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RE: hetro male slaves - 3/25/2014 2:15:21 PM

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Hah. It's called a prostate.

Or should we tell all the male subs who like their women to use strap-ons that they're wrong?

Jeez.

If they like things shoved up their ass, they aren't likely to be dead "straight" are they??
Straight men like fucking women. Period.
I don't know of, nor ever met, any really "straight" men that like anyone near their asses, not even a nice busty female nurse/doctor.

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RE: hetro male slaves - 3/25/2014 2:17:24 PM

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Perhaps we should tell all the women who didn't enjoy being raped that it doesn't matter what their preference is, there is something in their vagina so they should be loving it...

So if a straight man chooses to try sex with another man, it's rape?

Rape is about consent, and the lack of enjoyment due to the lack of consent. That's not a fair comparison.

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RE: hetro male slaves - 3/25/2014 2:17:44 PM

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Men get physical enjoyment from receiving anal sex. Any object hitting their prostate will feel good, as much as that hurts your masculinity to think about.

If I hit a straight guys prostate with any object, he's get an enjoyable sensation. Would he be attracted to me? No. And he'd probably hate the fact it felt good as it would be humiliating. But it would be an enjoyable sensation.

You are making a sweeping statement that I don't agree with.
I do *NOT* enjoy my prostate being played with!!
And no, I don't agree that it feels good either.

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RE: hetro male slaves - 3/25/2014 2:20:21 PM

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So if a straight man chooses to try sex with another man, it's rape?

Straight men wouldn't do that.
That's the definition of a "straight" man - absolutely no sex or sexual play with other men.

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Rape is about consent, and the lack of enjoyment due to the lack of consent. That's not a fair comparison.

Who said anything about rape??
Any unwanted sexual insertion is rape, whether male or female.

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RE: hetro male slaves - 3/25/2014 2:20:27 PM

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Hah. It's called a prostate.

Or should we tell all the male subs who like their women to use strap-ons that they're wrong?

Jeez.

If they like things shoved up their ass, they aren't likely to be dead "straight" are they??
Straight men like fucking women. Period.
I don't know of, nor ever met, any really "straight" men that like anyone near their asses, not even a nice busty female nurse/doctor.

I'm sorry it hurts your masculinity and heterosexuality to view hard truth as it is.

A lot of straight men, whether into BDSM or not, like their women to play with their prostates with a finger. And by a lot, I mean a LOT.

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RE: hetro male slaves - 3/25/2014 2:22:04 PM

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So if a straight man chooses to try sex with another man, it's rape?

Straight men wouldn't do that.
That's the definition of a "straight" man - absolutely no sex or sexual play with other men.

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Rape is about consent, and the lack of enjoyment due to the lack of consent. That's not a fair comparison.

Who said anything about rape??
Any unwanted sexual insertion is rape, whether male or female.

1. No, the definition of a gay man is attraction to that gender, not choices to do something with someone else.

2. Aries mentioned rape.

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RE: hetro male slaves - 3/25/2014 2:22:19 PM

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Hah. It's called a prostate.

Or should we tell all the male subs who like their women to use strap-ons that they're wrong?

Jeez.

If they like things shoved up their ass, they aren't likely to be dead "straight" are they??
Straight men like fucking women. Period.
I don't know of, nor ever met, any really "straight" men that like anyone near their asses, not even a nice busty female nurse/doctor.

I'm sorry it hurts your masculinity and heterosexuality to view hard truth as it is.

A lot of straight men, whether into BDSM or not, like their women to play with their prostates with a finger. And by a lot, I mean a LOT.

Then they have Bi tendencies.
They aren't dead "straight".

Not a hard truth... just your interpretation of it. Vast difference.

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RE: hetro male slaves - 3/25/2014 2:25:41 PM

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Then they have Bi tendencies.
They aren't dead "straight".

Not a hard truth... just your interpretation of it. Vast difference.

It seems impossible for you to comprehend that bi, gay, and straight are about who you are ATTRACTED to, not what physical activity you choose to act out, or what you happen to get a good PHYSICAL sensation out of.

