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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Look, I have long raged against right wing extremist militias and the various movements they represent, but I have to point out the following:

1) there have been no armed checkpoints set up on public roads, highways

2) with the exception of an incident at an LDS church, since the BLM backed off, there have been no armed confrontations with law enforcement.

3) despite reports to the contrary, made by democrat senators and congressmen, and backed up by liberal websites that are doing the same bullshit as infomars and before its news, there have been no confirmed acts indicating an armed insurrection is actually going on.

So why I do believe there is more than enough justification for a DOJ move on the property and its occupants, strictly on violations of court orders and preventing agents of the government from doing their duty, there is no justification for an armed military move on the Bundy ranch.

What I think is funny is that there are people quoting liberal webpages that are no better than Limbaugh, Beck and others, while they complained about those pundits being quoted as fact by conservatives.

I posted a confirmed instance in the other thread where the militia goons stopped a rancher on a public highway with guns drawn. That is certainly way past legal.

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Look, I have long raged against right wing extremist militias and the various movements they represent, but I have to point out the following:

1) there have been no armed checkpoints set up on public roads, highways

2) with the exception of an incident at an LDS church, since the BLM backed off, there have been no armed confrontations with law enforcement.

3) despite reports to the contrary, made by democrat senators and congressmen, and backed up by liberal websites that are doing the same bullshit as infomars and before its news, there have been no confirmed acts indicating an armed insurrection is actually going on.

So why I do believe there is more than enough justification for a DOJ move on the property and its occupants, strictly on violations of court orders and preventing agents of the government from doing their duty, there is no justification for an armed military move on the Bundy ranch.

What I think is funny is that there are people quoting liberal webpages that are no better than Limbaugh, Beck and others, while they complained about those pundits being quoted as fact by conservatives.

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
Look, I have long raged against right wing extremist militias and the various movements they represent, but I have to point out the following:

1) there have been no armed checkpoints set up on public roads, highways

2) with the exception of an incident at an LDS church, since the BLM backed off, there have been no armed confrontations with law enforcement.

3) despite reports to the contrary, made by democrat senators and congressmen, and backed up by liberal websites that are doing the same bullshit as infomars and before its news, there have been no confirmed acts indicating an armed insurrection is actually going on.

So why I do believe there is more than enough justification for a DOJ move on the property and its occupants, strictly on violations of court orders and preventing agents of the government from doing their duty, there is no justification for an armed military move on the Bundy ranch.

What I think is funny is that there are people quoting liberal webpages that are no better than Limbaugh, Beck and others, while they complained about those pundits being quoted as fact by conservatives.

You don't understand, the article said it was true so it has to be. After all according to it....

"Hotels in Mesquite are reporting that the armed militia groups patrolling Bunkerville have already caused them to lose more than $100,000 in revenue."

Now that is a lot of fucking money in such a short time. Those must be 5 star hotels. I hadn't realized Bunkerville was a hot spot for the rich and famous to hang out.

But the article said it was true so it must be. [8|]

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ORIGINAL: joether

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
Look, I have long raged against right wing extremist militias and the various movements they represent, but I have to point out the following:
1) there have been no armed checkpoints set up on public roads, highways
2) with the exception of an incident at an LDS church, since the BLM backed off, there have been no armed confrontations with law enforcement.
3) despite reports to the contrary, made by democrat senators and congressmen, and backed up by liberal websites that are doing the same bullshit as infomars and before its news, there have been no confirmed acts indicating an armed insurrection is actually going on.
So why I do believe there is more than enough justification for a DOJ move on the property and its occupants, strictly on violations of court orders and preventing agents of the government from doing their duty, there is no justification for an armed military move on the Bundy ranch.
What I think is funny is that there are people quoting liberal webpages that are no better than Limbaugh, Beck and others, while they complained about those pundits being quoted as fact by conservatives.

