jlf1961
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Look, I have long raged against right wing extremist militias and the various movements they represent, but I have to point out the following:
1) there have been no armed checkpoints set up on public roads, highways
2) with the exception of an incident at an LDS church, since the BLM backed off, there have been no armed confrontations with law enforcement.
3) despite reports to the contrary, made by democrat senators and congressmen, and backed up by liberal websites that are doing the same bullshit as infomars and before its news, there have been no confirmed acts indicating an armed insurrection is actually going on.
So why I do believe there is more than enough justification for a DOJ move on the property and its occupants, strictly on violations of court orders and preventing agents of the government from doing their duty, there is no justification for an armed military move on the Bundy ranch.
What I think is funny is that there are people quoting liberal webpages that are no better than Limbaugh, Beck and others, while they complained about those pundits being quoted as fact by conservatives.
I posted a confirmed instance in the other thread where the militia goons stopped a rancher on a public highway with guns drawn. That is certainly way past legal.
I read it, and I also noted that no legal investigation has taken place, although those involved were named by Bundy himself.
Either Clark County Sheriff's department and the Metro police are totally inept or there is some question about the exact location of the vehicle stopped. NO if there is no doubt and illegal act took place, and the locals feel that they cannot make an arrest, they have the right to ask for Federal assistance.
Federal assistance would take the form of FBI or Federal Marshal tactical response teams making a raid and arrest. Which of course would allow the DOJ and DHS to justify the millions of rounds of ammo purchased over the last year to the right wing extremist conspiracy theorists.
As for calling these militia members terrorists, evidently no one at the Federal level has made that determination, if they had, then the Department of Homeland Security could move on the Bundy ranch with every asset at its disposal.
USA PATRIOT Act, acts of domestic terrorism are those which: "(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State; (B) appear to be intended— (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and (C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States."
There is only one point that these nuts have done to be labeled as domestic terrorists that would allow the DHS to act.
Now remember, the DHS oversees FEMA, and FEMA could not handle a disaster worth a shit.
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