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MsStrangely -> Honestly sick of Older Men's attitude on here. (3/11/2014 12:20:07 PM)

Just the pure disrespect I'm receiving from the over 50 men. I tell them I'm not interested and suddenly that makes me a " little Bitch Cunt". It is disgusting, I feel like I have to just block anyone I turn down. I've only been on the scene two and an half years, perhaps with time it is something I'll be use to...




Miyani -> RE: Honestly sick of Older Men's attitude on here. (3/11/2014 12:34:56 PM)

You can automatically route mail you don't want to get, to your Bulk folder, using Mail Controls. One of the possible settings is age. It might be easier to just never see it (or simply not respond when you get it). It's not limited to older men at all - though it does seem to be mostly (not exclusively) a male thing.




shiftyw -> RE: Honestly sick of Older Men's attitude on here. (3/11/2014 12:42:09 PM)

Men over 60 get sent straight to my bulk mail. I really suggest it.




PeonForHer -> RE: Honestly sick of Older Men's attitude on here. (3/11/2014 12:48:36 PM)

Whoa. Your profile reads like the archetypical fantasy of a certain type of malesub, Ms S. You may have to take the rough with the smooth with those who respond to it, whatever age restrictions you apply.




Rawni -> RE: Honestly sick of Older Men's attitude on here. (3/11/2014 12:55:53 PM)

In five days you have gotten so upset that you need a thread about your email? You already spoke of an answer... now others have given you another. You ought to be all fixed up... except for that five days of name calling rejected and your upset over them, in so short a time.

There is no site feature to help with that.




RedMagic1 -> RE: Honestly sick of Older Men's attitude on here. (3/11/2014 12:57:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MsStrangely
Just the pure disrespect I'm receiving from the over 50 men. I tell them I'm not interested and suddenly that makes me a " little Bitch Cunt". It is disgusting, I feel like I have to just block anyone I turn down. I've only been on the scene two and an half years, perhaps with time it is something I'll be use to...

Men and women who are 40+ and just now exploring kink <-- that is the group of people who do the dumbest shit. And I do mean, the dumbest. People give teens and young adults crap for thinking they will live forever and that they know everything, but most 18-21 year olds I know are happy to admit they don't really have shit figured out. But someone who's had a long term relationship and a couple kids, and who has memorized all the Anne Rice Beauty books -- well he/she is a World Class Expert on Life and BDSM. And don't you tell them any different.

So just delete, block, and rise above it. Grown men old enough to be your father will act less mature than a nine-year-old when you say No. And grown women with kids at home will shack up with misogynistic cheaters because He's My Master And He Loves Me.

Stay true to yourself, and stay smart.

Best of luck.[;)]




MisterP61 -> RE: Honestly sick of Older Men's attitude on here. (3/11/2014 1:27:30 PM)

I really do wish people would use the terms some or a lot. Not every male over 50 out there will do these things. I do not. If you don't want My type I just move along (not that I randomly email people I haven't had any interactions with, because I do not). Generalizations really irk Me. With that said I do wish you luck in finding what you are looking for.




fucktoyprincess -> RE: Honestly sick of Older Men's attitude on here. (3/11/2014 4:14:14 PM)


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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1
Grown men old enough to be your father will act less mature than a nine-year-old when you say No.

Stay true to yourself, and stay smart.

Best of luck.[;)]


I thought all men behave this way when faced with rejection. [:D]




LorraineCA -> RE: Honestly sick of Older Men's attitude on here. (3/11/2014 4:17:37 PM)

Women can be just as bad as men in this respect. Rejection, at any age, isn't easy for either gender.




kdsub -> RE: Honestly sick of Older Men's attitude on here. (3/11/2014 4:19:11 PM)

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Men and women who are 40+ and just now exploring kink <-- that is the group of people who do the dumbest shit. And I do mean, the dumbest


Hey!!!! If your not there yet you will be...maybe




FelineRanger -> RE: Honestly sick of Older Men's attitude on here. (3/11/2014 4:24:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MisterP61

I really do wish people would use the terms some or a lot. Not every male over 50 out there will do these things. I do not. If you don't want My type I just move along (not that I randomly email people I haven't had any interactions with, because I do not). Generalizations really irk Me. With that said I do wish you luck in finding what you are looking for.


