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Lucylastic -> Stop Being Poor (3/9/2014 8:00:39 AM)
Tired to find another specific link for this but you can go check it out at the Daily shows site for thursday nights programme. This bit however is just the interview Fox Business" commentator and NYSE Euronext Managing Director Todd Wilemon and Aasif Maldvi about "america has the greatest healthcare" meme http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/07/aasif-mandvi-third-world-healthcare_n_4919304.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular This is the canadian link in case anyone outside the US wants to see it http://www.thecomedynetwork.ca/Shows/TheDailyShow?videoPackage=14342 second ten minutes of the show I had a gander at the guy mentioned in the segment, regarding the "Remote Area Medicine" here are some pics of the filming from the clinic https://plus.google.com/photos/117820089608193813820/albums/5987513139067748753?banner=pwa and a list of their clinics.....in case anyone can use them. There was another one that AL madrigal did the other night that hit home too [image]local://upfiles/228382/9757010442AF4CE0A4F61B39C3291AA2.jpg[/image]

Yachtie -> RE: Stop Being Poor (3/9/2014 12:52:57 PM)
Why stop being poor when one can become poorer. A national union that represents 300,000 low-wage hospitality workers charges in a new report that Obamacare will slam wages, cut hours, limit access to health insurance and worsen the very “income equality” President Obama says he is campaigning to fix. Unite Here warned that due to Obamacare's much higher costs for health insurance than what union workers currently pay, the result will be a pay cut of up to $5 an hour. "If employers follow the incentives in the law, they will push families onto the exchanges to buy coverage. This will force low-wage service industry employees to spend $2.00, $3.00 or even $5.00 an hour of their pay to buy similar coverage," said the union in a new report. “Only in Washington could asking the bottom of the middle class to finance health care for the poorest families be seen as reducing inequality,” said the report from Unite Here. “Without smart fixes, the ACA threatens the middle class with higher premiums, loss of hours, and a shift to part-time work and less comprehensive coverage,” said the report, titled, “The Irony of Obamacare: Making Inequality Worse.”

Lucylastic -> RE: Stop Being Poor (3/9/2014 1:13:23 PM)
why dont you open another topic instead of attempting to derail this one, which is about the REALITY Of shitty healthcare RIGHT NOW BTW the ONLY place reporting this is Ralston and WE, well of course nutsacker sites UNite here has nothing on their website, the news sites carrying it, are simply the examiner. Oh and when you manage to find the link to the actual document, read it very very carefully because its NOT what you think at all, LOL

MercTech -> RE: Stop Being Poor (3/9/2014 1:18:56 PM)
I know how it affected me. The effect was that my health insurance went from $380 per month to over $1200 a month and the deductible went from $500 a year to $5000 a year. The Veterans Administration has required prior to treatment either proof of insurance or statements why you don't have insurance even for service connected disability.

MasterRobert007 -> RE: Stop Being Poor (3/9/2014 1:20:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic why dont you open another topic instead of attempting to derail this one, which is about the REALITY Of shitty healthcare RIGHT NOW My Mom's on welfare so our family is covered by the State of California Health Care system. It actually was pretty good until ObamaCare took place. Now they are cutting our services, for example, my sister isn't able to get her annual papsmear anymore. I think it's every other year. They've cut a lot of other services for the poor since ObamaCare took effect. I've heard that middle class America's health care plans have upped their rates. Everything is more costly with less services.

Yachtie -> RE: Stop Being Poor (3/9/2014 1:22:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic why dont you open another topic instead of attempting to derail this one, which is about the REALITY Of shitty healthcare RIGHT NOW The reality is that Obamacare is shitty healthcare, and that's right now. [sm=rofl.gif]

Lucylastic -> RE: Stop Being Poor (3/9/2014 1:23:53 PM)
as I said, why dont you open a topic on it

Yachtie -> RE: Stop Being Poor (3/9/2014 1:28:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic as I said, why dont you open a topic on it Why, you did.

Lucylastic -> RE: Stop Being Poor (3/9/2014 1:31:38 PM)
and one you cant even respond to, except to attempt a derail how sad, but expected, you cant even handle a rebuttal LOL

kalikshama -> RE: Stop Being Poor (3/9/2014 1:37:50 PM)
quote: The Veterans Administration has required prior to treatment either proof of insurance or statements why you don't have insurance even for service connected disability. Huh? The VA asks me if I have other insurance, I say No, and that's the end of it. If you have VA health benefits, why would you pay $380 per month for outside insurance? Wouldn't it be more cost effective to put that $4,560/year to pay out of pocket for things the VA does not cover?

MistressDarkArt -> RE: Stop Being Poor (3/9/2014 1:47:23 PM)
I am the 'lower-middle-class'. I am a CA state retiree (community college system) and purchase my insurance through them. Under Obama Care it's virtually the same as it was before, ~$400 with a $5000 deductible. My rate went down about a dollar per month. O-care has neither helped nor hindered my situation. Health care remains my single largest expense, hands down. I resent the hell out of it, and in my case, O-care matters not a whit. No relief here. S, who is also a CA state retiree (correctional officer, 'middle-middle-class') makes about $20k more than I do. His rate droped nearly 50% through his ex-employer, with significantly better coverage than I have and no deductibles. Makes no sense to me. Must be a union thing. Several of my lower-income self-employed friends have benefited greatly from O-care. Many could not afford insurance prior to O-care but fell through the cracks to qualify for Medi-Cal or Medicare. It's a godsend for them. That said, what I see in the pics from Lucy's link are smiling people who are finally receiving the care they need. The care providers are smiling too, so love it or hate it, obviously it's working for somebody. quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic I had a gander at the guy mentioned in the segment, regarding the "Remote Area Medicine" here are some pics of the filming from the clinic https://plus.google.com/photos/117820089608193813820/albums/5987513139067748753?banner=pwa It's not perfect, but it's a start.

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