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RE: hetro male slaves - 3/25/2014 2:39:45 PM

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Then they have Bi tendencies.
They aren't dead "straight".

Not a hard truth... just your interpretation of it. Vast difference.

It seems impossible for you to comprehend that bi, gay, and straight are about who you are ATTRACTED to, not what physical activity you choose to act out, or what you happen to get a good PHYSICAL sensation out of.

Ok... lemme 'splain it to you.

I like having a blow job and I like being tossed off.
But.... only by a female. That sort of attention I enjoy.
From a guy????

No fucking way!!

So no, it's not just the gender you are attracted to; it's also the type of activities you enjoy with certain genders.

From your definition, I should also enjoy getting a BJ from a guy just because I happen to like BJ's??
Oh Yukk!!!

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RE: hetro male slaves - 3/25/2014 2:41:13 PM

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Fighting chains,
If there is hard truth in what you are saying, you certainly do a awful job of displaying it.
IMO the most prominent lack of comprehension evident here belongs to you.

If you think what you are trying to convince me of is some obvious truth, that my masculinity or self image is to fragile to accept. You're a fool.

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RE: hetro male slaves - 3/25/2014 2:46:10 PM

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Then they have Bi tendencies.
They aren't dead "straight".

Not a hard truth... just your interpretation of it. Vast difference.

It seems impossible for you to comprehend that bi, gay, and straight are about who you are ATTRACTED to, not what physical activity you choose to act out, or what you happen to get a good PHYSICAL sensation out of.

Ok... lemme 'splain it to you.

I like having a blow job and I like being tossed off.
But.... only by a female. That sort of attention I enjoy.
From a guy???? No fucking way!!

So no, it's not just the gender you are attracted to; it's also the type of activities you enjoy with certain genders.

From your definition, I should also enjoy getting a BJ from a guy just because I happen to like BJ's??
Oh Yukk!!!

Does it disgust you? Yes. Does sleeping with a woman disgust me? Yes.

Would I get a decent sensation out of a blowjob? Yes. And I'd hate every bit of it. But it would still FEEL good.

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RE: hetro male slaves - 3/25/2014 2:53:16 PM

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Then they have Bi tendencies.
They aren't dead "straight".

Not a hard truth... just your interpretation of it. Vast difference.

It seems impossible for you to comprehend that bi, gay, and straight are about who you are ATTRACTED to, not what physical activity you choose to act out, or what you happen to get a good PHYSICAL sensation out of.

Ok... lemme 'splain it to you.

I like having a blow job and I like being tossed off.
But.... only by a female. That sort of attention I enjoy.
From a guy???? No fucking way!!

So no, it's not just the gender you are attracted to; it's also the type of activities you enjoy with certain genders.

From your definition, I should also enjoy getting a BJ from a guy just because I happen to like BJ's??
Oh Yukk!!!

Does it disgust you? Yes. Does sleeping with a woman disgust me? Yes.

Would I get a decent sensation out of a blowjob? Yes. And I'd hate every bit of it. But it would still FEEL good.

And that would be your personal experience.

For me, and I daresay a lot of other "straight" guys would not feel the same as you.

If a female tried it, even a fugly one, I'd probably still get a rise.
Anything vaguely good looking and I'd be away with the faeries and enjoy every second of it.

If a guy tried it, I would be absolutely repulsed to the point of nausea.
I would not get a rise and I would certainly not get any decent sensation either.
I most certainly would not feel good at all - I'd probably be hurling everywhere.

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RE: hetro male slaves - 3/25/2014 3:12:26 PM

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Then they have Bi tendencies.
They aren't dead "straight".

Not a hard truth... just your interpretation of it. Vast difference.

Really now? So now we are defining gender orientation on the basis of sex act? Good lord. Well then chalk me up for a bi-guy who just happens to lust after exclusively females.

You do realize how ridiculous this is, right?

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RE: hetro male slaves - 3/25/2014 3:19:41 PM

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Then they have Bi tendencies.
They aren't dead "straight".

Not a hard truth... just your interpretation of it. Vast difference.

