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AthenaSurrenders -> RE: Drowning in clutter (3/17/2014 7:08:32 AM)

Ah ok thank you.

Re house proofing children - I do as a general rule agree with you on that and for the most part we don't keep things away from her. Believe me, I have tried with the books and they're just too much fun to pull down all over the floor. I'm all for teaching them appropriate behaviour but I also try to pick my battles and this is one that can wait a little longer. Books all over the floor eight times a day was getting old, and I don't want to be hovering over her for fear she'll damage them (some I will sacrifice, but some are really precious to my husband).

I realise that might sound like I'm just being a lazy parent, but I've taught her not to touch the fireplace and the TV, she is expected to tidy up her playthings and clear her own plates, so we are working on taking care of property in other areas.




ExiledTyrant -> RE: Drowning in clutter (3/17/2014 7:10:37 AM)

Perhaps you should try piling all the books in the floor and rope her into a game of "Put the books away".

Jus sayin
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Blonderfluff -> RE: Drowning in clutter (3/17/2014 7:11:45 AM)

Plus. If I remember correctly, you are expecting? Your not lazy...you are surviving!




AthenaSurrenders -> RE: Drowning in clutter (3/17/2014 7:22:09 AM)

I am expecting. But don't let that fool you, I am also very lazy.[:D]




theshytype -> RE: Drowning in clutter (3/17/2014 7:23:37 AM)

I LOVE Ikea. I have a few of those bookcases myself. Ikea is a great place for storage solutions.
Another one of my favorite items from there is a shoe organizer, which has four pull out units, that is thin enough to go in a hallway. We use it for shoes, hats and gloves, and some papers. Keeps everything hidden and out of the way.

As far as not toddler-proofing the house, I'm for and against that statement.
I fully believe in teaching a child boundaries and the word no. Unfortunately, I also know that it takes just a few seconds with a child and a book to have a few pages ripped out. I keep my toddler's books in a seperate bookcase, so she can identify her books easier. In my own case, books I won't miss terribly if ruined are on the lower shelves. I have some I would be devestated if ruined and would rather not take the chance. The same goes with anything else in the house. Items that wouldn't be missed are well within her reach.




TieMeInKnottss -> RE: Drowning in clutter (3/17/2014 7:25:31 AM)

Oh wow!! I think. I am in love!!!




ExiledTyrant -> RE: Drowning in clutter (3/17/2014 7:27:09 AM)


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ORIGINAL: TieMeInKnottss

Oh wow!! I think. I am in love!!!


AAANNNNNNNDDDDD now, your e-pregnant!

Here's tha thang, you have it, I raise it.

I HAZ SPOKEN
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lovethyself -> RE: Drowning in clutter (3/17/2014 7:27:27 AM)

FR

Everyone's added some great ideas. I just want to caution, if you're only loading the top half of your bookshelves with books, and leaving the bottoms empty, or with lightweight items only, make certain your shelves are securely attached to the walls. The taller, narrow style bookshelves become extremely unstable when they're top heavy, and can come crashing over if someone (like a todler) starts fiddling around at the bottom. I've had one fall on me in a store (paperwork was stored out of the way, with packaged dress shirts on the lower shelves).




ExiledTyrant -> RE: Drowning in clutter (3/17/2014 7:28:41 AM)


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ORIGINAL: lovethyself

FR

Everyone's added some great ideas. I just want to caution, if you're only loading the top half of your bookshelves with books, and leaving the bottoms empty, or with lightweight items only, make certain your shelves are securely attached to the walls. The taller, narrow style bookshelves become extremely unstable when they're top heavy, and can come crashing over if someone (like a todler) starts fiddling around at the bottom. I've had one fall on me in a store (paperwork was stored out of the way, with packaged dress shirts on the lower shelves).


A site full of Sadists and masochists and you throw out logic, WTF is up with that?

Jus wunderun
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AthenaSurrenders -> RE: Drowning in clutter (3/17/2014 7:31:46 AM)

Yikes, I hope you weren't hurt!




lovethyself -> RE: Drowning in clutter (3/17/2014 7:49:08 AM)

Actually I was, but not permanently. It was in the back room of a store I worked in at the time. I was more injured by slipping in the puddle of cleaning fluid that spilled in the process, but I definitely learned my lesson. Unsecured top heavy furniture is hazardous to my health. [:'(]




LadyConstanze -> RE: Drowning in clutter (3/17/2014 8:56:03 AM)


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ORIGINAL: AthenaSurrenders

Wow, I wasn't expecting so many replies this soon. Apparently I'm not the only one bothered by this.

Thanks for all the tips. Quite a few of these things we've already done - storage boxes in the bookcases for toys, books stacked up in the spare room, footstools which are actually storage, containers under the beds.

I will have to give some serious thought to what other storage furniture we can bring in. None of the rooms have a lot of space for extra furniture - two of the four bedrooms won't fit a single bed and a wardrobe in, they're too small. It's clear we do need a total re-think about what we do and don't keep. Storage locker is a possibility, there is a place pretty close to us, it's just a case of scraping together the funds.

Theshytype mentioned fittings inside the kitchen cupboard doors which I am going to look into right away - seems like it would be very useful for things like spices which take up a lot of real estate. Unfortunately hanging things from the kitchen ceiling isn't an option because the ceilings are too low here - my husband would bang his head. Our old house would've been perfect for that.


