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finding true slaves - 8/3/2014 6:51:53 AM   
whipthatass


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Status: offline 		finding slaves I know this has been asked in the past but why is it so hard to find a trueslave in the last couple of years it seems like the slaves that contact me with in just a few minutes of chatting ask when I can send the money for them to come to me even though my profile clearly says don't ask for money what is it
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RE: finding true slaves - 8/3/2014 7:34:29 AM   
AthenaSurrenders


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Status: offline 		Have you tried becoming active in your local community? No guarantees that you will find the one, but it's very unlikely anyone will ask you for money.

The only other thing I can suggest is taking some real time to look at your profile and making sure it's giving out the right message about who you are and what you are looking for. As it stands, I wouldn't reply to you even if I were looking for a Master your age in your area. It doesn't tell me who you are as a person at all, it's very sloppily written (even though you have been here for years so lots of time to make an effort), no photos of you, a friends list full of sexual pictures and it just has a couple of lines about your fantasy. In short, it comes across as someone making a lazy attempt for some sex with no interest in the other person. I'm sure that's not you at all, so perhaps look at how you portray yourself?

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RE: finding true slaves - 8/3/2014 7:40:16 AM   
thishereboi


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Status: offline 		There could be a lot of reasons for this. Does your profile make you look like an intelligent man who a slave would be proud to belong to or does it go on and on whining about the problems you have encountered online? Did you take the time to spell check it or perhaps have someone else proof it for errors? Does it say what you have to offer someone? You profile is your only chance to make a good first impression. You also might want to consider taking out your little warning about people not emailing asking for money. The quickest way to get someone to message you is to tell them not to do it.

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RE: finding true slaves - 8/3/2014 8:32:07 AM   
SinFix


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Status: offline 		Wow, you have no pictures of yourself but whine and cry because someone messages and doesn't have a picture up of themselves. You are fifty something years old, act like it.

As for true slaves, they are still women, appeal to the woman and you get the slave...

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RE: finding true slaves - 8/3/2014 8:44:03 AM   
freedomdwarf1


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quote:

ORIGINAL: whipthatass

finding slaves I know this has been asked in the past but why is it so hard to find a trueslave in the last couple of years it seems like the slaves that contact me with in just a few minutes of chatting ask when I can send the money for them to come to me even though my profile clearly says don't ask for money what is it

Much like the others have said - your profile is sloppy.
Try some punctuation!!

You only get one chance to make an impression - on here and in your profile.
Reading a wall of text with no punctuation at all shows either ignorance or lack of education.
Your blogs are insulting to many who might read them.
Your profile says nothing about you except a list of kinks and what you want.
Also, you aren't allowed to post email addy's in your profile. That just proves you really can't be bothered to read and follow rules. Subs and slaves will read that and assume (quite rightly) that you won't respect whatever boundaries get put into place - it gives the impression that you cannot be trusted as a Dom/Master in any sort of dynamic.


Athena has some good answers for you.
As she also mentions, you are not new on here so you've had plenty of time and opportunity to look at other profiles and refine/improve your own. You haven't done that - and that speaks volumes of laziness or couldn't-care-less attitude; no slave would want a Dom with that attitude.


When I go looking for slaves, if I see a whole bunch of "friends" with explicit pics, I instantly avoid them because they are the 'pic collector' type of person who generally isn't sincere.


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RE: finding true slaves - 8/3/2014 8:56:41 AM   
DaddySatyr


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True slaves are so hard to find because they've been corrupted with these ideas that we have, running around in this lifestyle that teaches them things like "I'm not a doormat" and "A dom has to earn my submission" and "my submission is a gift".

Ya know, it started when we let them vote, I think.

[/snark]

Seriously, it isn't any easier to find a partner in this lifestyle than it is in any other lifestyle.

You're looking for a "true" slave (who isn't, pal?). That word in quotation marks is going to be defined by your standards, expectations, and desires. What works for you isn't going to work for me.

Then, when you've found a lady that meets your criteria, you have to meet hers.

It's déjà vu, all over again!







Screen captures still RULE! Ya feel me?

< Message edited by DaddySatyr -- 8/3/2014 8:58:35 AM >

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RE: finding true slaves - 8/3/2014 9:13:08 AM   
smartsub10


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Status: offline 		Your profile comes across as someone who would be easy to scam.
No mention of who you are as a person. Lots of whining about bad experiences. Very badly written sentences and spelling.

All that equals easy mark to scam.