Really now? So now we are defining gender orientation on the basis of sex act? Good lord. Well then chalk me up for a bi-guy who just happens to lust after exclusively females.

You do realize how ridiculous this is, right?

Probably not the best way to explain what I meant. lol.
I think my next post above yours was a little better.

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RE: hetro male slaves - 3/25/2014 3:24:14 PM

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Men get physical enjoyment from receiving anal sex. Any object hitting their prostate will feel good, as much as that hurts your masculinity to think about.

If I hit a straight guys prostate with any object, he's get an enjoyable sensation.

That's simply not true.

Anal sex is extremely painful for me unless I'm suitable relaxed. That relaxation usually doesn't happen, because I'm so afraid it's going to hurt that it just hurts the entire time. I tend to tense up from the pain, which makes it even worse.

While I have no prostate, I envision similar reactions from a straight guy being penetrated by another man's dick, which means that it doesn't fucking matter how many times you bump their prostate, the overall experience will be one of overwhelming painful discomfort.

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RE: hetro male slaves - 3/25/2014 3:44:22 PM

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Can it be painful? Heck yes.

Can it feel good hitting the prostate? Yes. That is a physical stimulation that is a matter of stimulation to the nervous system in a way that the body finds extremely pleasurable even if the rest of your body is in pain.

The point I'm making is that the physical stimulation that is involved is irrespective of sexual attraction. It is simply a sensation of the male human nervous system.

If a woman stimulated my prostate I'd almost be vomiting in disgust, but I would still get a pleasurable sensation. It's just a sensation, like pain, but pleasurable.

Many straight male rape victims have a seriously hard time talking about it due to the prostate stimulation they felt. It felt good amongst all the pain, and that is awful and humiliating and a lot of the torture they feel in their own minds. And that's terrible.

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RE: hetro male slaves - 3/25/2014 3:45:27 PM

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And that is why girls want their ass spanked.

It's a cold, cruel world out there.

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RE: hetro male slaves - 3/25/2014 3:55:38 PM

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Can it be painful? Heck yes.

Can it feel good hitting the prostate? Yes. That is a physical stimulation that is a matter of stimulation to the nervous system in a way that the body finds extremely pleasurable even if the rest of your body is in pain.

Several of the straight guys with whom I've done finger penetration to try it during sex would beg to differ.
I have had about 70% turn down any mention of it even after the first try.

It's nice that you, as a gay switch, can imagine the pleasurable sensation being more prominent/important than the discomfort and pain, but that doesn't mean that applies for every man.

Do you realize how absurd it is to even attempt to make the argument: "for all human beings, when exposed to X, the reaction is Y"?

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RE: hetro male slaves - 3/25/2014 3:57:52 PM

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Can it be painful? Heck yes.

Can it feel good hitting the prostate? Yes. That is a physical stimulation that is a matter of stimulation to the nervous system in a way that the body finds extremely pleasurable even if the rest of your body is in pain.

Several of the straight guys with whom I've done finger penetration to try it during sex would beg to differ.
I have had about 70% turn down any mention of it even after the first try.

It's nice that you, as a gay switch, can imagine the pleasurable sensation being more prominent/important than the discomfort and pain, but that doesn't mean that applies for every man.

Do you realize how absurd it is to even attempt to make the argument: "for all human beings, when exposed to X, the reaction is Y"?

I didn't mean to suggest all would feel that way, and for that I apologise. But it's not about whether you are straight or gay. It's simply a physical sensation of the human nervous system.

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RE: hetro male slaves - 3/25/2014 4:03:14 PM

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I didn't mean to suggest all would feel that way, and for that I apologise. But it's not about whether you are straight or gay. It's simply a physical sensation of the human nervous system.

Yeah, a sensation +/- 70% of the heterosexual guys I've tried it with (sample group of 14) describe as "unpleasant".

You do realize that just because X group finds sensation Z pleasant, group Y won't necessarily feel the same way, right?

There are tons of females who don't like their pussies licked, and for whom that sensation is acutely unpleasant. Are you also arguing their wrong in their interpretation of their own body's signals?

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