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'Man attacks woman in park' - 6/18/2014 12:02:02 PM   
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I found the results disappointing. See what you think:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNOTWjIJ58E&index=5&list=TLVKVu9eWufvjaI-aH54Js5CIAp-DJx5d3

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RE: 'Man attacks woman in park' - 6/18/2014 12:12:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		I hope they cleared that with the local police first. I wouldn't physically intervene myself (I don't think, I'd love to say that I would in some circumstances) but I would call the police and have done, in similar circumstances.

I can't say it surprises me though. I've been in a situation where a man was having a heart attack and a crowd gathered round him, but no one made any effort to call an ambulance. One woman was even messing with her phone. If people act like that when there's no personal risk I'm not shocked they're reluctant to intervene when there is a risk of violence.

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RE: 'Man attacks woman in park' - 6/18/2014 12:15:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		To be honest, I wouldn't have identified it as a problem. I couldn't hear what she was saying and seeing people wrestle isn't that uncommon. Now if she had been screaming then I would have looked to see what was happening.

The other thing is that most people believe someone else already called. Kitty Genovese and what is referred to as the bystander effect.

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RE: 'Man attacks woman in park' - 6/18/2014 12:40:53 PM   
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To be honest, I wouldn't have identified it as a problem. I couldn't hear what she was saying and seeing people wrestle isn't that uncommon. Now if she had been screaming then I would have looked to see what was happening.

The other thing is that most people believe someone else already called. Kitty Genovese and what is referred to as the bystander effect.


it's italian so I can traslate, she was saying: "stop it, get away, you are hurting me"

ok she was not screaming but I think it would be common in a simillar real situation when the woman knew the man. I mean the fact she was not screaming would have not stopped me to at least step in and ask what was going on.

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RE: 'Man attacks woman in park' - 6/18/2014 1:01:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		No, I could barely hear her saying anything. I don't usually think of people who are soft spoken as having a problem. It was so low I couldn't even identify that it wasn't English.

Shrill, loud, screaming - all those mean problems to me.

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RE: 'Man attacks woman in park' - 6/18/2014 1:21:16 PM   
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Shrill, loud, screaming - all those mean problems to me.


... As would crying the word 'Help!'.

I think such things make a difference, but threat-level is possibly the most important. The 'attacker' seemed tall, but not particularly strong. The quickest to jump in were the two male friends - they'd have been confident that they could handle him.



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RE: 'Man attacks woman in park' - 6/18/2014 1:40:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would done have something in that situation... kept an eye on him but try to connect with the female.. as I was on the phone with emergency, the way I see it I would rather be the 10th person to call and know I did something than ignore a situation that could easily escalate into more than what I am seeing that the moment... Then again, I am the type to actually pick up hitchhikers as well


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RE: 'Man attacks woman in park' - 6/18/2014 2:35:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		I also found the results disappointing, disturbing actually. It didn't look like a couple fooling around wrestling to me, I would have definitely called the police.









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RE: 'Man attacks woman in park' - 6/18/2014 3:11:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thing is, it often doesn't take much. I think there's an assumption that if you intervene the aggression will get turned on you. But, often, all that's needed is to disrupt the flow of it - get the aggressor to 'snap out of it'.

(Funny, I've just realised: one of the few times I'll address a man as 'Man' is when I see one being aggressive towards a woman. As in, 'What the hell are doing, man?' I did that once in a situation roughly similar to that of this experiment - it worked nicely. Instant sheepishness on his part. Helps if you have my accent, though, I must admit.)

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RE: 'Man attacks woman in park' - 6/18/2014 4:35:58 PM   
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No, I could barely hear her saying anything. I don't usually think of people who are soft spoken as having a problem. It was so low I couldn't even identify that it wasn't English.

Shrill, loud, screaming - all those mean problems to me.


Shrill loud screaming means not only problems but emergency. It was clear that situation was a couple, in a relationship, that was having a fight and the male got phisical, she was not shocked, she was still confrontating the guy, but he clearly decided violence was the right argument. That means problems because to me, so I would not have jumped on him and started a fist fight but I would have approached them in order to give the girl the possibility to recover and get away from the confrontation. The video was about domestic violence not rape, but the latter being horrible doesn't make the first acceptable to me. I confronted people for much less.

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