Masochism (7/8/2006 11:45:31 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Vancouver_cinful I wondered if anyone would catch that. LOL It's all about grand, over-generalized theories, that have little basis in reality. Thanks for the smile, Noah. You're welcome. Glad you enjoyed it.

Daddysredhead -> RE: Tattoos = Masochism (7/8/2006 12:02:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Vancouver_cinful quote: ORIGINAL: SusanofO I just got it. This is a thread against predjudice, isn't it? - Susan I wondered if anyone would catch that. LOL It's all about grand, over-generalized theories, that have little basis in reality. Thanks for the smile, Noah. Thanks for putting my thoughts into your words, Cin... [:)]

sothernnyte -> RE: Tattoos = Masochism (7/8/2006 2:05:26 PM)
while i am masochistic... that was not included in my reasons for my tats. i agree whole-heartedly with Susan, i got them because i wanted them, because they meant something to me, a reminder if you will. i haven't followed a fad since "Members Only" made coats back in the 80s and i was only 10-11 back then. the tats were for me, my memories,... the pain (which it didnt hurt) would just be gravy as they say. sincerely sothernnyte

twicehappy -> RE: Tattoos = Masochism (7/8/2006 5:39:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MstrssPassion This is so true. Please do keep in mind that tattoos are permanent, partners aren't. Not always true, not for me at least. I bore my first "property of" until he was killed in his chosen line of work, i bore my second for 24 years, 18 of them while my Master was living and 6 after his demise, i now bear a tattoo that matches my new owners own that forever binds them to each other. They have promised not to die before me, lol. My point is that i think long and hard before making the decision to be marked, but once i am it is forever.

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