Try a little harder. Appeal to slaves as women, first. Trash your present profile and start over using some of the very good suggestions from this thread.

Good luck.

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RE: finding true slaves - 8/3/2014 9:35:22 AM   
Spiritedsub2


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Status: offline 		I don't think you could have made your profile less appealing to anyone if you tried. This is why you can't find a slave after all these years. It's you, not them.

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RE: finding true slaves - 8/3/2014 9:56:39 AM   
DesFIP


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Status: offline 		What makes you someone worth being the leader in your relationship?
D/s is not an escape from learning relationship and communication skills.

Become a person worth trusting this fully and someone will commit to you.
Or continue to whine like an adolescent and continue not to be worth committing to.

At your age, you should have learned a lot more. The fact that you've avoided dealing with your issues this long tells me that you are not someone that any woman of quality will get involved with.

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RE: finding true slaves - 8/3/2014 10:12:43 AM   
MistressDarkArt


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quote:

ORIGINAL: whipthatass

why is it so hard to find a trueslave


It's probable your screen-name isn't helping. If I were a submissive woman seeking, I wouldn't read your profile based on that alone.

Also, including outside contact info in your narrative such as the yahoo address you list is against TOS. Apparently you missed that part when you signed up.

< Message edited by MistressDarkArt -- 8/3/2014 10:16:28 AM >

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RE: finding true slaves - 8/3/2014 11:24:37 AM   
Gauge


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Status: offline 		i have several suggestions the first suggestion is actually presenting yourself as if you care about who you are this can take many forms for example punctuation it helps to use it to get a clear message across but the lack of punctuation says loud and clear that you cant even be bothered to press a button to communicate better with that being said there really is... fuck it... I can't write like that any more.

A true slave doesn't exist except defined by the parameters of what it is you are looking for in a partner. My slut, to me, is a true slave, but to others she may not be to their liking and therefore she is the worst slave ever in their eyes. The point being that one size definitely does not fit all, so patience is important. Work on how you present yourself and the message you send. Also, be realistic, if you are messaging someone that is 22 and looks like a porn star the odds are good that they are only after your money, there is a small chance that they are real and sincerely seeking. I have had plenty of contact with those that want me to hop on Yahoo with them after one email because for some odd reason they cannot be bothered to establish a rapport and instant messaging with me is better than a few emails somehow. People scam people on the Internet, it is a simple reality, block and move on.

Good luck with your search.

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RE: finding true slaves - 8/3/2014 11:42:56 AM   
seekingreality


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quote:

ORIGINAL: whipthatass

finding slaves I know this has been asked in the past but why is it so hard to find a trueslave in the last couple of years it seems like the slaves that contact me with in just a few minutes of chatting ask when I can send the money for them to come to me even though my profile clearly says don't ask for money what is it




1. There are lots of scammers online. Just accept that if people contact you out of the blue some will ask for money. Just terminate the conversation and don't get worked up about it.

2. Forget the notion of "true" slaves. Think of people as individuals; not as labels. What is "true" to you may not be "true" to someone else. How you define "slave" may be different than how someone else defines "slave."

3. You've gotten a lot of valid criticism about the sloppiness of your profile. On top of that, you have years worth of comments that do nothing but complain and whine. That's terribly unappealing.

4. Get a reality check. There aren't many people who are interested in "24/7 365 slut to obey me in every way possible am into a lot of things bondage pain and everything that goes with it." And if they are you have some things to address: Will they work outside the home? If not, can you afford the expenses, health care and other daily issues? If you are living with someone 356 24/7, BDSM stuff will be a small percentage of your life. Have you separated fantasy and reality?

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RE: finding true slaves - 8/3/2014 11:58:47 AM   
littleladybug


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Status: offline 		I may or may not be a "true slave" in anyone's eyes-- but I do know what I have no patience for, and that is a whiner. I understand that everyone has their issues, and that people are entitled to vent every now and again-- but there's a time and a place. Are you really sure you want to do your venting in a format where this will be someone's first impression of you?

Here's my honest impression of your profile. Ok, this guy had has some difficulties in the past finding his match on here. That may or may not have been his "fault". Certainly, there are "fakes" everywhere, including the Net. But, I am who I am, and I will not "prove" myself to someone who has not put anything forward in his profile that seems worth "proving myself for".

