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Some Good News for A Change.... - 5/16/2014 9:51:44 AM   
joether


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Status: offline 		Mayo Clinic researchers announced a landmark study where a massive dose of the measles vaccine, enough to inoculate 10 million people, wiped out a Minnesota woman's incurable blood cancer.

Anything that wipes out this dreadful disease is good news for mankind. I know many good people that have cancers of one type or another. Hopefully things go very well for those tests by the FDA.



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RE: Some Good News for A Change.... - 5/16/2014 11:02:37 AM   
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But seriously, this is good news.

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RE: Some Good News for A Change.... - 5/16/2014 11:37:57 AM   
chatterbox24


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Status: offline 		Wow that's wonderful news. Sometimes, good things come from horrible tragedies. This would be one of them.

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RE: Some Good News for A Change.... - 5/16/2014 4:01:54 PM   
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Mayo Clinic researchers announced a landmark study where a massive dose of the measles vaccine, enough to inoculate 10 million people, wiped out a Minnesota woman's incurable blood cancer.

Wanna tie that in to politics or religion, cuz yanno.....

K.

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RE: Some Good News for A Change.... - 5/16/2014 4:05:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		The state has a democratic governor, senate, and house, you dont see any cancer cures with measles in the red states. Howz that for a political tie-in? They also went whole hog on the medicaid expansion too, unlike the red states.

I blame it all on Obamacare.


Now we got us a political tie in and a bitchfight.

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RE: Some Good News for A Change.... - 5/16/2014 4:25:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hmmm... Ten million units? That's a heck of a lot. Even if they can produce that much for general use, one wonders how a body will react to a mega-slam like that? Still, let's HOPE it works! BTW, Otter, I'll raise you by blaming Obamacare for the last lunar eclipse. Top that, buddy!

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RE: Some Good News for A Change.... - 5/16/2014 5:18:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		The cool thing about this treatment is they selectively engineered the virus to target the cancer.

This had been previously done in mice.

The not so cool downside - with an active immune system you have to surpress in order for the viruses to do their work.
Still .. amazing science.

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RE: Some Good News for A Change.... - 5/16/2014 8:13:09 PM   
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The cool thing about this treatment is they selectively engineered the virus to target the cancer.

This had been previously done in mice.

The not so cool downside - with an active immune system you have to surpress in order for the viruses to do their work.
Still .. amazing science.


From what I understand of the article, they picked candidates whose immune system was basically compromised. The injection of a virus to directly attack the cancer creates a triggered response by the body to create more activity to fight of the virus as normal.

This process has only been used in animals prior to this experiment. Scientists have long suspected such a process could work, but needed circumstances to fall into the right favor to try it. If this was the start of the cure for cancer, those doctors will have medical schools named after them!


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RE: Some Good News for A Change.... - 5/17/2014 7:08:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DaNewAgeViking
BTW, Otter, I'll raise you by blaming Obamacare for the last lunar eclipse. Top that, buddy!


Spiders in the basement, think about it, have you ever seen spiders in the basement before his birth in kenya in 1960? If so, do you have any credible citations of it that are not from the 'liberal media'?

I think we are seing cause and effect here.


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RE: Some Good News for A Change.... - 5/17/2014 7:41:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		USA Today has their typical buzz words but no credible information. No mention of what type of cancer. Most don't realize that "cancer" is a description of a symptom not a certain disease. "Cancer" means uncontrolled runaway cell growth. Some cancers are viral in origin, some are from DNA damage, and others are caused by exposure to UV radiation. Some are even brought on by chemical exposures.

It may be they were giving a very very vague take on human trials of virally targeted radionuclide therapy. I saw that in a laboratory about a decade ago. (My job was receipt checks on the shipments of radionuclides the lab was using.) The idea was to find a virus that targets the organ that displays a certain type of cancer. Then, tag the virus with radionuclides. When you give the virus to a creature, the virus would concentrate the radionuclide on the organ that has the cancer.

This allows for use of low energy radionuclide that don't irradiate a lot of surrounding tissue the way more conventional radiotherapy does. Yea, fewer bald and burned cancer patients.

But, back to the article... not enough information in that lame USA Today article to know what the heck they were really talking about.

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RE: Some Good News for A Change.... - 5/17/2014 7:48:21 AM   
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Here is a little more detail from the Strib:
http://www.startribune.com/lifestyle/health/259155541.html

I am pretty sure you could go to the Mayo site and read the sodacracker dry details in fractal and mandelbrot excrutiatingly minuteness if you want.


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RE: Some Good News for A Change.... - 5/17/2014 10:51:39 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DaNewAgeViking
BTW, Otter, I'll raise you by blaming Obamacare for the last lunar eclipse. Top that, buddy!


Spiders in the basement, think about it, have you ever seen spiders in the basement before his birth in kenya in 1960? If so, do you have any credible citations of it that are not from the 'liberal media'?

I think we are seing cause and effect here.


Oh, you wanna get rough, huh? All right, I'll raise by blaming Obama for the Titanic disaster. How is the Navy supposed to keep the high seas free of icebergs with a 'softy' in the White House? Eh?

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RE: Some Good News for A Change.... - 5/17/2014 10:57:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thats awesome news....hopefully it will help many people soon...my grandma, as well as the husband of my mums cousin, died on incurable blood cancer...

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RE: Some Good News for A Change.... - 5/17/2014 1:24:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MercTech

USA Today has their typical buzz words but no credible information. No mention of what type of cancer. Most don't realize that "cancer" is a description of a symptom not a certain disease. "Cancer" means uncontrolled runaway cell growth. Some cancers are viral in origin, some are from DNA damage, and others are caused by exposure to UV radiation. Some are even brought on by chemical exposures.

It may be they were giving a very very vague take on human trials of virally targeted radionuclide therapy. I saw that in a laboratory about a decade ago. (My job was receipt checks on the shipments of radionuclides the lab was using.) The idea was to find a virus that targets the organ that displays a certain type of cancer. Then, tag the virus with radionuclides. When you give the virus to a creature, the virus would concentrate the radionuclide on the organ that has the cancer.

This allows for use of low energy radionuclide that don't irradiate a lot of surrounding tissue the way more conventional radiotherapy does. Yea, fewer bald and burned cancer patients.

But, back to the article... not enough information in that lame USA Today article to know what the heck they were really talking about.

Reading the article at the mayo website this isn't radionuclide therapy but an engineered virus that selectively attacks the tumor cells only.
http://www.mayoclinicproceedings.org/

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RE: Some Good News for A Change.... - 5/17/2014 4:52:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: joether

Mayo Clinic researchers announced a landmark study where a massive dose of the measles vaccine, enough to inoculate 10 million people, wiped out a Minnesota woman's incurable blood cancer.

Anything that wipes out this dreadful disease is good news for mankind. I know many good people that have cancers of one type or another. Hopefully things go very well for those tests by the FDA.



WOW!!!! Who fucking figured THAT out????

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RE: Some Good News for A Change.... - 5/18/2014 11:31:09 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

MT,


Here is a little more detail from the Strib:
http://www.startribune.com/lifestyle/health/259155541.html

I am pretty sure you could go to the Mayo site and read the sodacracker dry details in fractal and mandelbrot excrutiatingly minuteness if you want.



http://www.mayoclinic.org/medical-professionals/clinical-updates/neurosciences/update-measles-virus-novel-therapy-glioblastoma

Ok, measles virus targets glioblastoma.
Good news on that but not the humongous universal cure for all cancers that the sloppy USA Today article inferred.


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