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Phydeaux -> Come on you liberals... defend THIS (3/28/2014 8:58:19 PM)

So, once upon a time the House of Representatives took up the “Gabriella Miller Kids First Research Act.” Come, I will conceal nothing from you: it is a bill designed to reduce some of the – well deserved – anger felt towards the national parties by ending a particular subsidy. To wit: the bill takes about 126 million dollars (over ten years) that would normally be given to Republican/Democratic party conventions and instead assigns the money to pediatric disease research. The DNC & RNC aren’t happy about this, of course – but let’s face it: there’s a reason why this sailed through Congress and the President will be happy to sign the bill into law next week. All in all, a moment of rare sensible behavior from our politicians…

Well. Everybody who isn’t a liberal Democrat, of course. The Nay votes on this have a certain basic familiarity about them: lots and lots and lots of progressive names on that. I was a little surprised about that, actually, given that the Senate version passed unanimously by voice vote; but then I remembered that even the safest Senator isn’t as safe as, say, a Nancy Pelosi or a Henry Waxman. Still. You’d think that they wouldn’t snub sick kids like this: I mean, it was obviously going to pass anyway, so why not do the right thing for a change and proclaim to the world that money was better spent on pediatric research than on party supplies?




dcnovice -> RE: Come on you liberals... defend THIS (3/28/2014 9:08:59 PM)

A bipartisan pediatric medical research bill named for Loudoun County childhood cancer awareness advocate Gabriella Miller was passed by unanimous consent in the U.S. Senate on Tuesday and will go to President Obama to be signed into law.

House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.), a foremost supporter of HR 2019, the Gabriella Miller Kids First Research Act, said in a statement that the bill offers an example of “the good that can be done when both parties work together.”

. . .

The research act, introduced by Rep. Gregg Harper (R-Miss.) and Rep. Peter Welch (D-Vt.), was passed by the House of Representatives in December. Some House Democrats opposed the bill, claiming that it distracted from deeper, Republican-supported sequester cuts to National Institutes of Health funding.

“Detractors have said this isn’t enough, we need more funding for NIH, and we agree,” said Megan Whittemore, Cantor’s press secretary. “This is a first step, and the leader has been emphatic about that.”

. . .

In January, Sen. Timothy M. Kaine (D) and Sen. Mark R. Warner (D) of Virginia, along with Sen. Orrin G. Hatch (R-Utah), announced their support of the act. Rep. Frank R. Wolf (R-Va.) also signed on as one of more than 100 co-sponsors of the legislation.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/federal-pediatric-medical-research-act-passes-senate-heads-to-white-house/2014/03/11/101166b0-a939-11e3-b61e-8051b8b52d06_story.html

It's an impressive, if pathetic, bit of trollmanship to take something Eric Cantor, no liberal, hailed as a bipartisan triumph and pitch it as a chance to sling mud across the aisle.




Phydeaux -> RE: Come on you liberals... defend THIS (3/28/2014 9:34:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

A bipartisan pediatric medical research bill named for Loudoun County childhood cancer awareness advocate Gabriella Miller was passed by unanimous consent in the U.S. Senate on Tuesday and will go to President Obama to be signed into law.

House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.), a foremost supporter of HR 2019, the Gabriella Miller Kids First Research Act, said in a statement that the bill offers an example of “the good that can be done when both parties work together.”

. . .

The research act, introduced by Rep. Gregg Harper (R-Miss.) and Rep. Peter Welch (D-Vt.), was passed by the House of Representatives in December. Some House Democrats opposed the bill, claiming that it distracted from deeper, Republican-supported sequester cuts to National Institutes of Health funding.

“Detractors have said this isn’t enough, we need more funding for NIH, and we agree,” said Megan Whittemore, Cantor’s press secretary. “This is a first step, and the leader has been emphatic about that.”

. . .

In January, Sen. Timothy M. Kaine (D) and Sen. Mark R. Warner (D) of Virginia, along with Sen. Orrin G. Hatch (R-Utah), announced their support of the act. Rep. Frank R. Wolf (R-Va.) also signed on as one of more than 100 co-sponsors of the legislation.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/federal-pediatric-medical-research-act-passes-senate-heads-to-white-house/2014/03/11/101166b0-a939-11e3-b61e-8051b8b52d06_story.html

It's an impressive, if pathetic, bit of trollmanship to take something Eric Cantor, no liberal, hailed as a bipartisan triumph and pitch it as a chance to sling mud across the aisle.



