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My apologies FO. That response was directed to gauge. I was half asleep reading with tired eyes when I wrote it. Thank you for your positive input on this thread.

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You've missed the point of the entire post. Which is ok, a couple of responders understood and I'm thankful for that. My intent was to start a discussion whatever response I received be it inflammatory or constructive. You seem to be having trouble with the definition of rhetorical though. It's a question that doesn't require an answer. It's meant to encourage discussion. I'll concede your point regarding bdsm. I could have used another example. But to suggest there is no skill involved is a statement I can't agree with.There are skills utilized in bondage, skills employed in delivering discipline, skill is a necessity if you're a responsible sadist and so on. Skill is practiced or should be in all lifestyles. Even "people skills" qualify. As for my description of masters in trade you backed that up. Master and journeyman are accepted in industry as having the same meaning. They have reached the pinnacle of expertise in their respective fields. Addressing now the "Master of people." Again you are saying the same thing I allude to in my original post. You're nothing to anybody except yourself until somebody (In this case my submissive) says you are. We're not that far apart on any of this except the meaning of rhetorical , people skills and the ability to maintain a healthy helpful attitude. Oh, there are no paragraphs because I'm on my phone and I find it tedious to maintain proper prose. My apologies.

not sure about all trades, but in plumbing a "master" is quite different from a "journeyman"

after a 5 year apprenticeship you can get a journeyman license, after another 5 years as a journeyman you can get a master plumbers license. a journeyman cannot
take out a permit for a job, a master can. there are separate tests for journeyman and master

the journeyman test focuses more on ability to perform the work, the master more on theory and application of why It needs to be done a certain way.

here is a question more on topic, if a person has had a slave who considered him "master" and that relationship lasts several years, then ends, does he cease to be a "master"?

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You've missed the point of the entire post. Which is ok, a couple of responders understood and I'm thankful for that. My intent was to start a discussion whatever response I received be it inflammatory or constructive. You seem to be having trouble with the definition of rhetorical though. It's a question that doesn't require an answer. It's meant to encourage discussion. I'll concede your point regarding bdsm. I could have used another example. But to suggest there is no skill involved is a statement I can't agree with.There are skills utilized in bondage, skills employed in delivering discipline, skill is a necessity if you're a responsible sadist and so on. Skill is practiced or should be in all lifestyles. Even "people skills" qualify. As for my description of masters in trade you backed that up. Master and journeyman are accepted in industry as having the same meaning. They have reached the pinnacle of expertise in their respective fields. Addressing now the "Master of people." Again you are saying the same thing I allude to in my original post. You're nothing to anybody except yourself until somebody (In this case my submissive) says you are. We're not that far apart on any of this except the meaning of rhetorical , people skills and the ability to maintain a healthy helpful attitude. Oh, there are no paragraphs because I'm on my phone and I find it tedious to maintain proper prose. My apologies.

not sure about all trades, but in plumbing a "master" is quite different from a "journeyman"

after a 5 year apprenticeship you can get a journeyman license, after another 5 years as a journeyman you can get a master plumbers license. a journeyman cannot
take out a permit for a job, a master can. there are separate tests for journeyman and master

the journeyman test focuses more on ability to perform the work, the master more on theory and application of why It needs to be done a certain way.

here is a question more on topic, if a person has had a slave who considered him "master" and that relationship lasts several years, then ends, does he cease to be a "master"?

True enough but the only difference I've heard of and according to my research in the testing...is law. (1/2 the test...is legal for contracting) and thus insurance. A general contractor is much more pursued and is thus, licensed to do the whole bldg. or job.

The knowledge in the trade or 'mastery' of plumbing is basically the same. The analogy then becomes then that a 'master' of BDSM could bid and contract on it and get insurance for the 'job.' Say...loosely speaking.

Plumbing is not a very good example as you may know what the other tradesmen joke about plumbing anyway...hot on the left, cold on the right, water runs down hill and payday is on Friday. There's nothing technical about it. The 'theory' of plumbing is gravity and pressure...period.