Seconded. BTW, as a volunteer with my local play party, I've actually found that the readers of that godawful 50 Shades of Shit are infinitely less tolerable than anybody who read Anne Rice's work.




RedMagic1 -> RE: Honestly sick of Older Men's attitude on here. (3/11/2014 5:20:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: fucktoyprincess


quote:

ORIGINAL: RedMagic1
Grown men old enough to be your father will act less mature than a nine-year-old when you say No.

Stay true to yourself, and stay smart.

Best of luck.[;)]


I thought all men behave this way when faced with rejection. [:D]

My read on this is that you're kind of joking, but kind of serious. So, hey, I'll respond seriously.

That spiteful, "Fuck you, cunt," type of response -- or, my favorite, "Oh yeah? Well I'm not interested anyway because you're fat" -- is coming from a very weak place. The man needs recognition from, approval by, acceptance of women, in order to feel attractive or whole. But please understand: I'm not saying that a man should believe "it's her loss" if a woman decides not to date him. Because it might not be her loss! He might not be what she is looking for, sexually or romantically. That doesn't make him (or her) wrong, or bad. It just means they are not compatible.

The "trick" is to understand that you're valuable, whether or not a woman says yes. And the right kind of woman will say yes, because she is attracted to your sense of personal value.

Flip or choose the genders as appropriate for your personal dating scene.

I once posted here, "I've been rejected by a lot of women." A couple people then jumped on me, saying basically, "You sound like a virgin, with all those women rejecting you." (This was in the bad old Arpig days.) But what I was trying to say was: I ask out women who have a lot of options, and I'm not everyone's cup of tea. So a percentage of women have said yes, and a percentage have said no. This might be an aspect of the male side of dating that hetero women don't understand very well. Guys, especially "ambitious" guys, have to learn to be ok with hearing no an awful lot. It's a skill, and it takes time to toughen oneself up. So it doesn't surprise me that this is a tender spot for a lot of men, especially men who may not have a lot of recent dating experience (newly divorced 50-somethings for example).




DadD4SubFems -> RE: Honestly sick of Older Men's attitude on here. (3/11/2014 5:43:58 PM)

What ever happened to the idea of stating in your profile a desired age range for your respondents?? Along with whatever other standards and limits you wish to apply?? Want a Dom who's hung like a hamster? Say so. Want an oversexed 18 year old with an IQ of 68? Just say so. We're supposedly all adults on here, each searching for whatever combination of attributes, background, and knowledge that tweaks our gray matter. The most erogenous zone of the body lies between the ears... right??

I've had pertinent limits and desirable characteristics for potential partners stated in my profile all along. For me... an over 60 guy... I'm primarily not interested in anyone who finds my age a put-off, whether she is older or younger than I. I've met and enjoyably played with several different local subbies in their thirties and forties, since joining CM over a year ago. The former partner of mine that I mention in my profile is 37, very attractive, and just happens to feel more appreciated by a father figure who is three decades her senior and who really knows how to effectively deliver what she wants most. We got along famously for over a year, until she had to leave this area. None of these contacts I've mentioned were age-prejudiced and I can safely say that they all left with positive memories of their experiences with me. For those more recent contacts, it was just that we didn't click in a more lasting way. So, I'm still searching.

Unfortunately, many women on here just filter out emails based on whatever standards they're too uneasy to state outright. So, I end a friendly, respectful, introductory message and request that they read my profile and see if it works for them. No hustle. No pushiness. Days to weeks later, I eventually figure out I'm not of interest to them, or I'm being filtered. It would have been appreciated for their standards to be described in their profile. No one likes wasting their time trying to contact someone who could have saved him, or her, a lot of effort by just being honest about what they're seeking. Or what they're seeking to avoid.