Its an even more impressive feat of hypocrisy for the House democratic leadership - self annointed defenders of the poor and downtrodden to vote against diverting money from their nominating convention TO pediatric research.




dcnovice -> RE: Come on you liberals... defend THIS (3/28/2014 9:50:49 PM)

Sorry hon, but I gave up trolls for Lent.




joether -> RE: Come on you liberals... defend THIS (3/29/2014 3:06:06 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux
So, once upon a time the House of Representatives took up the “Gabriella Miller Kids First Research Act.” Come, I will conceal nothing from you: it is a bill designed to reduce some of the – well deserved – anger felt towards the national parties by ending a particular subsidy. To wit: the bill takes about 126 million dollars (over ten years) that would normally be given to Republican/Democratic party conventions and instead assigns the money to pediatric disease research. The DNC & RNC aren’t happy about this, of course – but let’s face it: there’s a reason why this sailed through Congress and the President will be happy to sign the bill into law next week. All in all, a moment of rare sensible behavior from our politicians…

Well. Everybody who isn’t a liberal Democrat, of course. The Nay votes on this have a certain basic familiarity about them: lots and lots and lots of progressive names on that. I was a little surprised about that, actually, given that the Senate version passed unanimously by voice vote; but then I remembered that even the safest Senator isn’t as safe as, say, a Nancy Pelosi or a Henry Waxman. Still. You’d think that they wouldn’t snub sick kids like this: I mean, it was obviously going to pass anyway, so why not do the right thing for a change and proclaim to the world that money was better spent on pediatric research than on party supplies?


Its funny how often you assume huge amount of complete fantasy for facts. Which party passed healthcare legislation on behalf of the nation, and which party opposed it within the last four years?




DaNewAgeViking -> RE: Come on you liberals... defend THIS (3/29/2014 4:29:47 AM)

I note the Dems who opposed it did so because it didn't do enough for sick kids......... Not sure how one could classify that as 'an impressive feat of hypocracy', but then, you look at the world through different eyes than most of us.
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Lucylastic -> RE: Come on you liberals... defend THIS (3/29/2014 4:41:10 AM)

Omfg, really...this is fucking tragic.




Moonhead -> RE: Come on you liberals... defend THIS (3/29/2014 7:06:54 AM)

I wonder if there's a peculiar type of stroke right leaning trolls suffer from if they obsess about the Kenyan and those evil liberal Democrats* too much?

*(Who are largely identical to the saner/RINO elements of the GOP most of the time for those who aren't wearing tea party ideological blinkers. Not all that liberal by any sane standard, if we're honest.)




DomKen -> RE: Come on you liberals... defend THIS (3/29/2014 8:08:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

I wonder if there's a peculiar type of stroke right leaning trolls suffer from if they obsess about the Kenyan and those evil liberal Democrats* too much?

*(Who are largely identical to the saner/RINO elements of the GOP most of the time for those who aren't wearing tea party ideological blinkers. Not all that liberal by any sane standard, if we're honest.)

It's called Obama Derangement Syndrome.




kalikshama -> RE: Come on you liberals... defend THIS (3/29/2014 8:13:56 AM)

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mnottertail -> RE: Come on you liberals... defend THIS (3/29/2014 8:19:20 AM)

Come on you nutsackers... say something that ain't fuckin stupid.




DaNewAgeViking -> RE: Come on you liberals... defend THIS (3/29/2014 10:10:00 AM)

Good luck on that, Otter...
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Yachtie -> RE: Come on you liberals... defend THIS (3/29/2014 10:53:08 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Come on you nutsackers... say something that ain't fuckin stupid.



Guess you need pointers. [:D]




njlauren -> RE: Come on you liberals... defend THIS (3/29/2014 1:38:41 PM)

The irony is that Eric Kantor calls this a great victory, where they are spending as whopping 12.6 million a year on children's health care research..which anyone who knows anything about research means it is not even a token (as Pat Moynihan once said, anything under a billion dollars is not real). Meanwhile, selfsame conservatives tried to take billions out of the food stamps program while increasing subsidies to farmers and worse, to huge agribusinesses, and they have the gall to call this real? This bill is window dressing, 12 million a year is bupkus in terms of medical research or anything else for that matter.




Phydeaux -> RE: Come on you liberals... defend THIS (3/30/2014 4:23:42 PM)

Way to divert from the real issue.

Which would you rather fund. Nominating conventions or pediatric research?





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