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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
No you are dodging the question, when you have turned on the light what would tell you it was reasonable
to take violent defensive action. Don't give me a mindless platitude tell me what criteria would allow you to shoot.

An unmistakable aggressive action that endangered me or another.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
No you are dodging the question, when you have turned on the light what would tell you it was reasonable
to take violent defensive action. Don't give me a mindless platitude tell me what criteria would allow you to shoot.

An unmistakable aggressive action that endangered me or another.

Be specific, I would say someone trying to pound you into the ground qualifies but you argued against that.
What do you consider unmistakable. I would say ignoring three warnings qualifies and you disagree.
So what short of giving them first strike counts, a notarized statement of hostile intent.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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Actually if you knew anything about tactical work in the dark you'd know that movement in the dark is movement and discerning in what direction it is going is very difficult.


Actually my night vision must be so much better than yours as to make you assertions seem absurd.
You must be virtually night blind if you think that.
And you are saying then that Hendrix would naturally seen an attack coming.

Wrong. Full night vision takes a long time to come up after being in light so this guy was likely operating mostly blind.

And no ones night vision is so good that they can defy the physical reality of how their eyes work.

Special forces operators train to work at night specifically because people who do not have vision enhancements and/or extensive training working at night are terrible at it. If you had any such training you'd know that.

So once again your opinion trumps what I have experienced.
Although your argument about adjusting to different light is the reason I would not blind myself by turning on the outside light
instead I turn off the inside light. That is part of the reason that I am not defying the laws of physics.
Last night I stepped out of my house and instantly found the one thing that didn't fit. I identified a cat hiding behind a bush so don't tell me what I can do.
I have never been anyplace other than a bar where it was dark enough to have those effects.
Even in the country there is some light, enough to work by.

You saw a shape. You could not have judged whether it was moving toward or away from you until it had moved a lot and if it was a danger that would have been too late. That is a fact. People are terrible in low light situations.

As the man who shot a 72 year old man with dementia proved.

But I was able to, sorry but you are wrong again. Maybe I just process information better.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
No you are dodging the question, when you have turned on the light what would tell you it was reasonable
to take violent defensive action. Don't give me a mindless platitude tell me what criteria would allow you to shoot.

An unmistakable aggressive action that endangered me or another.

Be specific, I would say someone trying to pound you into the ground qualifies but you argued against that.
What do you consider unmistakable. I would say ignoring three warnings qualifies and you disagree.
So what short of giving them first strike counts, a notarized statement of hostile intent.

Charging at me  or someone else with a weapon, pointing a gun at me or someone else.
Simply being present and not responding to a verbal statement is never sufficient cause to kill someone.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

Actually if you knew anything about tactical work in the dark you'd know that movement in the dark is movement and discerning in what direction it is going is very difficult.


Actually my night vision must be so much better than yours as to make you assertions seem absurd.
You must be virtually night blind if you think that.
And you are saying then that Hendrix would naturally seen an attack coming.

Wrong. Full night vision takes a long time to come up after being in light so this guy was likely operating mostly blind.

And no ones night vision is so good that they can defy the physical reality of how their eyes work.

Special forces operators train to work at night specifically because people who do not have vision enhancements and/or extensive training working at night are terrible at it. If you had any such training you'd know that.

So once again your opinion trumps what I have experienced.
Although your argument about adjusting to different light is the reason I would not blind myself by turning on the outside light
instead I turn off the inside light. That is part of the reason that I am not defying the laws of physics.
Last night I stepped out of my house and instantly found the one thing that didn't fit. I identified a cat hiding behind a bush so don't tell me what I can do.
I have never been anyplace other than a bar where it was dark enough to have those effects.
Even in the country there is some light, enough to work by.

You saw a shape. You could not have judged whether it was moving toward or away from you until it had moved a lot and if it was a danger that would have been too late. That is a fact. People are terrible in low light situations.

As the man who shot a 72 year old man with dementia proved.

But I was able to, sorry but you are wrong again. Maybe I just process information better.

No. You interpreted what you saw. You were not under stress and did not have to make any snap judgments. Now try and catch that cat in a hurry.

And I'll remind you again this is not just my opinion this is the opinion of every special forces operator on the planet.

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I may not be normal but I am the guy you want between you and danger.

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I may not be normal but I am the guy you want between you and danger.

While that guy you are talking to sounds like the perfect target for a sucker punch. If you do that first unmistakeable aggressive act the right way, it's all over except for digging through the pockets, and stealing the rings.

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No. You interpreted what you saw. You were not under stress and did not have to make any snap judgments. Now try and catch that cat in a hurry.

And I'll remind you again this is not just my opinion this is the opinion of every special forces operator on the planet.

I have been in half a dozen of those "stress" situations and have never resorted to a snap decision.
Not even when a fool made every mistake possible, creating a situation that even you with your oh no that can't really be
a gun and it must have been a car backfiring attitude would have believed you were about to die.
He was 1/2 second from the pearly gates when even in the midst of drawing my weapon I reevaluated.
He had by this time done enough stupid things that most people would have shot him and walked.
He was so dumb it was a virtual suicide.
I have faced down drug dealers, crack heads and one guy who made the mistake of trying to sneak up on me in the dark
Because he, like you assumed I couldn't do what I can do.
A woman threatening to kill a wedding party( who I faced down unarmed, she and the wedding party thought I was
) only made the wedding interesting for me, not stressful.
I may not be normal but I am the guy you want between you and danger.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
As with most of the anti self defense gang on here you ignore the fact that he ignored three warnings to stop advancing toward him with a weapon.
This and none of your distractions was the reason he was shot.

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These things usually are commonly known in civilised societies

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It doesn't work that way in this country, so get over it.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
So advancing on you with a weapon qualifies, particularly if you tell them not to.

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No. You interpreted what you saw. You were not under stress and did not have to make any snap judgments. Now try and catch that cat in a hurry.

And I'll remind you again this is not just my opinion this is the opinion of every special forces operator on the planet.

I have been in half a dozen of those "stress" situations and have never resorted to a snap decision.
Not even when a fool made every mistake possible, creating a situation that even you with your oh no that can't really be
a gun and it must have been a car backfiring attitude would have believed you were about to die.
He was 1/2 second from the pearly gates when even in the midst of drawing my weapon I reevaluated.
He had by this time done enough stupid things that most people would have shot him and walked.
He was so dumb it was a virtual suicide.
I have faced down drug dealers, crack heads and one guy who made the mistake of trying to sneak up on me in the dark
Because he, like you assumed I couldn't do what I can do.
A woman threatening to kill a wedding party( who I faced down unarmed, she and the wedding party thought I was
) only made the wedding interesting for me, not stressful.
I may not be normal but I am the guy you want between you and danger.

Sure you have.

Do you know how people who have actually been in combat know people others who have been in combat? They'll do pretty much anything to avoid ever being back there again. You don't therefore you have never actually been there.

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Because he didn't know if the man attempting to gain entry to his home was armed

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ORIGINAL: lady4dad

Alzheimer patiens are very often:
- disoriented about time of day and location where they are
- suffering from limitations in speech and understanding what is said

These things should be commonly known since the percentage of dementia and Alzheimer's disease is growing with increase of life expectancy

These things usually are commonly known in civilised societies