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How do I protect my heart? - 7/6/2014 7:37:28 AM   
Asfixation


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Hi. I'm back...a new profile and a new beginning. Although Collar has played an important role in my life for over ten years.
Difficult to admit but I feel heart broken. Broken by a slave who used me with such a passive aggression it's difficult to admit.
How to replace him as replace him I must.
What have I learned?
Too many unanswered questions.
How to really trust again?
But I guess the real question is how to find a slave where my heart is not involved.
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RE: How do I protect my heart? - 7/6/2014 8:10:43 AM   
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Well you start by not wearing your heart on your sleeve or your profile.

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RE: How do I protect my heart? - 7/6/2014 8:41:13 AM   
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You don't protect your heart by learning how not to care or how not to take risks. You don't "protect" it at all, really. You live the most robust life you can by learning who to trust (which start by learning what are and are not good reasons to trust and to love someone) and then you do it.

It's tres difficile, as the French say, and most people never get the hang of it. At best it's an awkward and frequently painful process.

As I learned either from reading Nietzsche or watching The Princess Bride, "Anyone who tells you different is selling something."

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RE: How do I protect my heart? - 7/6/2014 9:29:59 AM   
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You trust again by not allowing a hurt from the past dictate your future and how you see others. Remember that someone new in your life is NOT the same person from your past, they're two different people and shouldn't be compared. Don't punish yourself or a new slave for the lies of the past slave, start a new beginning with a clean slate.

Don't ignore any red flags you might see, even if they're slight, pay attention to them.

How to not get your heart involved, building walls up around you can help but do you really not want to involve your heart or are you afraid to involve your heart? There's a difference. If you live your life in fear of being hurt, you're not living, you're simply existing. Heal your past hurts and be honest with yourself about what you want.

Unfortunately there's no guarantee that one's heart won't be broken, it's a risk everyone takes and many have had their heart broken but IMO it's a risk well worth taking. If you don't take the chance, you'll never know what could have been.


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RE: How do I protect my heart? - 7/6/2014 10:12:56 AM   
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.[quote}Well you start by not wearing your heart on your sleeve or your profile][/quote]

There's humour in what you say so thankyou.

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RE: How do I protect my heart? - 7/6/2014 10:16:04 AM   
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I need to figure out how to reply to each person as well. It's been so long since I was here.

What lesson have I learned?
REALLY the first red flag. I should have quit then.


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RE: How do I protect my heart? - 7/6/2014 10:22:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Asfixation

Difficult to admit but I feel heart broken. Broken by a slave who used me with such a passive aggression it's difficult to admit.



Sorry that you got your heart broken. Passive aggression usually has sign rather early on in a relationship. That you had a relationship for 10 years and put up with it for that long would be the cause of concern that I would have. You knew things were bad, or if you did not, you allowed it to continue well past the place it should have. I would start there. Ask yourself, why it took so long to do something about it. Ask yourself why you didn't recognize the warning signs earlier.

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How to replace him as replace him I must.


Why do you need someone in your life? Do you need someone or want someone in your life? Need and want are two different things. I would ask yourself if you need someone or want someone in your life. If you need someone, then that is a problem because you will tend to overlook warning signs because the need is so great. If you want someone however, you can be more patient and selective. Learn to be happy on your own.

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What have I learned?


Of course that is a question that only you can answer, but answer it you should. What did you take away from this experience? What will prevent you from making similar mistakes along the way the next time?

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Too many unanswered questions.


Then slow down and get answers to the questions. I assure you that any amount of haste to get into another relationship will end in disaster without first getting some concrete answers.

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How to really trust again?


You trust again when you are willing to risk being hurt. This is why you must examine if you need someone in your life or if you want someone in your life. You are in control of yourself, or should be anyway. The fact is that if you just got hurt, take time to heal, putting yourself out there to get hurt again before healing from this one is folly; it will take a worse toll the second time around. Love is a risk, trust is a risk, and until you are willing to allow the possibility of having that love or trust betrayed, then don't do something foolish.

