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knees2you -> Atlantis: fact or Fiction? (7/7/2006 11:35:21 PM)
I Just watched and episode on Atlantis and I must say It looks as though people are close to possibly finding it? From what I saw, it looked as though Atlantis people where very Dominate and Smart.[:)] Where they Aliens if they Existed? Even Adolph Hitler thought that they Existed. Hmmm One group of people think that it is off of the coast where Pompei was. Ant,[;)]

Kedikat -> RE: Atlantis: fact or Fiction? (7/8/2006 12:42:10 AM)
Wow!!! If Hitler thought it was a good idea, how could it be wrong?

Kedikat -> RE: Atlantis: fact or Fiction? (7/8/2006 12:48:06 AM)
Actually there are some sunken cities. But the overhyped Atlantis level of the concept is null. Aliens? I find that all this hype about aliens being responsible for all the great things that human beings actually accomplished seems to be just saying we are too stupid to do it ourselves. Read a combination of social and scientific history and you will find we matched our ability to create these things at the time. History very often is recorded in the social/war/empire aspects. Science and technology in a chronological order being left out entirely. We discovered these things and used them to build and do the things in a logical timely manner through history. A few folks take advantage of the average persons ignorance of history and science to sell some lame books.

Estring -> RE: Atlantis: fact or Fiction? (7/8/2006 12:51:24 AM)
I think Atlantis is under The Bermuda Triangle. That is why we can't find it. Every time someone goes to look for it, they never return. Or do they?[8\|]

Kedikat -> RE: Atlantis: fact or Fiction? (7/8/2006 12:56:27 AM)
I want to discover Alanis...in a theatre....

SirKenin -> RE: Atlantis: fact or Fiction? (7/8/2006 4:01:29 AM)
I have long since come to realize that anything is possible and as such keep an open mind about anything until it is proven otherwise.

NakedOnMyChain -> RE: Atlantis: fact or Fiction? (7/8/2006 5:02:47 AM)
Yeah, I believe Atlantis existed in some form or another. I believe all of the truly lasting myths have some root in fact. However, how twisted the stories have become in the retelling is entirely another matter.

JohnWarren -> RE: Atlantis: fact or Fiction? (7/8/2006 5:04:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: knees2you I Just watched and episode on Atlantis and I must say It looks as though people are close to possibly finding it? From what I saw, it looked as though Atlantis people where very Dominate and Smart.[:)] Where they Aliens if they Existed? Even Adolph Hitler thought that they Existed. Hmmm One group of people think that it is off of the coast where Pompei was. Ant,[;)] That was the special on the Science Fiction Channel? I get a kick out of people thinking that Atlantis being "advanced" means flying saucer stuff. That reference was written by someone in a Bronze Age culture. To him, "advanced" meant smelting iron.

meatcleaver -> RE: Atlantis: fact or Fiction? (7/8/2006 5:49:58 AM)
This is a good candidate for Atlantis but who really knows? http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/2001/helike.shtml

PersonProperty -> RE: Atlantis: fact or Fiction? (7/8/2006 6:02:01 AM)
The most recent program that I saw on satelite TV earlier this year, places Atlantis has being a sunken island off the coast of modern day greece. I suspect,however,that it is purely myth,just like the greek and roman gods are myth. Just like King Arthur and the knights of the round table, and robin hood are myths.

PersonProperty -> RE: Atlantis: fact or Fiction? (7/8/2006 6:10:00 AM)
Way back in the late 1980s, The mystery of the Burmuda triangle and 5 other similier locations was solved. When the earths crust moves under the sea,it releases methan gas,this is a very light gas,it creats a whirlpool effect on the sea surface and also travels to a distance of thousands of feet. Any Vessal or aircraft in the immiediate vicinity is then sucked down,the crust eventually closes and the vessels/aircraft never seen again. Apparently this was witnessed using experiments during a filming of the caribbean portion of the american techtonic plate opening at that point.

JohnWarren -> RE: Atlantis: fact or Fiction? (7/8/2006 9:08:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PersonProperty Way back in the late 1980s, The mystery of the Burmuda triangle and 5 other similier locations was solved. When the earths crust moves under the sea,it releases methan gas,this is a very light gas,it creats a whirlpool effect on the sea surface and also travels to a distance of thousands of feet. Any Vessal or aircraft in the immiediate vicinity is then sucked down,the crust eventually closes and the vessels/aircraft never seen again. Apparently this was witnessed using experiments during a filming of the caribbean portion of the american techtonic plate opening at that point. Are you talking about methane clathrate? It might create surface and subsurface disturbances but since methane is quite a bit heavier than air, it would affect aircraft.

