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MistressDarkArt -> Irritating Cat Behavior...Help Please! (5/22/2014 11:27:08 PM)

Background:

I rescued 9-year old Yogi from the pound when he was about 4. He'd been dumped in the night drop with absolutely no information about his history.

It soon became apparent he'd been an indoor/outdoor cat. The outdoor part would have to change. Though he had the run of the whole house and his outdoor 'catiary' 24/7, he yowled and yowled day and night to go out and never adjusted to being confined. This cat is the most obnoxiously LOUD I have ever heard. He was neutered when I got him, but my guess is he was fully mature before neutering which I'm sure contributes to his desire to wander.

He made a game of rushing the door and sometimes slipped out when I didn't see him. He always came back on his own, except for one terrifying incident about 18 months ago where he escaped and was found 24 hours later more than 1/2 mile from home where the state park begins. There had been a horrible hail storm and he was soaked, disoriented, and traumatized. Other than the storm, I don't know what happened to him but I think it involved coyotes, bobcats or mountain lions. I was hoping he'd settle down after that, but alas...no.

I experimented with letting him out supervised in the yard because he drove me absolutely batsh*t crazy with his incessant yowling if I didn't. Mostly he was very good about staying in his domain and letting me bring him back in after a few minutes. He caught gophers and lizards, and basically lived for his few minutes of daily liberty. When he finally settled down afterwards, he was a great cuddly guy and model citizen who got along with his two 'brothers'. The other two boys would like to go out into the yard, but I don't let them and they've adjusted pretty well with almost zero hassle.

Lately, Yogi's been jumping the fence out of my reach and heading off to make his rounds somewhere. He's outside the safety zone, and his 2 brothers (who are also confined to the catiary and house) freak out when he's roaming and get agitated so it turns into an effing cat-cophony which drives me crazy and probably doesn't endear me or my cats to the neighbors.

The whole routine makes me nuts, and I know I made a mess of this to begin with by caving in to his demands for outside time, even if limited. What's done is done in that regard, and we have to find a better way now.

I tried all kinds of homeopathic stuff like Felliway to chill him out and to date nothing has worked. Finding him another home where he can be outside is not an option. With his issues and age now, he's not readily adoptable. He's part of this family, and his brothers would be heart-broken if he went to live elsewhere (so would I).

I could get really sh*tty and start using a squirt bottle on him when he yowls to go out, but if anyone can think of a better way to help him cope (and ME!), I'd really appreciate it.

Here's a pic of the catiary. As you can see, there's plenty of room to run around with his mates and they have a lot of safe fun out there. They can't get out, and bad things can't get to them.

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MistressDarkArt -> RE: Irritating Cat Behavior...Help Please! (5/22/2014 11:28:08 PM)

Trying again with pic.

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MistressDarkArt -> RE: Irritating Cat Behavior...Help Please! (5/22/2014 11:34:43 PM)

Yogi the yowler:

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MyMadeleine -> RE: Irritating Cat Behavior...Help Please! (5/23/2014 12:16:58 AM)

I am so jealous of that cat space.

If you haven't tried yet perhaps adding different stimulants to inside the confined area? Maybe what's available isn't quite working for him. Or place him on a leash and have him lead you around so that you can see what draws him and try to replicate it at home?




LafayetteLady -> RE: Irritating Cat Behavior...Help Please! (5/23/2014 10:23:17 AM)

Cats are smart. You've had him for 5 years and haven't changed him. Odds are you aren't going to. While he may have been momentarily "tramatized" it obviously wasn't as serious as you thought or he would rethink his desire to go out.

My baby was a stray that adopted me. For the first couple yearrs she happily was an indoor cat. Then one day she decided she needed to roam again. For a cat, a half mile isn't far and without that hail storm or being found would have returned when he was ready. My girl always does and yes when she is gone longer than usual, I can get freaked. I always worry about her when she's out but its sometthing she seems to need.

Of course I don't have two others she is making jealous by telling them tales of her adventures.

Have you asked your vet for advice?




chatterbox24 -> RE: Irritating Cat Behavior...Help Please! (5/23/2014 11:02:59 AM)

My cats jump the fence all the time, 6 foot tall. They love to walk the fence and show off too. Sometimes they take off for 5 to 6 hours then come home to eat. One is content to just be yard bound. But they love the freedom, they have claws so I take my chances. I had a yawler too until I gave her her freedom now she is content and never does it unless she is out of food. Then everyone knows this!!!!




MistressDarkArt -> RE: Irritating Cat Behavior...Help Please! (5/23/2014 12:59:44 PM)

Everyone, thanks for your input. I have a call in to the vet. If we come across something that works (for now, merely showing the squirt bottle is working every time!) I'll update here.





Kaliko -> RE: Irritating Cat Behavior...Help Please! (5/23/2014 1:41:42 PM)

I don't have any advice. I used a squirt bottle to keep my cats behavior in check and eventually the one cat just gritted her teeth and took the hit. But I just want to say...I LOVE your cat space.




SalaciousKitten -> RE: Irritating Cat Behavior...Help Please! (5/23/2014 1:59:12 PM)

Love your cattery, it's perfect.... Wish I had one like it.....




FieryOpal -> RE: Irritating Cat Behavior...Help Please! (5/23/2014 9:15:33 PM)

Your Yogi has the regal, intelligent look of an Abyssinian, the same eyes and musculature - but not over-sized ears - with similar coloring (minus tabby striping).

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ORIGINAL: MistressDarkArt
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His explorative wanderlust is part of his nature, and he needs to maintain a larger territory than your property limitations will allow, especially sharing with two other male cats. Love your cat enclosure, which most housecats would be content to stay within for hours on end.