I had to work on this for myself. After my divorce I had a lot of different things happen so I needed time to work on myself. During that time I had a few relationships, some were OK, others were fucking disaster, but all of them ended poorly. Because of things in my childhood and things in my marriage and a few things from the relationships, I began to question what love was and if I was even capable of love. I also had to answer the question of whether I needed someone or wanted someone in my life. I realized that I needed to work on myself before anything and that I was unwilling to get hurt again. That meant that I was going to be alone for quite some time and I was OK with that. I recently answered the question of whether or not I was capable of love, I am capable of it, I am just afraid to get hurt again. My slut understands this and is willing to allow me to work this out, with the understanding that I am not going to rush into anything... we have a beautiful relationship where we can communicate freely, and that goes a long, long way to helping me and her for that matter.

The point is that trust is something that is vital. If you rush in to things, you are going to get your trust betrayed. Go slow, look for warning signs, realize that there is simply no good reason to hurry into anything, and use your head not your heart in determining if an individual is worthy of your trust.

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But I guess the real question is how to find a slave where my heart is not involved.


I am fairly certain that there are plenty of slaves out there that would throw themselves at your feet with the understanding that you do not want a commitment. The question is, why do you need a slave at all? The more important question is whether or not you believe that working on you, and taking some time for yourself is more important than getting a slave.

I wanted to highlight a few things from others because I felt that it was really good advice for you:

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You don't protect your heart by learning how not to care or how not to take risks. You don't "protect" it at all, really. You live the most robust life you can by learning who to trust (which start by learning what are and are not good reasons to trust and to love someone) and then you do it.


The only thing I would add to this is that you are in control of when you want to put yourself at risk to get hurt.

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You trust again by not allowing a hurt from the past dictate your future and how you see others. Remember that someone new in your life is NOT the same person from your past, they're two different people and shouldn't be compared. Don't punish yourself or a new slave for the lies of the past slave, start a new beginning with a clean slate.


You definitely do not let the past hurts dictate your future. You can however, use the lessons you have learned.


I wish you all the best. Take time for yourself and heal, really heal. Answer the critical questions, learn from your mistakes and figure out how to prevent them in the future. Most importantly, be happy.


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RE: How do I protect my heart? - 7/6/2014 10:38:23 AM   
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Protecting your heart shouldn't be your goal anyway. Live bravely, fiercely. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

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RE: How do I protect my heart? - 7/6/2014 11:08:41 AM   
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~Sorry that you got your heart broken. Passive aggression usually has sign rather early on in a relationship. That you had a relationship for 10 years and put up with it for that long would be the cause of concern that I would have. You knew things were bad, or if you did not, you allowed it to continue well past the place it should have. I would start there. Ask yourself, why it took so long to do something about it. Ask yourself why you didn't recognize the warning signs earlier.~

It wasn't a 10 year relationship.It was about 3.
And long distance. He came to the UK many times but there was always a reason why I could not go to his country.
I did recognize the warning signs: when I tried to confront them some excuses came back: I see that now.

I can also see that I wanted him as a person, as a friend and as a lover. He simply wanted the sexual submission like an experiment.

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RE: How do I protect my heart? - 7/7/2014 1:35:36 AM   
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Start by learning to be single, learning to love yourself... and honestly... finding the right person... when the time is right...

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RE: How do I protect my heart? - 7/7/2014 2:20:22 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SlavingGrace79

Start by learning to be single, learning to love yourself... and honestly... finding the right person... when the time is right...


This.

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RE: How do I protect my heart? - 7/7/2014 8:09:13 AM   
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Def. educate yourself about the deep mental clusterfuck that is passive aggression.

It's everywhere, the toxin that never sleeps. Being mindful of it, cutting it out of your life (on your own side too) will bring you peace and freedom such as you have never known.

Here's a book that I found helpful, currently going for a single penny used on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Living-Passive-Aggressive-Man-Aggression-Boardroom/dp/0671870742/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1404745430&sr=1-3&keywords=passive+aggressive

And you're English, right?

I love your country and culture, but you are living in the ground zero epicenter of stupid passive aggression. You should probably read more than one book.

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RE: How do I protect my heart? - 7/12/2014 11:35:07 PM   
Arturas


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ORIGINAL: Asfixation

Hi. I'm back...a new profile and a new beginning. Although Collar has played an important role in my life for over ten years.
Difficult to admit but I feel heart broken. Broken by a slave who used me with such a passive aggression it's difficult to admit.
How to replace him as replace him I must.
What have I learned?
Too many unanswered questions.
How to really trust again?
But I guess the real question is how to find a slave where my heart is not involved.