Also, another honest comment, in regard to what you wrote in your journal about women telling you "the way they want it". Again...I'm not sure that I'm a "true slave", in any sense of the term, but this strikes me as really off. I can only speak for myself, but man, if someone comes out with a comment like that, it just screams to me that they're looking for a mindless dolt to give them sex whenever they want it. If that's what you're looking for....cool. I don't think anyone is in any position to judge that. But, in reality, you're in a niche market with that. And whining won't help your prospects.


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RE: finding true slaves - 8/3/2014 12:34:24 PM   
freedomdwarf1


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ORIGINAL: littleladybug
...it just screams to me that they're looking for a mindless dolt to give them sex whenever they want it.

That is pretty much what I thought when I read OP's profile.
It is exactly how it came across.

Nothing wrong with that, if that's what he wants and is willing to pay for it.
But his post seems to say different.
If that is the case, he needs to completely re-vamp and re-write his profile.

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RE: finding true slaves - 8/3/2014 1:16:32 PM   
seekingreality


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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1


If that is the case, he needs to completely re-vamp and re-write his profile.


I'd say he needs to change his attitude first. A new profile won't help if it doesn't genuinely reflect what he is looking for and what he is offering. The profile is certainly bad. But the biggest issue may be that he is viewing all this in terms of fantasy.

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RE: finding true slaves - 8/3/2014 1:22:14 PM   
freedomdwarf1


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Status: offline 		You are probably right.

The thing is, OP is not a youngster and has been on here for 3 years~ish.
You would have thought he would have learned something by now.
Sadly, he doesn't appear to have learned anything at all.


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RE: finding true slaves - 8/3/2014 2:41:44 PM   
Spiritedsub2


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Status: offline 		Unless the profile is a dramatic mismatch to the person himself, he should leave his profile exactly the way it is.

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RE: finding true slaves - 8/3/2014 3:12:37 PM   
subrosaDom


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ORIGINAL: Spiritedsub2

Unless the profile is a dramatic mismatch to the person himself, he should leave his profile exactly the way it is.


Aside from the fact that everyone who's posted in response to the OP is correct, I'd add:

1) Nothing is as distasteful in a profile as whining and criticism of experiences on here. Dude, you don't think we've all had scammers contact us? We've all had people disappear on us? We've all had people be rude to us? We've all been called fakes? This is no Panglossian Paradise. Bad shit happens. Deal with it and man up.

2) I do disagree that your grammar is poor. The reason is that your writing is so disjointed that to even apply the concept of grammar to it would be the equivalent of having Michelin prepare a rating for the local McDonalds.

3) Your "asks" (BBWs and Asians?), coupled with your idea of what a "true slave" is like make me think you're the scammer. Especially when coupled with your email address, with a common first name and last name (a classic "tell"). It's more likely that a meteorite will obliterate Fargo tonight than that you'll hear from a slave with substance.

4) On the out chance that you have good intentions, get your shit together. Express yourself coherently. Delete your journal entries that make it clear you are not in control of your environment. Show that you have a sense of humor, not that you are a wannabe Ariel Castro.

5) Djinn up some street smarts. Most scammers are obvious from a mile away. If you actually fall for the scammers (even if you discover them later), you're being a fool. Wise up and learn their tricks. Only the most brilliant of them ought to be able to get very far. I could list -- as I'm sure the others here could -- over 20 different "tells" for scammers. Don't you know any of them? I'll give you one hint: do a Google image search by right-clicking (or Apple equivalent) on a pic. If you get a bunch of cam girls and porn stars on Eastern European sites, chances are this "babe" might be XY, not XX.

6) Take my comments, snarky as they are, in good spirits. Because they're not just sarcastic; they're also substantive, as are everyone else's.

Cheers.

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RE: finding true slaves - 8/3/2014 6:24:34 PM   
catize


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ORIGINAL: whipthatass

finding slaves I know this has been asked in the past but why is it so hard to find a trueslave in the last couple of years it seems like the slaves that contact me with in just a few minutes of chatting ask when I can send the money for them to come to me even though my profile clearly says don't ask for money what is it

TRUEslavesRUS, like many other stores with quality merchandise have gone belly up. Spokesperson Master Ownenatrueslave was quoted as saying "unfortunately there were too few TRUE masters to buy our TRUE slaves, so our stocks plummeted."

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RE: finding true slaves - 8/3/2014 6:38:51 PM   
SeekingTrinity


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You won't find "true slaves" because that is largely a fantasy myth. I personally tend to automatically discount anyone who starts talking in weal twue because they tend to be wrapped up in some idealized fantasy of what D/s and BDSM is. Just my honest opinion based on observations I've made

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