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Maradium -> What is the satisfaction of the caneee? (4/1/2014 11:06:57 AM)

Easily I understand the sensual allure of caning someone but I ask what is the particular satisfaction of the canee is?



stef -> RE: What is the satisfaction of the caneee? (4/1/2014 11:12:47 AM)

For me, there's isn't any. Not a single bit and I do everything I can to avoid the cane.



Leatherprincess4 -> RE: What is the satisfaction of the caneee? (4/1/2014 11:18:50 AM)

There is something oddly satisfying about it. Personally I prefer most pain to be inflicted by leather or bare hands, when it comes down to it, pain is pain. While I go to great lengths to hide any visible injury, seeing the bruises helps you to relive the experience.



LeatherBentOne51 -> RE: What is the satisfaction of the caneee? (4/1/2014 12:32:59 PM)

I experienced the other side of the cane during the 5 years I subbed to learn more about submission and the pain I now inflict many years later. I was utterly amazed how a person could hit my butt with the cane in such a way that the pain radiated up my spine in waves, until the pain reached my neck and exploded into white hot pain inside my brain like there was a direct connection. I will never forget that experience. It only happened that one time and I found the pain, in general, to be quite intense.

I fully understand the pain and intensity of the cane when using it on someone else. For that reason, I only use it after trust is established and I believe the other person is ready for it. I gradually build up the pain level, maybe starting with bare hand spanking, crop, flogging, etc. I would never start with a cane except for the very rare instance of corporal punishment. I've learned how to punish in far better ways.

LBO51



frunandsins -> RE: What is the satisfaction of the caneee? (4/1/2014 3:22:11 PM)

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what is the particular satisfaction of the canee?


There are two levels.

One is the pyschological submission. It allows the sub to demonstrat his/her submission by consenting to being beaten, quite intensely. This is a commom element for many plays amongst subs who get off on pleasing and satisfying their masters. If their pain makes their masters happy, then they will accept the pain and embrace it. In dosing so, it helps them get into the submissive headspace, and thus makes the session more satisfying to them.

On the physical level, pain sensations induce endorphines, which is a hormone that is also released during pleasure derived from eating and sex and exercise. So you know how some people become a bit high after a hard workout? Or how there is this thing called "runner's high?" Or how some people become compulsive eaters? All related to regulation of endorphins. So inducing pain can induce a sensation of pleasure and satisfaction.

The important part to note is that it doesn't work on everyone. Everyone's brain chemistry is a bit different. Some people are easily addicted to cocaine and some are not. Some have a hard time controlling drinking urges and others do not. We are all complex little biological machines.

So pain *can* induce pleasure, or something very like it, but it doesn't do that for everyone. Pain subs who seek pain are most likely in the group of people who do get a high from it, either from learned behavior or from their own chemistry.



shiftyw -> RE: What is the satisfaction of the caneee? (4/1/2014 4:38:05 PM)

Hate canes.

If I had to find something satisfying I guess making my partner happy.

I'm with someone right now who much prefers to use his hands or a flogger. Which is good.



TNDommeK -> RE: What is the satisfaction of the caneee? (4/1/2014 9:51:17 PM)

Oh my gosh! I get such a rush. The sound of it slicing the air, the impact sound, his or her cries, the welps,
The begging....it's wonderful



DoYouLikePain -> RE: What is the satisfaction of the caneee? (4/11/2014 1:45:19 PM)

Nice response (frunandsins) ... the only one w/ a physiological element.

I'd only differ from you in saying that in the hands of the right Dom/me who knows how to
1) "read" where the sub/slave is at in a scene
&
2) build on sensations to gradually bring the sub/slave along, gradually inducing more endorphins, so that the she eventually is fully into "subspace" and can then go much further.

Any Dom/me who starts w/ 20 of his/her best at the outset doesn't know what s/he is doing ... OR ... it's being done purely for punishment (and then it's appropriate). YMMV

IF doing caning for mutual pleasure, then the Dom/me has to titrate the blows and read the sub/slave's response so s/he knows whether to back off, ride at the present level, or increase the stimuli. It's a matter of stimulating those endorphins.

Alternately, one can exhaust the Substance P in the substantia gelatinosa so that the nerves no longer conduct pain ... but ... then we are in for a long, long, long night of it. Not a practical approach. (The Dom/me would have carpal tunnel flareup before that happens.)

"IN THE OLD DAYS" before the internet & everyone's opinion appearing to be of equal validity, we HAD to learn to read a sub during play, if you didn't, ... well, let's just say, orange isn't a good color on everyone.

With a 5-10 min preliminary chat w/ a sub/slave who wants me to play them ... and w/ my ability to read where s/he is in play, I can pretty reliably put any sub into subspace within 5-10 min, even if we'd never met before. I've done it several times a night during parties. You don't get that training/experience/skill online or from going to munches or a dozen play parties.




TiedUpReady -> RE: What is the satisfaction of the caneee? (4/19/2014 7:22:06 AM)

I love to be caned but it has nothing to do with submission (not everyone who likes pain is a sub/slave) but rather because of the sensations during and after.



freedomdwarf1 -> RE: What is the satisfaction of the caneee? (4/19/2014 7:28:10 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Maradium

Easily I understand the sensual allure of caning someone but I ask what is the particular satisfaction of the canee is?

I really don't understand the question.

As much as others have tried to put some sort of spin on it; to me, it's very simple: They enjoy it.
Nothing more, nothing less..... They just like it. Does there need to be any long-winded explanation??

Meh!! Why complicate matters.



orgasmdenial12 -> RE: What is the satisfaction of the caneee? (4/20/2014 3:24:07 AM)

The cane is such a particular, precise implement - it's scary and the fear is part of what attracts me. I grew up in England and read and talked about people being caned at school, so it has that reputation as the worst kind of punishment. Being a masochist, I'm immediately attracted lol.

As for the sensation, it's actually very wonderful, when done right. With a thick, thuddy cane which hasn't been peeled, as the cane lands it's a very crisp kind of a thud, it's a little stingy, immediately followed by the bruising weight of the cane, which reverberates through the pelvis. If the strokes are a suitable distance apart (5 - 10 seconds) then the whole thing has an almost vibrator like effect on me and I actually get aroused and orgasm from it. That moment when the pain transmutes into pleasure is astonishing.

Afterwards, the bruises can be quite deep and it's an experience all of its own to sit down in the hours and days afterwards, and feel this bruised bottom reminding you of your play. I like it when a Dom will casually pat my ass or run a hand over my ass to remind me of the bruises, I also like looking at them in the mirror, they can last for ages.



LookieNoNookie -> RE: What is the satisfaction of the caneee? (4/20/2014 5:44:38 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Maradium

Easily I understand the sensual allure of caning someone but I ask what is the particular satisfaction of the canee is?


Watch someone get caned, who devours it and you'll never need to ask the question again.

I did, it absolutely frightened me (for the canee) and it went on for nearly 15 minutes (severely) and when I noticed at first I was crying, I wanted them to stop. When I noticed I was crying because I was watching something unbelievably beautiful and loving, I understood.



sandyTheSub -> RE: What is the satisfaction of the caneee? (4/21/2014 4:03:16 PM)

I hate the cane. But I love the feeling when the pain ends :p

But Pain can get you a high and the cane is pretty good in giving pain.



kiwisub12 -> RE: What is the satisfaction of the caneee? (4/21/2014 5:05:46 PM)

I love to be caned (as opposed to floggers), not because they don't hurt, because they do, badly, but because caning with a thuddy cane, can take me to subspace. My late dom was a master at this.



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