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RE: Bring back execution by firing squad? - 5/19/2014 10:00:16 PM   
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I take it that my idea for the punishment of sexual predators would be unacceptable?

My system would involve establishing a nature preserve for endangered predators (so this would be the perfect place for such individuals) like the American crocodile, Puma concolor, swamp bears, the jaguar, the American alligator, use recovered DNA to reintroduce Smilodon, the Canis dirus, and various other predator and prey species, surround the preserve with 25 foot high game fencing (dont want the crocs jumping the fence.)

Now we will provide humane living quarters with all the comforts of home, and established resupply points around the preserve, of course the inmates would have to walk to these points, and they should be at least a 6 day round trip.

Now since we have placed prey animals for the predators to hunt, the inmates should be safe.

It would be better than nailing them to the floor of a rotting shack using a nail gun to nail their penis to the floor, leaving them a rusty, dull knife and setting the shack on fire.


ever heard George Carlin's state farm prisons?

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RE: Bring back execution by firing squad? - 5/19/2014 10:11:18 PM   
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Why the need for a squad? With budget cuts, seems a lone shooter would do the trick.



My understanding of firing squads was that one shooter always had dummy rounds - and no one knew which one - so that if the verdict/sentence was wrong, no one could be prosecuted for murder for doing "their job".







Screen captures still RULE! Ya feel me?

My understanding was that with a blank each member of the firing squad
could tell himself that the blank was in his gun.


That, too but I thought it was for legal ramifications, as well.







Screen captures still RULE! Ya feel me?

Could be, at least in some places.

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RE: Bring back execution by firing squad? - 5/19/2014 11:25:05 PM   
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Why not make use of them ? There are a hell of a lot of mines in different countries around this ball of mud, that need lifting and defusing and a lot can't be detected electronically. Why should be risk the lives of our soldiers and/or dogs when there are pieces of living garbage that can do the job and provide some entertainment and enjoyment for onlookers at the same time. Maybe charge admission to watch them and make a profit out of the whole deal too ?

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RE: Bring back execution by firing squad? - 5/19/2014 11:25:11 PM   
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So here is a fun little story from the BBC, about proposals to dump lethal injection as a method of execution, and go back to the quicker and more sure fire method of a firing squad.

The story is elsewhere as well, but since a good reason the recent Oklahoma delivery of justice was messed up was because European companies decided to play around in our policies, they seem the right source to me.

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-27303555

To my mind, a properly done hanging (the neck snaps, severs the spinal cord, and death is quick) is a bit more humane. It's even the green and sustainable method, since you can re-use the rope. Unfortunately, hanging is so racially stigmatized that simply tying the right knot is considered a hate crime in some places.

Rifles will get the job done, if they need to.


The guillotine seems pretty quick and painless. At least, it seems more of a "sure thing" than hanging, which can sometimes be botched.

If it was me this would be the method of execution I would choose.



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RE: Bring back execution by firing squad? - 5/19/2014 11:29:13 PM   
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why does it need to be painless ? A lot of those condemned never gave a rat's ass about their victim's pain.The minefield still seems a good idea with a lot going for it.

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RE: Bring back execution by firing squad? - 5/19/2014 11:40:14 PM   
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The costs would be minimal with my idea...................just the price of a VERY highly magnetised, long bladed steel knife.

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RE: Bring back execution by firing squad? - 5/19/2014 11:49:20 PM   
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why does it need to be painless ? A lot of those condemned never gave a rat's ass about their victim's pain.The minefield still seems a good idea with a lot going for it.



Well, I suppose so, although if we really want to get imaginative, we could go "The Running Man" approach.



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RE: Bring back execution by firing squad? - 5/20/2014 4:47:07 AM   
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actually JlF, when I saw that done in the Congo, the guy was left with a very sharp razor but it had been left in the corpse of a dead snake for a couple of days. He wasn't nailed either................he had a very tight padlock fitted behind his scrotum which was attached to a length of chain attached which in it's turn was attached to the main roof-beam. The guy who set it up was a seemingly mild-mannered little Swiss guy who said that even if he DID get free and didn't bleed to death, the blood poisoning should get him within 24 hours. Then he set fire to the building and we left.



