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VW may have been ok with the union but obviously not all the workers were. It's just a shame that the union can't accept that and are whining for a new election.

Actually VW has said they will probably not expand in Chattanooga since the plant didn't unionize since the company board includes union reps who won't approve it.

Of course the union reps won't approve it. They would rather use it to force the union in a plant that already told them they didn't want it. They don't care about the workers who will be effected if new plants don't open. All they care about is getting a foot into the southern states. That's why they won't let the plants have the same workers council that they have in Germany, they don't care about workers, they care about collecting dues.

The worker's council rep on the company's board doesn't care about having workers councils? LOL.

Dom (cough) Ken,

Where in anything he just wrote, did he say such a thing?

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This plan is like putting a bandaid on an arterial bleed.

The affordable care act, as it stands, is the problem. It has cost people the coverage they want to keep, has not significantly lowered costs for lower income families to get insurance, even with the subsidies and pools.

And the public mandate is flat out stupid, because it is gonna punish the lower income brackets.

"Gee dear, what should we do, get medical coverage or pay the (insert bill here)?"

It is bad enough some people have to make a choice under the current system to either buy meds or buy food. And dont go hollering food stamps. I know of one couple who make too damn much to get food stamps and under their current insurance they only pay 15% of the prescription price. Except one medication for their son costs them 200 a month, and the child is on three more just as expensive.

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It simply amazes me that even today; all this talk about the cost of health care does not include anything actually regarding the cost of health care.
Instead of talking about how the insurance companies can make more money and take less risk, why not simply make it law that all health providers must make available their price lists. Try walking into a hospital or doctors office and asking them for their price list. This would open health care up to actual competition and lower costs. Let’s actually take a look at why the costs are so high. How does a hospital justify $17 for an aspirin, $12 for an oatmeal breakfast? All healthcare providers are for-profit companies. I find it laughable when I hear of someone "donating" to a hospital.
That’s like a gas station owner asking for donations so he can add a gas pump. LOL
The entire world has simply gone insane and common sense is the main casualty.

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VW may have been ok with the union but obviously not all the workers were. It's just a shame that the union can't accept that and are whining for a new election.

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

VW may have been ok with the union but obviously not all the workers were. It's just a shame that the union can't accept that and are whining for a new election.

Actually VW has said they will probably not expand in Chattanooga since the plant didn't unionize since the company board includes union reps who won't approve it.

Of course the union reps won't approve it. They would rather use it to force the union in a plant that already told them they didn't want it. They don't care about the workers who will be effected if new plants don't open. All they care about is getting a foot into the southern states. That's why they won't let the plants have the same workers council that they have in Germany, they don't care about workers, they care about collecting dues.

The worker's council rep on the company's board doesn't care about having workers councils? LOL.

Dom (cough) Ken,

Where in anything he just wrote, did he say such a thing?

Every single word. She didn't bother to understand that the union rep on the company board isn't a UAW rep but the German worker's council rep.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

VW may have been ok with the union but obviously not all the workers were. It's just a shame that the union can't accept that and are whining for a new election.

Actually VW has said they will probably not expand in Chattanooga since the plant didn't unionize since the company board includes union reps who won't approve it.

Of course the union reps won't approve it. They would rather use it to force the union in a plant that already told them they didn't want it. They don't care about the workers who will be effected if new plants don't open. All they care about is getting a foot into the southern states. That's why they won't let the plants have the same workers council that they have in Germany, they don't care about workers, they care about collecting dues.

The worker's council rep on the company's board doesn't care about having workers councils? LOL.

Dom (cough) Ken,

Where in anything he just wrote, did he say such a thing?

Every single word. She didn't bother to understand that the union rep on the company board isn't a UAW rep but the German worker's council rep.

Fascinating.

(I've read it now 7 times....and I don't find anything of the sort).

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

VW may have been ok with the union but obviously not all the workers were. It's just a shame that the union can't accept that and are whining for a new election.

Actually VW has said they will probably not expand in Chattanooga since the plant didn't unionize since the company board includes union reps who won't approve it.

Of course the union reps won't approve it. They would rather use it to force the union in a plant that already told them they didn't want it. They don't care about the workers who will be effected if new plants don't open. All they care about is getting a foot into the southern states. That's why they won't let the plants have the same workers council that they have in Germany, they don't care about workers, they care about collecting dues.

The worker's council rep on the company's board doesn't care about having workers councils? LOL.

Dom (cough) Ken,

Where in anything he just wrote, did he say such a thing?

Every single word. She didn't bother to understand that the union rep on the company board isn't a UAW rep but the German worker's council rep.

Fascinating.

(I've read it now 7 times....and I don't find anything of the sort).

Try again. All those bolded words refer to the worker's council reps on VW's board that she erroneously thought was UAW reps.

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

VW may have been ok with the union but obviously not all the workers were. It's just a shame that the union can't accept that and are whining for a new election.

