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njlauren -> RE: Everyone Has a Closet (3/31/2014 9:14:37 PM)
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ORIGINAL: kdsub
We have come a long way in the last few years when it comes to attitudes on Gays...Sometimes I get the idea here on CM that many think the war is won and only right wing conservatives are bigoted...Will... when there is no need to hide in a closet terrified to come out...then I'll think the war is won.
Butch
Very true, butch.It is very easy with conservative catholics turning Catholicism into being anti gay (and anti abortion, thank you, Pope Francis, for the very least at telling them and other that Catholicism has a lot of things more important to worry about), of course the religious right and their GOP handlers with their full court press against gays to please the rednecks and yahoos and the like, it is easy to think that the war is gonna be won because they are in full retreat over same sex marriage, and young Catholics and even evangelicals don't have the hatred of gays their elders often did.
That said, it is very much like racism, where it is very easy to point to the Jim Crow south or to the attitudes of many of the tea party types as proof that racism is a redneckey kind of thing..where as another thread on schools pointed out, in the so called liberal places, most kids are in schools about as segregated as the deep south was in the 1950's, and attitudes towards blacks, while not overt, are still there, fear of things like low income housing cause 'that is going to bring blacks from the projects", or even fear if a black family moves into the neighborhood and so forth.
With gays, it is much the same thing. People who have no problem with gay marriage being legal might very well go nuts if one of their kids is gay (especially sad, worried about 'what other people will think of them'). People who claim they are okay with gays, but if they work with someone who is openly gay or suspect they are, will treat them differently, even if it is to go out of their way to show they are cool around gays (if you are cool around someone, you don't treat them any differently). And we can't say the victory is won until as butch says, being open about being gay is about as interesting as saying you like pork chops for dinner or prefer dating brunettes or admit you root for the NY Jets (well, okay, the last one will always be shameful..). The fact that people all over still feel afraid to simply be themselves means there is still a lot of homophobia out there, if someone grows up where something is truly accepted, it isn't hard to admit it the way coming out still is. Not to mention that in 35 states you can be fired for being gay or for openly saying you married a person of the same sex,and the federal government refuses to pass legislation protecting LGBT people from discrimination (and think about this, what does it tell a gay person coming out that congress refuses to protect them from one of the most important things out there, being able to have a decent job, or that no one, not the democrats, not Obama, is calling those against on it?).
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