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RE: Severe Punishment/Abuse - 7/3/2014 12:19:39 PM

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ORIGINAL: Arturas

So, if the Dom is poorly trained or unskilled then it's abusive? What about the stupid sub who lets this idiot tie her up? I say she should be beaten. Severely.

I get it. If the dominant is poorly trained or unskilled it is the submissives fault. In which case you endorse severe abuse.

I have got to start writing this shit down.

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RE: Severe Punishment/Abuse - 7/3/2014 12:30:00 PM

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When I say Severe meaning beat til very bloody, Yes that is the Severe I am describing.

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RE: Severe Punishment/Abuse - 7/3/2014 1:00:30 PM

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When being punished it is supposed to be cruel.

Why is it supposed to be cruel? Speaking for myself, the only thing being cruel would get him is me building resentment and fear towards him and me walking out the door forever. How healthy is any relationship if one partner is cruel to the other and/or if one partner fears the other? I've been disciplined but he's never been cruel and I wouldn't put up with him being cruel.

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RE: Severe Punishment/Abuse - 7/3/2014 1:16:49 PM

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ORIGINAL: Ladytisha

When I say Severe meaning beat til very bloody, Yes that is the Severe I am describing.

OK, we get it.

When beating someone until they are very bloody, I think that if the person has not given their expressed consent to being beaten until they are bleeding then it is abuse. The bad part about that is the fact that if they are bleeding bad enough, this may warrant a trip to the hospital, and then that decision might no longer be up to you, but the doctors and the police.

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RE: Severe Punishment/Abuse - 7/3/2014 5:41:06 PM

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Well, a good limit if the beating is bloody is to ensure that the blood lost doesn't exceed about 6 quarts, because submissives without any blood in their bodies tend not to serve their Doms well.

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RE: Severe Punishment/Abuse - 7/3/2014 6:41:38 PM

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~FRing it~

It becomes abuse when you cross over the boundary set forth in the person's consent to you. I could tell you peeling the skin off someone's ass as you beat the shit out of them isn't abuse, but are you going to go based of what I think...or what the person whom you are doing this to thinks?

This isn't a general consensus type question, OP. It's very subjective and specific to the person being punished. One size does not fit all

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RE: Severe Punishment/Abuse - 7/3/2014 6:44:43 PM

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The question was a no way one size fits all, it would be crazy of me to assume. Was plain and simply asking a question.

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RE: Severe Punishment/Abuse - 7/3/2014 6:54:59 PM

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Right there with ya.

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ORIGINAL: Arturas

So, if the Dom is poorly trained or unskilled then it's abusive? What about the stupid sub who lets this idiot tie her up? I say she should be beaten. Severely.

I get it. If the dominant is poorly trained or unskilled it is the submissives fault. In which case you endorse severe abuse.

I have got to start writing this shit down.

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RE: Severe Punishment/Abuse - 7/6/2014 11:54:13 PM

alumina

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Abuse starts when consent ends.

I fully agree with this. Even if you are a M/s couple, and your Master is giving you a well deserved beating, he should always know when your breaking point is. While he might flex it a bit, he should never go to the point that he is breaking you as his submissive.. Physically or mentally. For each individual it is different. I love bloodiness, and hardcore beatings.. I love big bruises, and cane marks.. Has anyone ever abused me? No, because that is all within my comfort zone. For other's that could be considered abuse, it could be considered wrong.. but that is their opinion based off their limits. Your limits and opinion is completely up to you, and should be discussed with your Dominant.

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