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DesideriScuri -> RE: Who drew this Red Line? (3/1/2014 10:08:33 AM)
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
nope... just that the other one had a more deserving target of derision.
I think you need to re read it...because I was bemoaning the fact that the other one had more dumb comments AND thankfully they closed the other thread.
PS the red line comment, was about the last time" a red line" was mentioned...and the shellacking taken over using such a term...I seem to remember certain posters here, thinking it was the scandal of the day.
I can dig out the comments if you like.
And yes, him saying it, and someone taking it as code, is important, being someone who loves semantics in everything else..I dont see why you should be upset that this one has to be spoken out loud.
Sorry, Lucy, but I think you missed the point of the OP.
The key was the bolded part, "President Barack Obama bluntly warned Russia on Friday that it will face international condemnation as well as unspecified "costs" for any military intervention in neighboring Ukraine. "
Last time, President Obama saidquote:
"We have communicated in no uncertain terms with every player in the region, that that's a red line for us, and that there would be enormous consequences if we start seeing movement on the chemical weapons front, or the use of chemical weapons. That would change my calculations significantly."
Then, he said, quote:
"I didn't set a red line. The world set a red line."
So, in saying "that's a red line for us," it's the world drawing the line.
Now ,he goes and says that Russia "will face international condemnation as well as unspecified 'costs'" for action in the Ukraine. So, Obama has communicated that there is a red line. Now, the question remains, who drew that line? Did Obama draw the line for the rest of the world, or has the world drawn the line and Obama just let Putin know about it?
Now, when chem weapons were used in Syria, Obama got his bluff called and backed off saying that it wasn't him that drew the line, but the international community that did. This time, he's already taken a step back from a leadership position by falling back on the international community right from the get go.
Make no mistake about it, Lucy, President Obama clearly stated that there is a red line over Russia's involvement in the Ukraine. Since Putin crossed it, we'll just have to see how Obama responds.
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