Wow that sounds very interesting. But it does raise a couple of questions. For instance, did you always carry around a razor inside a dead snake on the off chance you might get to try this out or is there another reason for keeping a blade like that? Same with the padlock. Did you keep a supply for locking up balls (I would think that size lock wouldn't be much good for anything else) and what happens if you the enemy is female. And last but certainly not least, what did the guy do to deserve this? Where you at war at the time or fighting for a cause and do you ever hear him scream at night when you go to bed.

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RE: Bring back execution by firing squad? - 5/20/2014 4:50:58 AM   
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so just to be clear... the fact a person due to a mistake had his last costitutional right left infringed, makes you think why don't we just get rid of that 8th amendment?

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RE: Bring back execution by firing squad? - 5/20/2014 5:59:03 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Zonie63


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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

So here is a fun little story from the BBC, about proposals to dump lethal injection as a method of execution, and go back to the quicker and more sure fire method of a firing squad.

The story is elsewhere as well, but since a good reason the recent Oklahoma delivery of justice was messed up was because European companies decided to play around in our policies, they seem the right source to me.

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-27303555

To my mind, a properly done hanging (the neck snaps, severs the spinal cord, and death is quick) is a bit more humane. It's even the green and sustainable method, since you can re-use the rope. Unfortunately, hanging is so racially stigmatized that simply tying the right knot is considered a hate crime in some places.

Rifles will get the job done, if they need to.


The guillotine seems pretty quick and painless. At least, it seems more of a "sure thing" than hanging, which can sometimes be botched.

If it was me this would be the method of execution I would choose.

Why would you run away from the girls chasing you?

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RE: Bring back execution by firing squad? - 5/20/2014 6:00:25 AM   
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why does it need to be painless ? A lot of those condemned never gave a rat's ass about their victim's pain.The minefield still seems a good idea with a lot going for it.

Read the Bill of Rights.

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RE: Bring back execution by firing squad? - 5/20/2014 6:15:52 AM   
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Thishereboi, wow, I had the same questions exactly. Amazing. But ya know me and my dog are over here......
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actually JlF, when I saw that done in the Congo, the guy was left with a very sharp razor but it had been left in the corpse of a dead snake for a couple of days. He wasn't nailed either................he had a very tight padlock fitted behind his scrotum which was attached to a length of chain attached which in it's turn was attached to the main roof-beam. The guy who set it up was a seemingly mild-mannered little Swiss guy who said that even if he DID get free and didn't bleed to death, the blood poisoning should get him within 24 hours. Then he set fire to the building and we left.



Wow that sounds very interesting. But it does raise a couple of questions. For instance, did you always carry around a razor inside a dead snake on the off chance you might get to try this out or is there another reason for keeping a blade like that? Same with the padlock. Did you keep a supply for locking up balls (I would think that size lock wouldn't be much good for anything else) and what happens if you the enemy is female. And last but certainly not least, what did the guy do to deserve this? Where you at war at the time or fighting for a cause and do you ever hear him scream at night when you go to bed.






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RE: Bring back execution by firing squad? - 5/20/2014 6:23:07 AM   
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Bring back the electric chair. That's how Bundy got it. Some of these assholes deserve a more gruesome end.


No. They'd want it to be solar or wind power. Then, there would be issues with it not being sunny/windy enough, and the criminal was being juiced, but not enough, and we're back to where we are now.




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RE: Bring back execution by firing squad? - 5/20/2014 6:40:49 AM   
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The story is elsewhere as well, but since a good reason the recent Oklahoma delivery of justice was messed up was because European companies decided to play around in our policies,


Any validation for this insipid moronic ignorant unsubstantiated opinion?


To my mind,

Assumes facts not in evidence.


It's even the green and sustainable method, since you can re-use the rope.


No you can't. The length of rope is unique to the mass of the victim.
Besides the "squick" factor there are the laws of physics that make untying the knot difficult.


Unfortunately, hanging is so racially stigmatized that simply tying the right knot is considered a hate crime in some places.

Really???where????



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RE: Bring back execution by firing squad? - 5/20/2014 6:42:03 AM   
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Some of these assholes deserve a more gruesome end.


Are there any other parts of the constitution of my country you would like to wipe your ass on?

