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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Lets look at shit here should we? Native Americans owned 100% of the land, we waltz in all of a sudden we own 96% and they maybe 4%. So, how much you own? Lets take 90% of that away from ya, whatta ya say? You seem to think it is a right brilliant fuckin deal, apparently.

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And they were sneaky about it, they let terrorists and Arab countries attack and kill innocent civilians just so they would have an excuse to kill more non Jews

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

and of course, the Jewish people.

Or is it?

Lets look back in history, shall we?

Balfour Declaration of 1917 basically agreed to set aside 10% of the region for a Jewish homeland.

Now of course, the Arabs were dismayed because they felt that since they rebelled against the Ottoman Empire to help the British in WW1, they should rule the entire region, Jews be damned.

For 30 years following the Balfour Declaration the Arab side said no to every offer of compromise on the British Mandate for Palestine. It continued saying no despite Britain setting aside about 80% of the Mandate for the Emirate of Transjordan (1922) and the Peel Commission recommending a two-state solution for the remaining 20% (1937). In other words, the Middle East conflict is about 10% of mandatory Palestine. That’s what the Arabs deny the Jews. They’ve had 90% all along.source

At midnight, May 14, 1948, the British mandate over the region expired, the next day the State of Israel was declared. The surrounding Arab states declared war five hours later.

Those Arab countries made it clear they would destroy Israel and its citizens.

This thought has been repeated by various Arab leaders since 1948.

Yup, since it was formed in 1948, Israeli forces have been going out of their way to kill Palestinians and Arabs every chance they got. And they were sneaky about it, they let terrorists and Arab countries attack and kill innocent civilians just so they would have an excuse to kill more non Jews.

Now that is a conspiracy, letting your own people get killed for 66 years just so you have a reason to kill the people that are killing your people.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

1948: Israel did not attack Palestine. The Arab states did. They divvied it up as part of their attack on Israel. That's how the West bank and Jerusalem (which was supposed to be under UN control) became part of Jordan and Gaza became part of Egypt. The Arab states then forced and kept Arab refugees in camps as a convenient propaganda tool.
1967: The Arab states massed to invade, Egypt alone had 100,000 troops along the border. Israel struck first and quickly routed the combined armies of Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Iraq.
1973: The Arab states attacked on Yom Kippur catching Israel by surprise. It did them no good. They were quickly defeated yet again.
in between and since the Arabs have maintained a terror campaign against Israel.

Now I'm not saying the Arabs don't have a grievance but maybe they should stop resorting to violence? Maybe try nonviolent resistance?

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

and of course, the Jewish people.

Or is it?

Lets look back in history, shall we?

Balfour Declaration of 1917 basically agreed to set aside 10% of the region for a Jewish homeland.

Now of course, the Arabs were dismayed because they felt that since they rebelled against the Ottoman Empire to help the British in WW1, they should rule the entire region, Jews be damned.

For 30 years following the Balfour Declaration the Arab side said no to every offer of compromise on the British Mandate for Palestine. It continued saying no despite Britain setting aside about 80% of the Mandate for the Emirate of Transjordan (1922) and the Peel Commission recommending a two-state solution for the remaining 20% (1937). In other words, the Middle East conflict is about 10% of mandatory Palestine. That’s what the Arabs deny the Jews. They’ve had 90% all along.source

At midnight, May 14, 1948, the British mandate over the region expired, the next day the State of Israel was declared. The surrounding Arab states declared war five hours later.

Those Arab countries made it clear they would destroy Israel and its citizens.

This thought has been repeated by various Arab leaders since 1948.

Yup, since it was formed in 1948, Israeli forces have been going out of their way to kill Palestinians and Arabs every chance they got. And they were sneaky about it, they let terrorists and Arab countries attack and kill innocent civilians just so they would have an excuse to kill more non Jews.

Now that is a conspiracy, letting your own people get killed for 66 years just so you have a reason to kill the people that are killing your people.