You don't understand, the article said it was true so it has to be. After all according to it....
"Hotels in Mesquite are reporting that the armed militia groups patrolling Bunkerville have already caused them to lose more than $100,000 in revenue."
Now that is a lot of fucking money in such a short time. Those must be 5 star hotels. I hadn't realized Bunkerville was a hot spot for the rich and famous to hang out.
But the article said it was true so it must be. [8|]

Your forgetting that in the tourism business, they look at future sales, not just current customers. People typically have to pay in advance for rooms at a hotel, particularly with large groups of people. Its approaching 'RV Season' as well. People will shy away from areas in which arm conflict could take place.
Likewise, local businesses maybe getting an elevated boost, or might not, if these militias are keeping citizens fearful enough. Hard to say without being on the ground there.
$100K seems a....bit...high. Then again, $50K seems too low, given circumstances.

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Average for a hotel around that area is $75. thats only a little less than 1400 room rents over the period, 100K is not too high by a damn site.

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ORIGINAL: joether

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
Look, I have long raged against right wing extremist militias and the various movements they represent, but I have to point out the following:

1) there have been no armed checkpoints set up on public roads, highways

2) with the exception of an incident at an LDS church, since the BLM backed off, there have been no armed confrontations with law enforcement.

3) despite reports to the contrary, made by democrat senators and congressmen, and backed up by liberal websites that are doing the same bullshit as infomars and before its news, there have been no confirmed acts indicating an armed insurrection is actually going on.

So why I do believe there is more than enough justification for a DOJ move on the property and its occupants, strictly on violations of court orders and preventing agents of the government from doing their duty, there is no justification for an armed military move on the Bundy ranch.

What I think is funny is that there are people quoting liberal webpages that are no better than Limbaugh, Beck and others, while they complained about those pundits being quoted as fact by conservatives.

You don't understand, the article said it was true so it has to be. After all according to it....

"Hotels in Mesquite are reporting that the armed militia groups patrolling Bunkerville have already caused them to lose more than $100,000 in revenue."

Now that is a lot of fucking money in such a short time. Those must be 5 star hotels. I hadn't realized Bunkerville was a hot spot for the rich and famous to hang out.

But the article said it was true so it must be. [8|]

Your forgetting that in the tourism business, they look at future sales, not just current customers. People typically have to pay in advance for rooms at a hotel, particularly with large groups of people. Its approaching 'RV Season' as well. People will shy away from areas in which arm conflict could take place.

Likewise, local businesses maybe getting an elevated boost, or might not, if these militias are keeping citizens fearful enough. Hard to say without being on the ground there.

$100K seems a....bit...high. Then again, $50K seems too low, given circumstances.

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi
The article said it had already caused them to lose more than 100,000 in revenue, nothing mentioned about projections. As for RV season, just how much do you think they charge for a spot? Sorry to disagree but it sounds like the guy is lying through his teeth to see how many people he can get to believe his shit. And I have to say he got the OP if no one else.

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi
The article said it had already caused them to lose more than 100,000 in revenue, nothing mentioned about projections. As for RV season, just how much do you think they charge for a spot? Sorry to disagree but it sounds like the guy is lying through his teeth to see how many people he can get to believe his shit. And I have to say he got the OP if no one else.

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
USA PATRIOT Act, acts of domestic terrorism are those which: "(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State; (B) appear to be intended— (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and (C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States."

There is only one point that these nuts have done to be labeled as domestic terrorists that would allow the DHS to act.

Now remember, the DHS oversees FEMA, and FEMA could not handle a disaster worth a shit.

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

~ FR ~
Right-Wing Militias Terrorize Nevada Citizens ~Addicting Info
Bunkerville Held Hostage By Extremist Militia Members ~Crooks and Liars
An emotional crowd gathered for a town hall meeting on Thursday evening in Bunkerville. Residents and council members praised militia members gathered there in support of embattled rancher Cliven Bundy, but had nothing but vitriol for the Bureau of Land Management (BLM), Clark County Sheriff Doug Gillespie and the local and national media...
The meeting was standing-room only. City council members had harsh criticism for the media's take on the standoff between Bundy and the BLM. "I heard things said down there. And then when it came out on the air it was a completely different animal," Bunkerville Councilman Duane Magoon said. ~KVVU-TV Local
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