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Slv4playKL -> Lifestyle, Love and Respect. Anyway for BALANCE?!!!! (8/20/2014 3:59:56 AM)

Dear Ladies
I found Several profiles here for dominant Ladies saying that they are learning the methods of MystressWorld and asking sub men to go and study them to live by those rules and classification after i read the journal of MystressWorld
I really cannot find myself fitting anywhere there but i wish to discuss something with you.
Would there be a chance of a Dominant woman having TPE with her slave man with balance to romance and love between them considering it the position of the man in her life not him being a slave and lower than what she calls real man?
that's the image i have in my mind i don't see non-dominant women as women to me and they dont attract me so i think that there should also be dominant women who also think the same and never feel anything for a man who is not submissive to them.
also why there should not be balance and fulfillment in a D/s relationship between a Mistress and her slave on three levels (Woman/man- Mistress/slave- Human/human)?
Thats the image i have in mind and it wouldn't deny cuckolding as well but not on the base of real man and slave cuckold but on the principle of she owns him but he doesn't own her.
or even loving couple where they belong to each other but she is free and he is not.

please share your ideas about that

thanks for your time and with all my respect




AthenaSurrenders -> RE: Lifestyle, Love and Respect. Anyway for BALANCE?!!!! (8/20/2014 6:27:28 AM)

Lots of dominant women want relationships with their submissives which also include loving interactions. Lots of dominant women don't consider their partner's less than a real man either - they pick people they think are awesome and who also happen to be submissive. I would guess that in reality there are more D/s couples which DO involve romantic love than those which are purely 'kneel, bitch-boy' stuff.

MystressWorld is a money-making site selling a fantasy. Don't use it to get an insight into how people actually live.




DesFIP -> RE: Lifestyle, Love and Respect. Anyway for BALANCE?!!!! (8/20/2014 7:00:58 AM)

There are many dominant women who love their partner and consider him a real man.




CreativeDominant -> RE: Lifestyle, Love and Respect. Anyway for BALANCE?!!!! (8/20/2014 9:32:06 AM)

My oldest unmentionable is female and she is dominant...not in a kinky, BDSM sense but definitely in a D/s sense.

Now, I have my own suspicions about her fiance...he may be the Alpha who on the one hand is courteous and acts like a gentleman and treats her like the lady we raised her to be while on the other hand is strong enough to relax her dominance and actually bring out a submissive side I have not seen before except in dealing with individuals like my brother, me, some of the men in my family and in her mother's...but never with a romantic partner. But that's the here and now...

Her previous involvement...with the father of my grand unmentionable...was strictly her as the D-type and him as the s-type. For a long time, it worked. And he was not feminine in any manner, not sissy. not acting out of a place of fear...he was just a man who was perfectly content to let the woman run things because in all honesty, she was better at it. His biggest downfall was when he stopped acting like a man and began to feel and act as if, since she was running things, he had license to act like a kid again instead of a responsible father and partner.

I have a fem domme friend who used to come here quite a bit. She'd met her submissive partner on Lit. They've been together now for at least 5 or 6 years and by all accounts are doing well. He definitely comes across as a real man and stepped up when it counted. So, do I believe it's possible? Yes, I do.




Slv4playKL -> RE: Lifestyle, Love and Respect. Anyway for BALANCE?!!!! (8/20/2014 9:49:57 AM)

I am glad with the answers so far :)
I think that the D/s love is a great bound that should be built on love and respect :)




DarkSteven -> RE: Lifestyle, Love and Respect. Anyway for BALANCE?!!!! (8/20/2014 10:08:49 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Slv4playKL

Dear Ladies
I found Several profiles here for dominant Ladies saying that they are learning the methods of MystressWorld and asking sub men to go and study them to live by those rules and classification after i read the journal of MystressWorld


There will be incompatible people everywhere. Dommes affiliated with MystressWorld are evidently incompatible with you. Cool. Move on.

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I really cannot find myself fitting anywhere there but i wish to discuss something with you.
Would there be a chance of a Dominant woman having TPE with her slave man with balance to romance and love between them considering it the position of the man in her life not him being a slave and lower than what she calls real man?


Too much porn.

1. TPE is a difficult relationship, and should be worked toward. If you end up in it, cool, but be prepared to be satisfied with a non-TPE relationship.
2. Being a slave is not necessary. It's not even agreed upon what the differentiation is between slave and sub.
3. A lot of finDommes are into humiliation. Not many lifestyle Dommes are. But it has no correlation with slavery.
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that's the image i have in my mind i don't see non-dominant women as women to me and they dont attract me so i think that there should also be dominant women who also think the same and never feel anything for a man who is not submissive to them.


Fella, if you do not see vanilla and sub women as being women, you've got a problem. Them not attracting you is okay, though. Women tend to be attracted to people, not roles. Heck, there are Dom/Domme couples and sub/sub couples, where the mutual attraction outweighed the kinkstuff.
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also why there should not be balance and fulfillment in a D/s relationship between a Mistress and her slave on three levels (Woman/man- Mistress/slave- Human/human)?


