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RE: Woman Contacts Man First - 5/1/2014 10:54:54 AM   
Darkfeather


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quote:

ORIGINAL: FieryOpal

I acknowledged the points summersub made about Domme message responsiveness, but that was not the intent of my post and would have taken me off into more tangents.

Nevertheless, I can see this is of greater concern to males. My focus was on submissive males and not what approach Doms take and prefer.
What I'm hearing, though, is male hesitation and frustration in being ignored and/or rejected. Who wouldn't rather sit in the catbird's perch? (Is that how the saying goes? )
Rejection is a fact of life. You go out on job interviews. If you're in the dramatic arts, you may go out for 100 auditions, get 3 call-backs if you're lucky, and still might not get the acting job.

Every woman on this site does things a bit differently according to their priorities. I won't say how I handle mine, but I don't do mass-deletes, and I rarely if ever block someone unless they start acting obnoxious, so you are jumping to the wrong conclusions that every woman has dismissive policies or won't ever bother to read your message anyway, so why even make the effort.

All I can say is this, not to get into male Dominants' business as to how they choose to go about connecting with a prospective partner. Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't many of you seeking a more old-fashioned, traditionalist type of submissive female of the '50s household variety? It is therefore counterintuitive for any of you to take a passive approach and expect women to take on the initializing, assertive role.
That's just my 2 cents' worth.


All things being equal, I would say hell yes. You are right, I do enjoy being the "man". But that is in person, where things are on a more level playing field. In person, I can use body language, I can talk, I can joke. All things that us guys use to, ya know, charm. Things that help set us aside from the assholes of the world, and say "hey, I might be a potential mate, wanna fu... err, get some coffee?" Online, all we have are words. Simple pixels combined together to make a perceived intent. Now those words are only effective if, 1. the woman in question actually reads them, 2. the woman in question actually gets my perceived intent, and 3. the woman in question finds those words worthy of her time and effort to contact me back. Now, in person, I at least have some control over the outcome. If I am failing in some social interaction with my intended female, I can at least try to recover. Joke is failing, I can try another. She doesn't like the drink I ordered her, I can laugh it off as my mistake and try again. Online, we have no such recourse. We have no control over the interactions between us and females. We have to simply send out our little packets of email and hope that they get past 1, then 2, and lastly 3. Online interactions have nothing to do with being dominant or being "manly", but simple logic. Especially when the lion-share of complains about hate mail and annoying mail come from those very same women. We as men are asked to pursue, and yet we are also asked to wade through all the other flotsam that pours into the average inbox. To the sensible male, that just does not make... sense

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RE: Woman Contacts Man First - 5/1/2014 11:40:30 AM   
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I'm the woman who wrote what the op quoted and here is the reason behind my belief.

When I advertised myself as an open minded bisexual woman, one in thirty of the people who wrote to me were females and yet in all the years I struck up conversation with those females, when I asked for face time or a phone call (Please keep in mind I wasn't asking for a DNA sample) their sudden disappearance was about as common as a late train. I have, to date, not had such a problem with guys who are all too happy to give me facetime, chat on the phone or meet up for coffee and probably a DNA sample if I wanted one . Whilst I accept that women in general are more coy, if they are forthcoming enough to make the first contact with me then why the sudden shyness when it comes to confirming who they are?

Now saying that, I refuse to tar and feather all females contacting me with the intention of striking up a conversation that could lead to a potential date. I'm not but I am saying the majority of those women are somewhat bogus.

I don't believe women are more unreliable than men. I do however believe they have a lot more choice when it comes to the online dating game. We do however, get harassed and find ourselves putting up with a nasty strain of toxic waste trolls and mischief makers and perhaps its that, that makes us more savvy, more suspicious and I believe, more intuitive.

Having male friends that use online dating, I know that its very, very seldom they get a message from a woman looking for a date. Yes, they get messages from female friends or wanting to enquire about something that was said in a post but not looking for a date. I, on the other hand, get plenty of 'come ons' from lesbian or bi females and from past experience, I believe 90% or more of those lesbian and bi females are men.

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RE: Woman Contacts Man First - 5/1/2014 11:52:13 AM   
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I do what I please. If I see someone who looks interesting and I want to talk to them, I simply TALK to them. I don't wait for it to happen as "traditional" society would have women do. On the other hand, IN GENERAL I am a busy person and if subs want to get My attention they are better off contacting Me, since I don't GENERALLY go searching around looking for someone to make contact with. My inbox always has new contacts.

If you are one of those misogynists/homophobics who doesn't believe women know how to use computers, let alone the internet (or goodness forbid--COMBAT-BASED VIDEO GAMES, as I've personally faced others' disbelief of My gender), "therefore she MUST be a guy", then you REALLY shouldn't be using the internet.



quote:

ORIGINAL: SWDesertDom

A quote from another thread:
quote:

I think its very unusual for a woman to make the first contact and I'm afraid that would always rouse my suspicions.


My experience, as a man seeking a woman, has been completely the opposite of this. If a woman contacts me (and isn't transparently a scammer or faker), I find that there is a very high probability that I will end up meeting her. Around half of the women I've met in person contacted me first. Although none ended up working out as long term relationships, I've never thought that any were especially suspicious, or "fake."

What are other people's experiences? I hypothesize that women's experience (with other women) is completely different than most men's.



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RE: Woman Contacts Man First - 5/1/2014 4:14:16 PM   
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quote:

My inbox always has new contacts.


I have no doubt. Most women's inboxes are full of new contacts. However, these contacts will be mostly wankmail and dead ducks - men, in general, who nobody would want. On the other hand, men who are relationship material - that is, men who at minimum show signs of being able to relate to women as people; discuss things, show intelligence, personality and feelings . . . they're quite rare. So why not pursue them? After all, you don't have to tell other women that you are pursuing a given man. There's no necessary loss of face.

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RE: Woman Contacts Man First - 5/1/2014 5:57:25 PM   
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As an older (56) submissive masochistic woman, I looked at profiles. and emailed the men that interested me. I was looking for a partner and went about it in the most expedient way possible.

Of the emails I sent out, I met probably with six or seven of the men behind them, and ended up with a lovely man.

Oddly enough not one man told me that I was being unsubmissive/unfeminine/bad for contacting them first.

I had a goal and I went for it. I don't have time for playing dating games or worrying about who contacts who or if they were real. Real was the ones that turned up when they said they would.

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RE: Woman Contacts Man First - 5/1/2014 6:05:11 PM   
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I am one of those woman who happily contact people who interest me. I am happy to seek out what I want. So if someone catches me eye, because of something they said or have Peons abs *smiles* I often initiate contact.


I do not think who sends the first email, or initiates the first look across a room denotes the flow of the rest of the interactions.

Anecdotally I have a more enjoyable interaction with those I start the contact with than those who message me first.


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