Actually VW has said they will probably not expand in Chattanooga since the plant didn't unionize since the company board includes union reps who won't approve it.

Of course the union reps won't approve it. They would rather use it to force the union in a plant that already told them they didn't want it. They don't care about the workers who will be effected if new plants don't open. All they care about is getting a foot into the southern states. That's why they won't let the plants have the same workers council that they have in Germany, they don't care about workers, they care about collecting dues.

The worker's council rep on the company's board doesn't care about having workers councils? LOL.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

VW may have been ok with the union but obviously not all the workers were. It's just a shame that the union can't accept that and are whining for a new election.

Actually VW has said they will probably not expand in Chattanooga since the plant didn't unionize since the company board includes union reps who won't approve it.

Of course the union reps won't approve it. They would rather use it to force the union in a plant that already told them they didn't want it. They don't care about the workers who will be effected if new plants don't open. All they care about is getting a foot into the southern states. That's why they won't let the plants have the same workers council that they have in Germany, they don't care about workers, they care about collecting dues.

The worker's council rep on the company's board doesn't care about having workers councils? LOL.

Dom (cough) Ken,

Where in anything he just wrote, did he say such a thing?

Every single word. She didn't bother to understand that the union rep on the company board isn't a UAW rep but the German worker's council rep.

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Try again. All those bolded words refer to the worker's council reps on VW's board that she erroneously thought was UAW reps.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

VW may have been ok with the union but obviously not all the workers were. It's just a shame that the union can't accept that and are whining for a new election.

Actually VW has said they will probably not expand in Chattanooga since the plant didn't unionize since the company board includes union reps who won't approve it.

Of course the union reps won't approve it. They would rather use it to force the union in a plant that already told them they didn't want it. They don't care about the workers who will be effected if new plants don't open. All they care about is getting a foot into the southern states. That's why they won't let the plants have the same workers council that they have in Germany, they don't care about workers, they care about collecting dues.

The worker's council rep on the company's board doesn't care about having workers councils? LOL.

Dom (cough) Ken,

Where in anything he just wrote, did he say such a thing?

Every single word. She didn't bother to understand that the union rep on the company board isn't a UAW rep but the German worker's council rep.

You are correct. I didn't know that. I thought when you said "union rep" you meant union rep. Silly me. But now that it's cleared up, what I do know is the UAW doesn't want a workers council setup here. I also know that all they care about is collecting dues and could give a flying shit about the worker as long as he keeps that cash coming. I know they have outlived their usefulness and need to go the way of the dinosaur. I know that every vote they lose and every state that votes in right to work puts us one step closer to their end.

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It's kind of obvious to everyone except the dyed in the wool Democrats that the people of Tennessee just don't want the UAW. They object to the UAW trying to strong arm itself into the VW plant, and would like a workers council as long as it's NOT the UAW representing them on the council.

I bolded part of that so even the Democrat UAW supporters would understand what is going on in Tenn.

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I guess you just missed the Tennessee governor threatening to take back state incentives from Volkswagen if they unionized.....?


Oh that`s right....you only watch faux news.....you did miss that.....FYI, Volkswagen was ok with unionization....

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You are correct. I didn't know that. I thought when you said "union rep" you meant union rep. Silly me. But now that it's cleared up, what I do know is the UAW doesn't want a workers council setup here. I also know that all they care about is collecting dues and could give a flying shit about the worker as long as he keeps that cash coming. I know they have outlived their usefulness and need to go the way of the dinosaur. I know that every vote they lose and every state that votes in right to work puts us one step closer to their end.

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

You are correct. I didn't know that. I thought when you said "union rep" you meant union rep. Silly me. But now that it's cleared up, what I do know is the UAW doesn't want a workers council setup here. I also know that all they care about is collecting dues and could give a flying shit about the worker as long as he keeps that cash coming. I know they have outlived their usefulness and need to go the way of the dinosaur. I know that every vote they lose and every state that votes in right to work puts us one step closer to their end.

I don't know all the ins and outs of Tennessee labor laws, but what was reported on the news was that workers councils of the type they have in Germany are illegal there, and UAW is the closest equivalent, which is why VW invited UAW and asked it's workers to unionize.

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You are correct. I didn't know that. I thought when you said "union rep" you meant union rep. Silly me. But now that it's cleared up, what I do know is the UAW doesn't want a workers council setup here. I also know that all they care about is collecting dues and could give a flying shit about the worker as long as he keeps that cash coming. I know they have outlived their usefulness and need to go the way of the dinosaur. I know that every vote they lose and every state that votes in right to work puts us one step closer to their end.

I don't know all the ins and outs of Tennessee labor laws, but what was reported on the news was that workers councils of the type they have in Germany are illegal there, and UAW is the closest equivalent, which is why VW invited UAW and asked it's workers to unionize.