Does this describe his personality? “a very people-oriented cat. Not a lap cat…but a cat that likes to be with people, a cat that wants to know what you are doing – that wants to help. There is probably no breed anywhere more loyal..."
The Abyssinian

There are ginger cat treats which have a calming effect, and this might help out some when he starts getting frisky.




DomKen -> RE: Irritating Cat Behavior...Help Please! (5/23/2014 9:58:37 PM)

How much time do you spend playing with/exercising the cat? He clearly is used to hunting so get one of those fishing pole cat toys and wear him out every day and see if he still yowls.




MistressDarkArt -> RE: Irritating Cat Behavior...Help Please! (5/23/2014 11:52:29 PM)


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ORIGINAL: SalaciousKitten

Love your cattery, it's perfect.... Wish I had one like it.....


Thank you! I've since changed out the opaque roof for a clear one. Plenty of sunshine now, and when the boys want shade they hang out on the cool brick floor under the lounge chairs.

I put an ad on Craigslist for someone to help design and build it. A nice young man and his buddy took the job. They lived out in the country so were able to get the oak branches from their property.

It was about 9 days of watching these luscious guys working shirts off in Stetsons all day in the warm summer sun, addressing me as ma'am. If I'd been only 10 years younger...[:D][8D]





MistressDarkArt -> RE: Irritating Cat Behavior...Help Please! (5/23/2014 11:57:55 PM)


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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal

Your Yogi has the regal, intelligent look of an Abyssinian, the same eyes and musculature - but not over-sized ears - with similar coloring (minus tabby striping).

<snip>
Does this describe his personality? “a very people-oriented cat. Not a lap cat…but a cat that likes to be with people, a cat that wants to know what you are doing – that wants to help. There is probably no breed anywhere more loyal..."
The Abyssinian

There are ginger cat treats which have a calming effect, and this might help out some when he starts getting frisky.


He's indeed a people cat, especially men. Guessing he was previously owned by a man, probably on ranch property around here where he could wander at will. When I adopted him, he had a broken tail from an accident or attack. That is part of the reason I'm so protective of him; I don't want him injured again.

I will look for the ginger treats; he eats what I eat, the spicier the better so he may like those. Thank you for the suggestion.

I forgot to mention because of the probable late neutering, he still thinks he's intact and humps his leopard-pattern pillow almost every night, the freak!


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MistressDarkArt -> RE: Irritating Cat Behavior...Help Please! (5/24/2014 12:11:38 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen

How much time do you spend playing with/exercising the cat? He clearly is used to hunting so get one of those fishing pole cat toys and wear him out every day and see if he still yowls.


He's very playful and gets lots of exercise with his brothers every day. They're aerialists scampering from limb to limb and up and down the perches in the catiary, as well as tearing up the house. They chase and wrestle each other constantly. I try to engage them with toys like the fishing pole, but they get bored with something 'specially for them' and start in on each other, or find a Q-tip or hair tie to bat around.

It's possible there's a female in heat somewhere in the neighborhood. That incessant penetrating zombie-like yowling certainly sounds like a mating call. He also shrieks to summon my tenant in the cottage behind the house. He absolutely adores her.

After one squirt of the bottle, we had a better day today. He's starting to learn that 'shhhhhhh' and a blast of cold water go together. Hoping that soon 'shhhhhh' is all it will take. While I'm a sadist, I only enjoy it with consenting humans.




DaddySatyr -> RE: Irritating Cat Behavior...Help Please! (5/24/2014 12:14:02 AM)

Two words: Chinese restaurant.







Screen captures still RULE! Ya feel me?




poise -> RE: Irritating Cat Behavior...Help Please! (5/24/2014 12:16:19 PM)

I love your cat space, and love that you also have some necessary comforts for humans there as well. [;)]
I also noticed what looks like a little box of grass on the right. Is that for the cats specifically, as I know grass
does wonders for the cat's digestion. When I take my cat macho out on his leash, all he ever seems interested
in doing is taking a few steps, then plopping down to eat some grass, then repeats all over again.

I don't suppose your Yogi is howling just for some grass, but it wouldn't hurt to include some if you haven't already.




MistressDarkArt -> RE: Irritating Cat Behavior...Help Please! (5/24/2014 12:19:04 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

Two words: Chinese restaurant.







Screen captures still RULE! Ya feel me?


Heh, he actually LOVES Chinese food. None around here use cats for a protein source. That would make him a cannibal. [:'(]




Worldtravelerxo -> RE: Irritating Cat Behavior...Help Please! (5/24/2014 12:46:50 PM)

I just want I say, thank you for rescuing I work with a K9 rescue but I'm a mom to my 9 year old blue point siamese I've had since he was a baby. You look like an amazing cat mom with that great space for them, I wish I had good advice.. My Buddah loves to talk but Siamese are notoriously vocal..




angelikaJ -> RE: Irritating Cat Behavior...Help Please! (5/24/2014 1:05:08 PM)

Some cats are happy to be out on a leash, and some cats are masters at wriggling out of the kitty harnesses.

There are some tunnels and other similar outdoor cat habitats that allow kitty to be outside yet contained, but since your Yogi loves to wander, maybe he could do it on a leash?




Worldtravelerxo -> RE: Irritating Cat Behavior...Help Please! (5/24/2014 1:25:20 PM)

Let me add to this my cat has annoying iPad jealousy issues.. He bites it and rubs the side of his mouth against it. He also tries to sit on my iPad. Not cute.




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