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njlauren -> RE: The 10 Dumbest Things Ever Said About Abortion and Women's Rights (4/13/2014 8:41:03 PM)
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The anti abortion people have a point about abortion, I can understand why they could view it the way they do. The problem is that many of the anti abortion people lose credibility because their views on other things make the matter worse, not better. Many of the anti abortion crowd are also anti sex, so they are big supporters of abstinence only sex ed, bans on condom distribution, cutting funds to planned parenthood and the like, which increases demand for abortion (the bible belt has the highest rate of teen pregnancy in the nation). They talk about the 'right of the fetus', yet as with anti abortion douchebags like Paul Ryan and the rest of the religious right/tea party types, they then turn around and gut the programs that disproportionally help children (polls of pro life people show a large majority of them favor gutting social service programs like medicaid, welfare,head start and other such social programs). They can sit there and excommunicate a nun who approved a medical abortion to save the life of a mother with 4 young kids who was dying, the nun saw the horror of 4 kids growing up without a mother and recognized that morality isn't always so cut and dried, unlike the mean,nasty jerks running the church in the US since JPII and Der Pope stacked the deck with blind fools. Someone drooler blamed Sandy Hook on abortion, but what if testing could have shown that the fetus that became Adam Lanza would have serious mental health issues, and the parents had made the decision to have an abortion, which was worse, that one fetus aborted or 26 people, most of them innocent little kids, still being alive? (I realize that in all likelyhood, no such test could detect Adam Lanza would turn into a cold blooded killer, but suppose it could?).
I often wonder if men got pregnant, if we would see such an outcry. One of the unsaid things underlying a lot of the posts mentioned by the idiots is the idea that in some ways, an unintended pregancy is 'the just rewards for sin". When they say abortion shouldn't cover rape, because if a women is really raped a baby won't form, that implies directly that if a woman got pregnant from a so called rape, what she really is doing is covering up consensual sex (since of course, according to their bible, all women are Eve's daughters, temptresses of pure men, etc...). They also believe if you put exemptions in rape laws for abortion, women in droves will claim to be raped to be able to get an abortion (leaving out, of course, that it is likely that if such a thing came to pass and abortion was made illegal, women would need to show proof they had been raped, not to mention that to avoid the embarassment of having to come forward,most women would probably seek out an illegal abortion so women crying rape to get an abortion is not likely to happen, but they believe that.
A lot of pro choice people, like myself, believe there are far too many abortions, using abortion as birth control makes no sense. Hillary Clinton, whom I rarely agree with, said that abortion should be rare but legal, and if the pro life crowd really want to eliminate abortion they should get on the page with preventing pregnancy, not banning abortion, and they should also be pushing, not to gut social programs, but to strengthen them so they can offer pregnant women hope for themselves and their kids. If they truly feel abortion is murder, then maybe they should work towards where women don't feel that abortion is their only option. All the talk about adoption is crock, if there really were all these people willing to adopt kids, how come the adoption and foster services of every state are blown out by huge caseloads? And how about instead of living in the dark ages, push for realistic sex education and access to birth control to prevent pregnancy rather than promoting bronze age morality as sex ed?
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