I find a heart that is broken has an empty space that must be filled again to be whole so your stated goal is not what you want or need. I also suggest that if we consistently wish for something, like someone to fill that empty place, he or she will appear at the right time. Everytime. But you need to wish very hard for it to come true.

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RE: How do I protect my heart? - 7/12/2014 11:37:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SlavingGrace79

Start by learning to be single, learning to love yourself... and honestly... finding the right person... when the time is right...


This.

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RE: How do I protect my heart? - 7/12/2014 11:41:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: The16thMartini

Protecting your heart shouldn't be your goal anyway. Live bravely, fiercely. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.



This. Simple truths are the greatest treasures.

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RE: How do I protect my heart? - 7/13/2014 8:18:12 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Arturas


quote:

ORIGINAL: The16thMartini

Protecting your heart shouldn't be your goal anyway. Live bravely, fiercely. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.



This. Simple truths are the greatest treasures.

I'm so glad I saw this today. I often forget it lately :)

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RE: How do I protect my heart? - 7/13/2014 7:30:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Asfixation

Hi. I'm back...a new profile and a new beginning. Although Collar has played an important role in my life for over ten years.
Difficult to admit but I feel heart broken. Broken by a slave who used me with such a passive aggression it's difficult to admit.
How to replace him as replace him I must. Don't know.
What have I learned? Haven't got a gawdamned clue.
Too many unanswered questions. (So it would appear)
How to really trust again? One never knows.
But I guess the real question is how to find a slave where my heart is not involved. Sell your soul.


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RE: How do I protect my heart? - 7/14/2014 11:39:32 AM   
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You really have two basic options. Harden your heart and keep others at a distance, where slowly but surely you will become a numbed, unfeeling person you wouldn't even want as your own friend.
Or you can resolve to have the courage to care and to love again, which will take trust. You leave yourself open to being vulnerable. A breathing, sentient human being. Otherwise, you'll never feel truly alive again.

My situation is different. I haven't had a trust betrayed by somebody close to me. I can't imagine how that must feel. The best you can do is to own your part of contributing to this fiasco.
Whatever your reasons were for continuing to participate in prolonging your misery are your own. But whatever you do, don't make the next sub who comes along pay for the transgressions of this unworthy one.

I lost a lifelong partner. In any personal loss and the end of a meaningful relationship, there is grief, and you need to allow yourself to go through this grieving process.
Time does eventually put some distance between you and the acute inner pain you feel. It won't go away overnight. Push past that pain, and hold onto your hopes and dreams for a brighter, better and more fulfilling future.

You have my sympathies, but be assured that your courage will prevail.

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RE: How do I protect my heart? - 7/14/2014 11:46:08 AM   
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But I guess the real question is how to find a slave where my heart is not involved.

The only way to do that is to stomp on someone else's heart.

I'm not going to help with that. And you won't ultimately like it either.

What you REALLY need to do is to take time to heal. You aren't ready yet, and certainly not ready to involve someone else.

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RE: How do I protect my heart? - 7/14/2014 11:58:43 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Asfixation

But I guess the real question is how to find a slave where my heart is not involved.

The only way to do that is to stomp on someone else's heart.

I'm not going to help with that. And you won't ultimately like it either.

What you REALLY need to do is to take time to heal. You aren't ready yet, and certainly not ready to involve someone else.


You can't, don't and shouldn't "replace" a slave. Rather, and there is a lot of other superlative advice already posted here, you find and connect with a slave who satisfies your needs as a whole person (and you of course must satisfy that slave's needs, too). That is, as slavingGrace79 said, you have to learn to love yourself. As long as you think about "replacing" someone, you cannot recognize the value and gifts a new slave will bring, for everything will be a matter of comparison. Each of us, M&s, brings to a relationship our own unique values, faults and idiosyncracies. I am sure you don't want a slave looking to replace a prior Master. Rather, you want to be valued for who you are as an individual. It is hard, because it is human nature to compare, but you must strive to do the same. Good luck.


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