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Another day, another outrage - 3/24/2014 8:00:44 AM   
truckinslave


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Status: offline 		It is not just American culture that is coarsening.

Channel 4... BBC?


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RE: Another day, another outrage - 3/24/2014 8:02:42 AM   
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RE: Another day, another outrage - 3/24/2014 8:20:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		LOL.  The Telly.   Uh, that happens all over (and in the United States) arms, legs, and other medical wastes being incinerated and the heat reclaimed.   Hysteria looking for delerium.

'Course we won't get into cremations of other types.

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RE: Another day, another outrage - 3/24/2014 8:27:25 AM   
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It is not just American culture that is coarsening.

Channel 4... BBC?


From the Telegraph? That's like citing the supermarket tabloids.

Odd the BBC website doesn't mention it at all.

Don't ya think?

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RE: Another day, another outrage - 3/24/2014 8:41:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm not at all surprised by this. Nor am I outraged.

What better way to dispose of bodies and other medical waste??
It eradicates disease and infections as well as reducing the physical bulk.
It seems intuitively sensible to me to reclaim heat otherwise lost and would cost more if not reclaimed.

I'm not so sentimental that I would want to keep any foetal remains from an abortive pregnancy.
I also don't believe in burials where the body is going to pollute the ground for many many years.
And if cremated in a crematorium, that heat is recycled to keep the crematorial building warm.
I don't see that it is any more of an outrage to help keep a hospital building warm.


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RE: Another day, another outrage - 3/24/2014 8:45:22 AM   
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RE: Another day, another outrage - 3/24/2014 2:32:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: truckinslave
It is not just American culture that is coarsening.
Channel 4... BBC?

From the Telegraph? That's like citing the supermarket tabloids.
Odd the BBC website doesn't mention it at all.
Don't ya think?


Very odd. Well, except for...




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RE: Another day, another outrage - 3/24/2014 3:19:11 PM   
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Well, yeah, but some people just gotta be outraged over something. Kind'a pathetic, really.


Absolutely. Come to think of it, with cold Winters like we've had, aborted fetuses would probably make good firewood if you could dry them out a little first. I mean, let's be practical, right? What's all the whining about?

K.


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RE: Another day, another outrage - 3/24/2014 3:23:21 PM   
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RE: Another day, another outrage - 3/24/2014 3:25:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		Soldiers routinely depersonalize/dehumanize the enemy as a practical way to endure the horror...

It's not really surprising people in the abortion industry, and their supporters, need to do something analogous.

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RE: Another day, another outrage - 3/24/2014 3:28:50 PM   
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RE: Another day, another outrage - 3/24/2014 4:58:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ok, so they reclaim the waste heat from the medical waste incinerator to help heat the hospital. Sounds to me like a horrendous attempt to sensationalize something to sell papers.

Now, in the U.S. the medical waste is drummed up and shipped to a bio-hazard processing facility rather than having bio-hazard burners at individual hospitals. The change in the U.S. happened in the 1970s with public outrage that they were burning "toxic bacterial cultures" at neighborhood clinics so the FDA and EPA created new rules on how biological hazards were to be treated. That was also fueled by the fact that many hospitals were not using furnaces that burned at a hot enough temperature to kill all the toxic critters in there.

The bulk of what is disposed of are bacteriological petri dishes from hospital labs and bloody gauze from emergency rooms and operating theaters. Yes, there may be the occasional pieces and parts of human bodies in that waste.

How would you safely dispose of hazardous biological waste?

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RE: Another day, another outrage - 3/24/2014 7:43:44 PM   
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Ok, so they reclaim the waste heat from the medical waste incinerator to help heat the hospital. Sounds to me like a horrendous attempt to sensationalize something to sell papers.

Now, in the U.S. the medical waste is drummed up and shipped to a bio-hazard processing facility rather than having bio-hazard burners at individual hospitals. The change in the U.S. happened in the 1970s with public outrage that they were burning "toxic bacterial cultures" at neighborhood clinics so the FDA and EPA created new rules on how biological hazards were to be treated. That was also fueled by the fact that many hospitals were not using furnaces that burned at a hot enough temperature to kill all the toxic critters in there.

The bulk of what is disposed of are bacteriological petri dishes from hospital labs and bloody gauze from emergency rooms and operating theaters. Yes, there may be the occasional pieces and parts of human bodies in that waste.

How would you safely dispose of hazardous biological waste?


thats not the whole truth. Many locations prohibited any incinerators, or made the prohibitive.

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RE: Another day, another outrage - 3/24/2014 8:53:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Kirata


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ORIGINAL: DaNewAgeViking

Well, yeah, but some people just gotta be outraged over something. Kind'a pathetic, really.


Absolutely. Come to think of it, with cold Winters like we've had, aborted fetuses would probably make good firewood if you could dry them out a little first. I mean, let's be practical, right? What's all the whining about?

K.




Better yet......perhaps the "anti-abortionist" can eat the tissues, in protest.......That`ll be the logical conclusion to this pseudo-concern....

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RE: Another day, another outrage - 3/24/2014 10:20:05 PM   
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perhaps the "anti-abortionist" can eat the tissues, in protest.......That`ll be the logical conclusion to this pseudo-concern....

Well firstly, I think it would be in the public interest for you to inform NHS and the health minister that the matter is of no concern, that it is purely a "pseudo-concern" of no consequence, and that everybody should just go home. They appear to be taking a mistaken view of it...

Hospitals should cremate or bury aborted foetuses rather than incinerating them, the medical director of the NHS in England says... Health minister Dr Dan Poulter said this practice was "totally unacceptable". ~BBC Health

And then secondly, of course, familiarize yourself with what the word "logical" means.

K.


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