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thisishis -> RE: Money. (7/8/2006 8:01:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Caretakr But neither of us is dismissing a slave as a useless sex pet. That has to be "Kept like an invalid" i wouldn't. It's my belief that no one maintains the right to dictate what anyone's worth should be defined as, other than the owner of the slave. And if any slave i come across were nothing more than a sex pet, i still wouldn't view them as an invalid, or 'incapable of providing for themselves'. i would say that they are capable, yet have accepted their owner's choice for them to not earn an income, and to serve as their owner defines as being suited to that owner's requirements and expectations, and/or amusements.

juliaoceania -> RE: Money. (7/8/2006 8:03:23 PM)
I applaud this comment.. it is so true.. sometimes submissives give up certain opportunities in order to gain the fulfillment of being what their dominant wants them to be. Isn't this the essense of Ds, both giving what the other needs for their mutual satisfaction?

Caretakr -> RE: Money. (7/8/2006 8:03:34 PM)
I agree. It was the notion that it was a default that chafed.

enigmabrat -> RE: Money. (7/8/2006 8:03:54 PM)
No im not saying that all subs should work out of the home there is n othing wrong with beeing a house wife sub or vanilla i just resent the Ops insinuation that a sub is the equivlent of an invalid

SusanofO -> RE: Money. (7/8/2006 8:13:44 PM)
Well, I guess for me personally - how much money someone makes just doesn't concern me all that much; I was raised in (relatively) pretty comfortable circumstances, and indoctrinated pretty consistently by a mother who said things like: "Marry a doctor" all the time, etc. - but - after living with someone who made quite a nice living for 15 years who didn't seem to care or not if I was even there, I can honestly say that for me, someone having more than "enough" money isn't all it's cracked up to be. Especially when the other party assumes that having any will make up for the many other areas in which they may be neglecting you (but I won't beat that pony to death again)... Of course, nobody wants to starve. I don't have to, but I fully intend to go back to work (once I figure out just what the heck I want to do) - I'd die of boredom if I didn't, probably. Of course, volunteer work doesn't ever count as "work" for some people - even though it can be work (but for me, it's just rewarding). - Susan

Caretakr -> RE: Money. (7/8/2006 8:36:23 PM)
So you could love someone who made modest buckos, but tied you up, beat your ass, and let you call him "my insane monkey boy?" Sounds good to me![;)]

SusanofO -> RE: Money. (7/8/2006 8:42:44 PM)
I am saying I am not impressed by it if there isn't anything else there: Deep caring, mutual respect, a sense of humor, fortitude and patience. If at least some of that isn't there - and if the two people are not really very good to or for eachother on a personal level, if they don't enhance eachother's lives in some spiritual or emotional way, then what's the point? On the other hand, there are people who, for various reasons, think finances are very important. Since it is their lives they are responsible for, who am I to question what they think? - Susan

Caretakr -> RE: Money. (7/8/2006 8:45:59 PM)
Well sure,but isn't a wacky sense of humor any good? I mean,where's the fun ,if you can't thump a girl, and see if you can hit the target x ring with the butt plug?

SusanofO -> RE: Money. (7/8/2006 8:47:24 PM)
I've never done that[:D] - Susan

Caretakr -> RE: Money. (7/8/2006 8:52:07 PM)
Poor deprived thing.[;)]

SusanofO -> RE: Money. (7/8/2006 8:58:19 PM)
Yeah, I know - it's been a rough life, but someone's got to live it (hehe). I am one of those people who just doesn't get why other people can get so riled because someone is engaging in bdsm actvity X________(fill in the blank), because they themselves don't happen to appreciate it. I read a lot, but am pretty uneducated when it comes to the more exotic forms of "play" - but have no predjudices (except for "the big three" and Scat). I have "soft limits": Knives are a big one for me. I guess I would try almost anything to see if I liked it - if I didn't hopefully I would not have to do it often (but of course, like to think I would sacrifice "for the cause", if necessary, w/out making it obvious I am). - Susan

Caretakr -> RE: Money. (7/8/2006 9:02:21 PM)
Wierd play is all about the approach. But I tend not to express myself like a priest conducting a catholic mass.[:D]

SusanofO -> RE: Money. (7/8/2006 9:06:33 PM)
The sound of someone's voice does seem to have a weird, hypnotizing effect on a lot of submissives, doesn't it? I know that is the case for me, even more than what they might be saying. I like it when people "talk dirty" but personally, I like it even more when they are doing genuinely awful things to me, but smiling gently and stroking my hair and saying, "Good girl, you are such a good girl". It just really makes me feel protected; I cannot explain it and nobody (except another submissive maybe) might fully understand just how deep into a trance that could take someone. I know there are people who get off on other people using words like: Bitch, cunt, etc - but that has always left me completely cold - does nothing for me at all (it may well do something for them, though). They may as well be reciting the alphabet - except for (occasionally) the word whore. - Susan

Caretakr -> RE: Money. (7/8/2006 9:10:11 PM)
I'm a baritone, I sing well. Very smooth, soothing voice. It's interesting what one can do with touch,a little bondage and hitting the right triggers-it's all good.

SusanofO -> RE: Money. (7/8/2006 9:11:33 PM)
I think the voice is a huge erogenous zone (albeit not "touchable" so maybe I am mis-using the word). I'm a mezzo-soprano, part-time Alto. - Susan

ExSteelAgain -> RE: Money. (7/8/2006 9:12:11 PM)
The princess would run away from the castle full of magnificent riches to be with the poor poet. Nothing has changed over the past couple thousand years.

Caretakr -> RE: Money. (7/8/2006 9:14:39 PM)
It's the combination of many subtle elements that makes it art.

SusanofO -> RE: Money. (7/8/2006 9:14:42 PM)
No, I agree, it hasn't. The "connection" one has with another person is what matters (to me, and probably to many other people, too). - Susan

sirdontre -> RE: Money. (7/8/2006 10:53:45 PM)
To be a Skill one I have earned my Mastership .I have earned plenty tools of the trade as well as taught my skills of this trade as well.It took 24yrs to be who I am today.My servants take care of me with the skills that they hold . It is not about money it is about how you go about being you ; and how others will see that you get what you so desire . If you place this lifestyle on materialistic matters then you BEING a Master is that you are mail order Master /Dom =brought your way into BDSM and with less skill followed . Remember to have and to obtain the correct credit and respect one must earn it .NO Doctor is a Doctor unless he worked for his DEGREE.

zenofeller -> RE: Money. (7/8/2006 10:56:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CrappyDom Gee, I haven't been getting any lately, I wonder what I could do? I mean I have shitloads of money and actually know enough to get my jacket sleeves tailored to the right length, I mean that should be enough to get me elbow deep in pussy and I can't think of ANY other reason they would be blowing me off. SO, what should I do? Oh I know, perhaps I will write a post that discreetly but transparently enough that the sluts will see I have money and spend it on the little whores. Yeah, that should get some more notches on the little guy. I will mask it in some insipid post about how poor other guys are and that should mask it enough for the whole charade to work. I mean, it has to work better than developing a personality and fixing all those things my ex girlfriends keep yelling at me as they run screaming down the street. the only thing your previos post told me is that you're poor. the only thing this post tells me is that you resent the mere mention of money. why should i care would be a more useful thing either could have told me. but to explain the obvious to you, those who can afford to pay enjoy the privilege to decide if they want to pay or not. those who can't afford enjoy the priviledge to declare they didn;t want to in the first place. now, if you're done overcompensating...

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