If you try to email someone on here and they've blocked their receipt of your emails, you get a notification to that effect, at the time you attempt to send your message. Yet, you receive NO notification that your email has been blocked due to failing to satisfy some filtering limit(s). Frankly, I don't really care what those filter limits are, everyone is entitled to their own standards, but it would just be nice to know I'm being filtered, so that I won't waste time with creating and sending a follow-up note, based on the possibility that the original email was somehow misrouted or corrupted.

Consideration is a two-way street... irrespective of age, gender, or scene role. And just wait until YOU get older and find out how much bigotry there is against older people in our society, as compared to the kinds of views that exist in most other world cultures.

Del




jlf1961 -> RE: Honestly sick of Older Men's attitude on here. (3/11/2014 5:49:53 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

quote:

ORIGINAL: MsStrangely
Just the pure disrespect I'm receiving from the over 50 men. I tell them I'm not interested and suddenly that makes me a " little Bitch Cunt". It is disgusting, I feel like I have to just block anyone I turn down. I've only been on the scene two and an half years, perhaps with time it is something I'll be use to...

Men and women who are 40+ and just now exploring kink <-- that is the group of people who do the dumbest shit. And I do mean, the dumbest. People give teens and young adults crap for thinking they will live forever and that they know everything, but most 18-21 year olds I know are happy to admit they don't really have shit figured out. But someone who's had a long term relationship and a couple kids, and who has memorized all the Anne Rice Beauty books -- well he/she is a World Class Expert on Life and BDSM. And don't you tell them any different.

So just delete, block, and rise above it. Grown men old enough to be your father will act less mature than a nine-year-old when you say No. And grown women with kids at home will shack up with misogynistic cheaters because He's My Master And He Loves Me.

Stay true to yourself, and stay smart.

Best of luck.[;)]


Okay, so what was I doing with submissives in '85, imagining things? Hallucinating?

Oh, before the Anne Rice books, there was the "Story of O", the works of the Marque De Sade and a few others.

As for "less mature" than a 9 year old when you say no, that is a blanket statement that does not apply to every male over 45.

Sorry but the 20 and 30 somethings did not invent kink. Kink has been around for quite a long time.

Of course there are the messages from subs that feel that because you own two properties, financially stable (not wealthy) and dont believe in world travel, spending money like there is no tomorrow AND you are over 45 that you are a loser. Unsolicited to boot.

Then there are the 20 somethings that want older "successful" doms and masters with lots of disposable income, making a point that they want to be "spoiled."

If you dont want contacted by someone over fifty, set your filters. If you think the older generations on collarme have attitudes, read comments from subs who are accused of being fake by younger doms who say that cause they will not post nude photos or cam.




SweetAngel43211 -> RE: Honestly sick of Older Men's attitude on here. (3/11/2014 5:56:33 PM)

I have it stated in the first few sentences of my profile on the other side that I do not date younger men and have a 15 year age limit for older men... I do not filter because I enjoy making friends of pretty much anyone...

I still get emails from men who are well above my 15 year age limit writing to me wanting me to date them.. So I have to say that stating it in your profile doesn't always work...

Edited: I had the same sentence in there twice...




fucktoyprincess -> RE: Honestly sick of Older Men's attitude on here. (3/11/2014 5:58:19 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

My read on this is that you're kind of joking, but kind of serious. So, hey, I'll respond seriously.

That spiteful, "Fuck you, cunt," type of response -- or, my favorite, "Oh yeah? Well I'm not interested anyway because you're fat" -- is coming from a very weak place. The man needs recognition from, approval by, acceptance of women, in order to feel attractive or whole. But please understand: I'm not saying that a man should believe "it's her loss" if a woman decides not to date him. Because it might not be her loss! He might not be what she is looking for, sexually or romantically. That doesn't make him (or her) wrong, or bad. It just means they are not compatible.

The "trick" is to understand that you're valuable, whether or not a woman says yes. And the right kind of woman will say yes, because she is attracted to your sense of personal value.