NakisisaX -> RE: Atlantis: fact or Fiction? (7/16/2006 6:01:11 AM)
was it homer that saw its so-called "destruction"? i always thought it was funny how he witnessed that and never gave a location.

Dtesmoac -> RE: Atlantis: fact or Fiction? (7/16/2006 7:55:30 AM)
All myths have some basis in fact...................some are just followed by more than others ..................? Are all fiction stories written today based on fact..................or are some just stories..................? Two things to ponder perhaps. What happened to the theory of the big global civilisation before the retreat of the last Ice Age interstadial? The theory claimed to link sites in Eygpt, South America and Japan. The retreat of the Ice in the last interstadial resulted in most of the then coastal areas flooding and so explaining the large number of possible (but not proven) man made structures on the floors of many shallow seas.

Termyn8or -> RE: Atlantis: fact or Fiction? (7/16/2006 8:37:18 AM)
At the moment I'll set aside the hypothesis that it was off the coast of Greece. A few years ago I watched a quite interesting TV show in which they put forth the theory that every 15,000 years or so the Earth's crust shifts. On top of liquid the ice mass at the poles causes a centrifugal, or centripetal force which causes this, then the process starts over, with the map of the world basically set sideways. I am not putting this forth as my own theory, but I am saying that I think it is possible. Among a bunch of tertiary evidence they have two solid pieces of evidence: 1. As early as the 1500s they had an accurate map of Antarctica's land mass. It's accuracy has been proven by modern methods, sonar etc., but when the map was drawn no such tools existed. It was said that even in that century the origin of the map was unknown, and it was said to be very old. Maps were mainly made for mariners, so even if some genius did find a way to map the land under the ice, why bother ? You can no more sail through ice than you can land. 2. Lodestones. Generally when they are formed they take on the magnetic field of the Earth. They have however found lodestones with a different magnetic orientation. How else is this possible ? The show was an hour I believe and they went on about how many of history's mysteries are explainable with their theory. They did make alot of sense, but the two pieces of evidence cited above are what convinced me of the possibility. I said of the possibility, I am not convinced it is true and I don't think there will ever be enough evidence found in my lifetime to really prove it. I think is it possible, and maybe even likely, but we can't be sure. In the absence of friction, once the movement starts there is nothing stopping the crust from rotating a full 90 degrees, Which means that Antarctica could have been at the equator at one time. I am sure such a thing does not happen overnight, but the fact that there is a discrepancy between true and magnetic north could indicate that the process has already started. That is, if the theory is true. It certainly gave me something to ponder. T

Lashra -> RE: Atlantis: fact or Fiction? (7/16/2006 9:07:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NakedOnMyChain Yeah, I believe Atlantis existed in some form or another. I believe all of the truly lasting myths have some root in fact. However, how twisted the stories have become in the retelling is entirely another matter. Thats exactly how I feel alot of stories (particulary religious ones and no I'm not starting a religious debate) have been twisted and changed over the centuries. One would be hard pressed to be able to present the hard absolute fact. Afterall who here witnessed what supposedly happened? ~Lashra

windchymes -> RE: Atlantis: fact or Fiction? (7/16/2006 1:53:18 PM)
I believe there could have been an ancient country or society called Atlantis that was obliterated or covered by some type of geological catastrophe. But I think myth and legend has built it into something of fantasmagorical proportions, like The Land of Oz.

Estring -> RE: Atlantis: fact or Fiction? (7/16/2006 3:29:10 PM)
I think Atlantis is both fact and fiction. Yes, Atlantis existed, but no it wasn't a great place to live. It was filthy.

IronBear -> RE: Atlantis: fact or Fiction? (7/16/2006 4:13:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NakedOnMyChain Yeah, I believe Atlantis existed in some form or another. I believe all of the truly lasting myths have some root in fact. However, how twisted the stories have become in the retelling is entirely another matter. This I have to agree with....

Thanatosian -> RE: Atlantis: fact or Fiction? (7/17/2006 11:22:14 AM)
Not that many years ago I watched a show on tv where they made a pretty good case for Cuba being the remnants of sunken Atlantis - the highland portions of it to be precise, everything else was 'under the sea'

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