There should be that balance.
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Thats the image i have in mind and it wouldn't deny cuckolding as well but not on the base of real man and slave cuckold but on the principle of she owns him but he doesn't own her.
or even loving couple where they belong to each other but she is free and he is not.

please share your ideas about that

thanks for your time and with all my respect



Since you don't seem to hold strong opinions about cuckolding, I'd just shelve that. Too many men into it, and too few women - even mentioning it will make some Dommes drop you for fear you'd want to push them into that.

Welcome to collarspace!




FieryOpal -> RE: Lifestyle, Love and Respect. Anyway for BALANCE?!!!! (8/21/2014 12:26:21 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Slv4playKL

I found Several profiles here for dominant Ladies saying that they are learning the methods of MystressWorld and asking sub men to go and study them to live by those rules....

Any Domme affiliated with and actively promoting MystressWorld or some sort of submissive male training school are suspect to me re D/s lifestyle, and are treating F/m like a business. Personally, I would never accept a sub with MW "credentials"; I don't want a pre-trained sub who will have to be de-programmed and then re-programmed even more than the usual sub who has had RT experience serving a Mistress. Sometimes working with a blank slate is best, as long as the submissive is willing to learn, and therefore teachable. A natural submissive is already willing to please, and that's what matters the most.

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven
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ORIGINAL: Slv4playKL

Would there be a chance of a Dominant woman having TPE with her slave man with balance to romance and love between them considering it the position of the man in her life not him being a slave and lower than what she calls real man?

Too much porn.
1. TPE is a difficult relationship, and should be worked toward. If you end up in it, cool, but be prepared to be satisfied with a non-TPE relationship.
2. Being a slave is not necessary. It's not even agreed upon what the differentiation is between slave and sub.
3. A lot of finDommes are into humiliation. Not many lifestyle Dommes are. But it has no correlation with slavery.

If you are an inexperienced newbie, it is completely unrealistic for you to be contemplating TPE with a Dominant. Nobody with a lick of sense plunges right into a Master-Mistress/slave TPE dynamic, whether it's a 24/7 live-in situation or not. Even those with prior D/s experience ease into their TPE relationships.

As DS also noted, D/s does not require being a slave. All slaves are submissives, but not all submissives are slaves, nor would every sub want to be considered a slave.

The reason why for-hire Dommes are into humiliation is because THAT is what their male clients want. Humiliation is a form of mental-emotional sado-masochism--it can be physical or acted out with physical acts of humiliation (often consisting of "forced-CNC" or punishment dynamics), but it doesn't have to be (as with name-calling, belittling, verbal begging w/limited prostration and/or tearfulness [Dacryphilia/dacrylagnia]). In other words, this is more of a "guy" thing.

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven
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ORIGINAL: Slv4playKL

that's the image i have in my mind i don't see non-dominant women as women to me and they dont attract me so i think that there should also be dominant women who also think the same and never feel anything for a man who is not submissive to them.

Fella, if you do not see vanilla and sub women as being women, you've got a problem. Them not attracting you is okay, though. Women tend to be attracted to people, not roles. Heck, there are Dom/Domme couples and sub/sub couples, where the mutual attraction outweighed the kinkstuff.

I think OP did not express himself well, and he may have meant he does not see non-dominant women on more than a platonic basis, as friends. Let me give you a word of advice and please listen carefully, S4pKL. You need to be friends first with a woman in order to build a solid foundation of trust and camaraderie; otherwise, you are merely treating Dominant women as sex objects who exist to cater to your pleasure and fantasy-fulfillment. Which would make you no better than a selfish (vanilla) pig.

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven
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ORIGINAL: Slv4playKL

also why there should not be balance and fulfillment in a D/s relationship between a Mistress and her slave on three levels (Woman/man- Mistress/slave- Human/human)?

There should be that balance.

Why wouldn't there be a balance and mutual fulfillment? No lop-sided relationship can last for the long haul--one of the parties will simply be biding his/her time until somebody better comes along.

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven
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ORIGINAL: Slv4playKL

Thats the image i have in mind and it wouldn't deny cuckolding as well but not on the base of real man and slave cuckold but on the principle of she owns him but he doesn't own her.
or even loving couple where they belong to each other but she is free and he is not.
please share your ideas about that

Since you don't seem to hold strong opinions about cuckolding, I'd just shelve that. Too many men into it, and too few women - even mentioning it will make some Dommes drop you for fear you'd want to push them into that.

Exactly what DS observes. Cuckolding is a Hard Limit with me; just the mention of it is a (pre-)deal breaker, as is bisexuality (including an interest in "forced" bi), non-monogamy, and in my own particular case--masochism, since I am not a sadist (not ordinarily an issue with most other Dommes). Furthermore, any desire for "forced" feminization/sissification is a Soft Limit (which means it repulses me).




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