Flip or choose the genders as appropriate for your personal dating scene.

I once posted here, "I've been rejected by a lot of women." A couple people then jumped on me, saying basically, "You sound like a virgin, with all those women rejecting you." (This was in the bad old Arpig days.) But what I was trying to say was: I ask out women who have a lot of options, and I'm not everyone's cup of tea. So a percentage of women have said yes, and a percentage have said no. This might be an aspect of the male side of dating that hetero women don't understand very well. Guys, especially "ambitious" guys, have to learn to be ok with hearing no an awful lot. It's a skill, and it takes time to toughen oneself up. So it doesn't surprise me that this is a tender spot for a lot of men, especially men who may not have a lot of recent dating experience (newly divorced 50-somethings for example).


It was mostly intended as a joke, but you've responded with some interesting things, so I will respond in kind!

Even though it is 2014, I generally am one who waits for people (I am bi) to approach me - whether in real life, or online. I might look at people's profiles, but I will rarely send an email or initiate conversation. I like to be pursued. So I fully understand the notion that I have put men (or women) in the position of "asking", and this necessarily means that they face either acceptance or rejection. And the online world being what it is, I will often just ignore mail from people who are not a match unless they have sent an extremely sincere and personalized note that begs a proper response. And the cyber world allows people to spew venom in someone's direction in a kind of way they would never do at a party/bar/gathering, etc.

But here is the thing. I've never had a woman (whether part of a couple or on her own) ever react badly to a rejection. Always polite. Always. And in all fairness, most men are also actually very polite. But then a few men really feel the need to tell you how inadequate you are for not wanting them.

I agree that that kind of reaction is coming from a weak place. And that these men just need to develop a healthier sense of self and a more honest assessment of the numbers i.e., most women will wait for a man to ask them, and therefore, they need to develop a bit of thick skin around hearing no. I think men need to have a "there's no harm in asking; what's the worst that can happen, she says no, and I move on". It's really not the end of the world as some men would have you believe.

I will say this, though. If I choose to respond to an email and the answer is "no", I am ALWAYS polite about it. Even if I am not at all attracted to the guy in any way, shape or form, I don't feel the need to say something nasty. I try to keep it generic and polite. I'm not interested in making someone else feel bad just because they don't fit my subjective criteria. But if men willfully ignore my stated criteria in my profile - I don't respond rudely - I just don't bother to respond. Most of those end up in my bulk mail folder anyway, so I rarely see them.

Anyway, I like your attitude of "I'm not everyone's cup of tea". That's a very healthy attitude and it speaks well of you. Someone will come along who likes Earl Grey and then you'll be steaming. Sorry could not help myself. [:D]




SlaveOh -> RE: Honestly sick of Older Men's attitude on here. (3/11/2014 6:00:31 PM)

Dear OP,

I hear ya! Despite filter settings, I still get men over 60, over 50 even, calling me a cunt, ect. And I'm nice and a whole lotta fun, too. No one deserves to be talked to like that.




shiftyw -> RE: Honestly sick of Older Men's attitude on here. (3/11/2014 6:01:05 PM)

Can we just say generalizations in general are horrible?
If I had a dollar for everytime I got talked down to here or on fetlife, or at an event- because of my young age- I'd be ready for retirement.
Lets all just get along.

And as for my post- if you're over 60, you're older than my dad- sorry- but I can't get past it, and that's a generalization I'm willing to make.




SlaveOh -> RE: Honestly sick of Older Men's attitude on here. (3/11/2014 6:04:18 PM)

And just to add on tip of that-- yeah, I generalize a bit. But so does everyone else. Age, marital status, height, weight-- we all have our likes and dislikes.




jlf1961 -> RE: Honestly sick of Older Men's attitude on here. (3/11/2014 6:13:23 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: SlaveOh

And just to add on tip of that-- yeah, I generalize a bit. But so does everyone else. Age, marital status, height, weight-- we all have our likes and dislikes.



Yep, I have been told that women who find me attractive and "the right one" are generally unstable, or scammers.




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