I think it's a typical British problem. We live in a converted mews house (the old space where the carriage was is now a garage which we use for storage) but when the place was modernized, they opened it up, looks a lot more airy with a mezzanine floor, but again, that means we don't have an attic where to store stuff properly...

Our biggest problem is that whoever designed the bathroom really didn't think about storage space or that women might have makeup or need more than a toothbrush, add to that it being an old house where the measurements aren't standard, so most of the storage spaces are things I had to build myself (luckily I'm fond of doing woodwork) what works really well is utilizing spaces behind doors and such with shelves that are shallow and not too deep, and basically just fitting it in. Even if it is just spices, it gives you more room in the cupboards. I made shelves for the kitchen and fitted a rail underneath one of them, with hooks you can hang pans from it, which does help a lot as they tend to take up massive space in cupboards and I'm not too fussed by seeing my pans and woks hanging there.

Books I tend to recycle a lot, once I read them, I have to be absolutely sure that I want to read them again, or else they go to a charity shop or the pub who has the book exchange (people put their old books on the shelves, others can browse, take them home for a read and then bring them back, a bit like a little library without the library card)...

The house is fairly big and the rooms are generously sized (apart from the blasted bathroom, even cleaning it is a major hassle as I bump into stuff all the time), but again, no real storage space like larders or cupboards under the stairs because it's all pretty much open plan... I just can't figure out how other people in the street manage to live with several children.

Seriously, have a look behind doors, a lot of the doors in UK houses have a bit of space behind them, it's ideal to fit in shelves that are only a few inches deep and you'd be amazed what you can store away there, the local timber supply, an electric screwdriver, a few wall brackets and you're in business. Just go to the local IKEA store for ideas, then make the kind of stuff yourself and according to the space you have available. They also have brilliant white boxes from fabric that you can fit into shelves, still keeps it airy and light (especially if you use light wood for the frames) and you can store away tons of kiddie furniture.

One thing I did for one of the bedrooms (we use it as a guest room) is basically build something like a seat that fits under the window, only it's a box (make a pillow that fits the size) and you got a seat and a storage area, might be ideal for the kid's room too.




kalikshama -> RE: Drowning in clutter (3/17/2014 9:07:47 AM)

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This may sound weird, but I store my iron pots and skillets in the oven, which freed up a lot of counter space.


Not odd at all; that's where my cast iron goes as well. My stainless pans live on top of the frig. If I had higher ceilings, I'd hang them.




Exidor -> RE: Drowning in clutter (3/17/2014 10:34:34 AM)

Bookshelves: would it be possible to add some doors? A sheet of white melamine board shouldn't be too expensive at the home center/lumberyard; most of them will also cut it for a small fee. Attach to the shelves with small hinges, add whatever latch you prefer, and then the children can write on the doors with a dry-erase marker for entertainment. Or put some stick-on cork tiles, or posters, or whatever.

Plastic bins: useful ONLY if you know what's in them, and can get to them. Even brick-and-board shelving is better than just stacking them up. Write their contents on pieces of masking tape in BIG LETTERS.

Under the bed, under chairs, the couch... flat plastic "sweater boxes" are a usefel shape.

In Germany, large shelving/cabinet units called schranks(sp?) are popular. But they're large and heavy. Google around for some pictures to get an idea.

A coffee table can be replaced with a storage chest. End tables can be replaced by two-drawer filing cabinets (often available used).

Sometimes, a Rent-A-Closet is the only answer...




angelikaJ -> RE: Drowning in clutter (3/17/2014 11:41:32 AM)

I have a free membership with zulily.
There is a UK version.

Fairly often they will feature solutions for clutter and organisation.

You might find some reasonably priced options there.




UllrsIshtar -> RE: Drowning in clutter (3/17/2014 12:19:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: AthenaSurrenders

I realise that might sound like I'm just being a lazy parent,


Nah not at all, like you said: pick your battles.




Rawni -> RE: Drowning in clutter (3/17/2014 1:20:29 PM)

There are wire racks that will fit over a door that you can store things on neatly. Then when my kids were little we got these net like things that hung from hooks off walls or a corner. Great for lighter toys, pillows, in the shower if you can find a small one. If there is a wall that isn't close to a walkway, even if ceilings are low, you can put shelves for books, ball caps, whatever on wood with the proper support.

Take a look at tiny houses. Where people have a few hundred feet to live in and sometimes you can get ideas from them.

I know tight spaces. I have my huge office, which takes up seven feet in length because of my chair, my bedroom and part of my kitchen in a ten x nine room. Luckily I no longer have to child proof.

Good luck!




jlf1961 -> RE: Drowning in clutter (3/17/2014 1:33:06 PM)

You know Athena, you could solve all your problems with a simple but very effective solution.

First, you contact the interior designer for the firm that builds the tardis, and request then to place a new dimension with more space inside your present home. Now of course this means that you can have an indoor pool, bowling alley and a baseball field.




PyrotheClown -> RE: Drowning in clutter (3/17/2014 1:37:40 PM)

I you given any thought to BURNING EVERYTHING,hmmm???




hlen5 -> RE: Drowning in clutter (3/17/2014 1:40:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PyrotheClown

I you given any thought to BURNING EVERYTHING,hmmm???



You Gordian knot-cutter, you!!




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