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RE: Bring back execution by firing squad? - 5/20/2014 6:43:14 AM   
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Well, the NRA would be all for it.

I don't know, have you seen how outrageous ammo prices are these days? Maybe they should use defenestration instead. Gravity is free.



Chucking someone out of a basement window doesn't seem lethal?

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RE: Bring back execution by firing squad? - 5/20/2014 6:44:15 AM   
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I take it that my idea for the punishment of sexual predators would be unacceptable?

My system would involve establishing a nature preserve for endangered predators (so this would be the perfect place for such individuals) like the American crocodile, Puma concolor, swamp bears, the jaguar, the American alligator, use recovered DNA to reintroduce Smilodon, the Canis dirus, and various other predator and prey species, surround the preserve with 25 foot high game fencing (dont want the crocs jumping the fence.)

Now we will provide humane living quarters with all the comforts of home, and established resupply points around the preserve, of course the inmates would have to walk to these points, and they should be at least a 6 day round trip.

Now since we have placed prey animals for the predators to hunt, the inmates should be safe.

It would be better than nailing them to the floor of a rotting shack using a nail gun to nail their penis to the floor, leaving them a rusty, dull knife and setting the shack on fire.



Are threre any other parts of the constitution of my country you would like to wipe your ass on?

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RE: Bring back execution by firing squad? - 5/20/2014 6:46:36 AM   
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Use AK's. Soviet surplus 7.62 x 39 is running about 23 cents a round when you buy it by the 1000 round box.

You are obviously shopping in the wrong store...How much of dat shit you want for a dime a round?

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RE: Bring back execution by firing squad? - 5/20/2014 6:47:17 AM   
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Is it a coincidence that those who are proposing (in often lurid detail) the various methods of executing convicted offenders are invariably the same posters who consistently defend the gun mania aka Second Amendment rights that infects various segments of the US population?

If you feel it isn't a coincidence, I'd like to hear your reasons why you feel that way, if you'd care to share them ....

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RE: Bring back execution by firing squad? - 5/20/2014 7:14:31 AM   
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I take it that my idea for the punishment of sexual predators would be unacceptable?

My system would involve establishing a nature preserve for endangered predators (so this would be the perfect place for such individuals) like the American crocodile, Puma concolor, swamp bears, the jaguar, the American alligator, use recovered DNA to reintroduce Smilodon, the Canis dirus, and various other predator and prey species, surround the preserve with 25 foot high game fencing (dont want the crocs jumping the fence.)

Now we will provide humane living quarters with all the comforts of home, and established resupply points around the preserve, of course the inmates would have to walk to these points, and they should be at least a 6 day round trip.

Now since we have placed prey animals for the predators to hunt, the inmates should be safe.

It would be better than nailing them to the floor of a rotting shack using a nail gun to nail their penis to the floor, leaving them a rusty, dull knife and setting the shack on fire.



Are threre any other parts of the constitution of my country you would like to wipe your ass on?


Thompon, have you ever come face to face with a rape victim immediately after the fact? Or been the first leo on the scene of a dead body call and find the nude body of a 13 year old girl that had been raped and then stabbed to death?

Maybe you should read about how sexual predators start with something as simple as peeping in windows and eventually escalate to rape, torture and murder?

How about the nice guys that rape and murder children to get their rocks off?

How would you deal with the animal that so violently raped and tortured a woman that 20 years later she still does not leave her home because she is terrified?

I know, send them to prison, feed them 3 good meals a day, give them free medical care, and house them, so that after they have served their time in prison they are free to go and do it all over again.

Read up on John Albert Gardner, who after being sent to jail for molesting a young girl was evaluated as a danger to society, released after a few years, who then raped and murdered two teen girls, and looks to be linked to more crimes.

Oh, by all means treat these misunderstood men with all the humane treatment and compassion they did not show their victims.

For the record, I support the death penalty, and in my opinion, this humane lethal injection bullshit is not justified with these animals. Yes I know there is no proof the death penalty is a deterrent to crime, it is not meant to be, it is meant to remove animals from society.

Would you say it is cruel to send a letter to a rapist's victim informing her that her attacker is soon to be released from prison and will be returning to the same town she lives in? That is what we are doing.

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