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joether -> RE: An gentler way.... bullshit (3/16/2014 2:08:39 PM)
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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
if you are going to give amnesty to illegal aliens, you might as well give it to drug dealers
There's a twisted bit of "logic."
[1] Entering the country is illegal, correct? Why reward someone for breaking the law?
[2] And yeah, the reason illegals are on welfare is because they get screwed in pay for their work.
[3] However, if they would have come here legally, then they have protection that would prevent that.
[4] This crap that they are coming here illegally for a better life so we should let them stay is for the birds. They rarely pay taxes, hence the federal revenues are impacted, they use public schools without paying any school taxes, but all of that is perfectly okay with people that dont want to send them back and keep em from coming back, right?
I have to agree with Musicmystery. Your logic is totally twisted....
[1]: No one is rewarding them for breaking a law. The McCain/Kennedy bill I mention states what the penalties for each tier. The last tier, the one were people have been in the country the longest have already paid a penalty far greater than you can imagine. The have lived very day in fear of being deported. An yet, what have they done since being here?
[2]: The reason illegal are on welfare is NOT because their pay is miserable. The immigration laws of this nation were created in a totally different era than the one the nation finds itself in today. They have to live 'under the radar' due to circumstances NOT because they want to. They take jobs that are off the record, because minimum wage jobs produce legal/financial documents.
But then, we have numerous citizens who are NOT illegal aliens, working at minimum wage and are on welfare. So while Wal-Mart and other businesses pay these people so little, they earn record net profits. As it concerns conservatives, Republicans and the Tea Party? Those citizens and illegal aliens are one and the same. They should have NOTHING. No access to anything, since according to the three groups I just mentioned, believe the two groups are 'taking fro the system'.
I really do not know why this is a tough concept for you to understand...
[3]: If the immigration system and laws....WORKED....it wouldn't be to much of a problem. But that takes an act by Congress. Further, as we learn which parts of the new law that do not work in a practical function, adding a bill to fix it would take this...ANOTHER...act of Congress. Our Congress right now cant even agree to let Representative 'X' have two assistants, let alone handle something the size of the immigration debate!
[4]: Rarely pay taxes? Given that their income sucks, its fair to say they would not normally pay much in taxes. Neither do financially poor or homeless US Citizens. Curious how you have no love for your fellow citizens in dire financial straits either. Both grounds make up for their financial insignificance in other ways. None of those seem to be ones your aware or informed on. An as I said above, there is no 'illegal discount' in the manner conservative talk radio shows claim there to be. ANYONE that buys gas for their vehicle in America from a commercial property....PAYS....TAXES. Here is a helpful guide on gas taxes in the USA.
How about state taxes on groceries? I guess according to your 'well informed status', illegal aliens do not have to pay, right? How about sales tax at the local and state levels? I guess they don't pay local or state taxes on anything they buy, right? Since they have that 'illegal alien discount', right?
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