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Submissives and Slaves, Are there any real differences by reality or just definition?

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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

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Submissives and Slaves, Are there any real differences by reality or just definition?

Slaves are fatter.

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ORIGINAL: Redhusky

If we define slave by using the dictionary :"a person legally owned by another and having no freedom of action or right to property; who is forced to work for another against his will"
However in D/s , M/s relationship and in BDSM it's different.
As much as we say in out profiles we are slave , we will never be slaves defined by the dictionary if we have freedom.
In collarspace or in FetLife all slave have freedom, so they are submissive and not slaves by the dictionary. But if we arent slaves , then why does BDSM use the word slave if we arent ? Why does FetLife or Collarspace allows selecting this role if we arent ?

We dont use the same definition of slave that the dictionary use. So it depends from person to person.

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ORIGINAL: TheCabal


You are correct that there is no way, in the United States, to legally own another person. But it's not really that simple is it? Because I don't legally own another person, does not mean that other person doesn't consider themselves owned. There's a difference between the legal aspects of a situation and the practical aspects to it.

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ORIGINAL: littleladybug

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ORIGINAL: TheCabal


You are correct that there is no way, in the United States, to legally own another person. But it's not really that simple is it? Because I don't legally own another person, does not mean that other person doesn't consider themselves owned. There's a difference between the legal aspects of a situation and the practical aspects to it.

Even if someone considers themselves "owned", they always retain one fundamental power: to leave.

And, while contracts for slavery are not enforceable in a court of law, they do show (a lot of times) one of the practical aspects of this sort of "slavery"-- negotiation between the parties. Perhaps the word "ownership" should also be defined here?

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ORIGINAL: TheCabal


You might be surprised about a slave's ability to leave. Not so much in the physical sense (though it seems some actually do seek out full captivity) ... but it's not really all that difficult to create a level of dependence between Master and slave that makes leaving seem nearly impossible.

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ORIGINAL: littleladybug

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ORIGINAL: TheCabal


You might be surprised about a slave's ability to leave. Not so much in the physical sense (though it seems some actually do seek out full captivity) ... but it's not really all that difficult to create a level of dependence between Master and slave that makes leaving seem nearly impossible.

I'm aware of the issues involved, the "dependency" happens in all sorts of relationships.

The key phrase here is "seem nearly impossible". The reality is, it is not impossible. It may be difficult, but if someone truly wants it, the opportunity is there.