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puella -> RE: BDSM Masters and Mistresses someone needs truthfully, unbiased and educational answers. (7/18/2006 5:29:41 PM)

I believe the feathers are worn in some sort of purple tribal headdress??... I may be wrong.




mnottertail -> RE: BDSM Masters and Mistresses someone needs truthfully, unbiased and educational answers. (7/18/2006 5:30:53 PM)

But I can see by that simple statement why you were picked, puella obviously has an eye toward pomp and circumstance........

and you got it baby!!!!!!!!

Now, ditch the shit you are living in, buy a ranch  in australia, and get puella with you........call us back in about a year and tell us you ain't happy.....


I fuckin' DARE you.

Lovingly,
Ron




cynthiamarie -> RE: BDSM Masters and Mistresses someone needs truthfully, unbiased and educational answers. (7/18/2006 7:07:31 PM)

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BDSM Masters and Mistresses someone needs truthfully, unbiased and educational answers


This surely has been an education. 

Now about that wedding, with the sluts of honor in black with some red, and the gussied up to the nines TVs...whereza pix?  [:D] 

*Wonders what the gifts were like...please don't say it was Tupperware and bed sheets.* 

Stuff was ordered from enlightened BDSM stores' bridal registries, right? [;)]





puella -> RE: BDSM Masters and Mistresses someone needs truthfully, unbiased and educational answers. (7/18/2006 7:38:30 PM)

Well, yanno, I haven't finalized the numbers on the bridal party yet... it keeps growing, I have about 30 attendants as it stands.... and um.. well... Crappy still has to be convinced/hypno-voodooized into realizing I'm the best damned bride ever, and propose.... but yanno, beyond that... things are on target!




Sinergy -> RE: BDSM Masters and Mistresses someone needs truthfull, unbiased and educational answers. (7/18/2006 7:50:44 PM)

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ORIGINAL: darkinshadows

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ORIGINAL: Sinergy

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ORIGINAL: darkinshadows

You can request it - yet you cannot control it - but a request is different to a demand.  Requests are questioning - demands are statements.
(sorry - word nazi here[;)])



So what you are saying is that one needs to be clear as to whether one's sentences are declaratives or interrogatories?

Im always amused by people who make declarative statements and wait for me to answer them.

I sometimes respond with "Im sorry, were you asking a question?" or if I am feeling obnoxious I will let the silence hang until the other
person says something like "well" impatiently, and I will say "Im waiting for the actual question."

Just me, probably wrong, but whats the point of living if one cannot
derive enjoyment from it.

Sinergy

Usually, Sinergy - I would agree with you - but not in the context of this specific thread or the tradition which is basically being held up to public scrutiny.  Gorean slaves are not expected to make any demands - if someone identifies as being a Gorean slave, yet does not behave in accordance to the protocols - even in a non Goreans arena(ie this board) one has to question the validity of the original question.
 
I am not trying to pull jezabels post apart, nor her belief - but if one identifies as something that is as particular as Gorean slavery is - and yet does not follow the protocols that such an identification holds - one has to question the motive behind the threads and discussions themselves.
 
We all know the old 'argument' - call yourself a slave, but you not a slave to me - thats basically the premise of this thread.  Only it is turned around onto Gorean Masters and Mistress'.  People within BDSM circles call themselves all manner of things, from slave to Lords... its a title and to some communities within BDSM they are honourifics BUT they are unique.  In Gorean circles - the difference is that it is written in stone - carved on a tablet and printed in a book.   Protocols are more expected - slaves are property and expected to call all Frees Master or Mistress(in general).  Of course there are Frees who do not demand or expect this - but for a slave it is imperitive to understand that if you enter someones house or domain, there are expectations within a Gorean environment.  If you dont like it, or dont expect it - don't go.  But at the same time, you cannot them demand that everyone accept you within the community you associate with - just because you want them to.  That is like claiming you are Native american - and never been to america and have none in your blood.
 
Peace and Rapture



Thank you for the clarification, darkinshadows.  I am not overly familiar with Gorean tradition, despite having read at least 18 of John Norman's Gor books when I was younger, and submissives I have in my life are directed to speak their needs and desires in clear, concise form.

Not saying they will get them, but I hate trying to figure out ambiguous comments and vague requests.

Just me, etc.

Sinergy




IronBear -> RE: BDSM Masters and Mistresses someone needs truthfull, unbiased and educational answers. (7/18/2006 7:57:40 PM)

Greetings Sinergy,

I am in complete unequivocal agreement with you in this.. I too dislike having to work out what a slave, or anyone for that matter, is asking for or saying. I prefer and with slaves, direct that they shall speek in clear and concise terms so there is no misunderstanding..




Emperor1956 -> RE: BDSM Masters and Mistresses someone needs truthfully, unbiased and educational answers. (7/18/2006 8:05:15 PM)

at the risk of being trite, puella:

You go, girl!
 
he deserved that one, and more.

E.




puella -> RE: BDSM Masters and Mistresses someone needs truthfully, unbiased and educational answers. (7/18/2006 8:06:22 PM)

Who??  Crappy???  He hasn't gotten it yet, luv! lol




Emperor1956 -> RE: BDSM Masters and Mistresses someone needs truthfully, unbiased and educational answers. (7/18/2006 8:56:54 PM)

No, the clueless one who confused your real self with your posts here.

I don't know if Crappy deserves to "get it"...you'll be the judge of that, miss.

E.




IronBear -> RE: BDSM Masters and Mistresses someone needs truthfully, unbiased and educational answers. (7/18/2006 11:08:49 PM)

Emperor you and I rarely agree but in this case I agree with you 100%




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