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RE: collared subs and slaves on message boards - 11/25/2004 9:59:05 AM

mellian

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i hated the fact that i seem to cease becoming an individual who has her own opinions when i was my last Domme's sub....not just online via the local area email lists, but in person in the community as well.

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RE: collared subs and slaves on message boards - 11/25/2004 10:41:06 AM

happypervert

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it was personal differences with other dominants that made the dominant chose to leave. The head of the group asked my opinion on if his slave should be booted. <snip> Should she decide to post on a topic, it would be *her* thoughts, not his... 'cause that's actually what this group is afraid of.

I can see why a dominant would choose to leave this group. It sounds like there is the "head" dom and then other submissive "doms" that agree and then anyone with a mind of their own gets blackballed or booted.

They "fear" disagreements? What a bunch of small-minded twirps.

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RE: collared subs and slaves on message boards - 11/25/2004 11:08:25 AM

Hawkins

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"... if a dominant leaves a message board because he doesn't like the politics or policies of the group, it is his duty to take his submissive with him or the submissive should be banned. The reason given is that a submissive is just a mouthpiece since their views *must* be the same as their dominants. "

Well, I like milk. My slave is lactose intolerant. Don't think that is one view I'd like her to share. I mean, is my dominance so insecure and god-damn needy that I need someone to be a 'yes-slave'? I think not. I don't get anything out of someone submitting their intelect to me. Their heart, their soul, their body... yeah. But one's mind is one own in questions of taste, no matter what emotional sway is held.

Actions might be different; one obviously might wear clothes or colours one wouldn't normally; but you're still not going to like a colour, no matter how much you might get from submitting. Same with politics et. al.

If one holds a slave has to mirror their master's opinion, the next 'logic' step is for a slave to vote as her master directs. Ya wanna know what I think of that?

I would expect my slave to do as I tell her. I would not feel she had to leave a board because I didn't like its 'ethos' and left. If I felt it was 'getting' to her (and this is a recent experience, although the board that was getting to her wasn't one I was a member of or ever had been, it had a nasty atmosphere and (although things have improved) if it persisted I would tell her to stop going there. Because her welfare is my concern; not because I need her to share an opinion.

Of course, I would expect any slave to always be respectful and mindful of her responsibilities in the event of such a situation.

But I really find such prescriptic 'Dom-by-numbers', sub-Gorian, insecure, falsely vain "rules" (obviously some people have access to the 'Great Book of Dom' and can quote from Second Submissions VI:32-35, or is it the 'Old Guard Principles', branded on leather in San Francisco in 1970 and now available at a URL near you where they get this stuff?) really risable. It's like someone with a 'lampoon me' sign on their back.

So, to be clear, it's a load of bollocks.

Provided a slave remains concious of her responsibilities, there is no reason a master should want her to parrot his opinion, or leave a place because he doesn't like it. Obviously if that site was effecting his slave in a negative fashion, he could tell her to stop going there.

If a slave wishes nothing to do with a site her master doesn't like, then that is a different thing. Giving them the right to decide can give them the opportunity to display submission, even if it isn't asked for (and all the more powerful for it).

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RE: collared subs and slaves on message boards - 11/25/2004 5:50:07 PM

Anubis

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Personally i use this site to speak to other like minded people. If my Mistress knew some of the dicussions i have here i would most definatly be in serious trouble, however this allows me the freedom to express myself as an individual without having to restrain myself to to Mistress' shadow over my shoulder. If we were to share all the same views or go to all the same places what would be left to talk about? i agree with shared experiences but also in an individual life. Mistress does not have an account and that allows me to have an outlet. So my opinion then is let us stay if you leave, if there are trust issues read our posts but some of us greatly desire the communication and comraderie a site like this offers.

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