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RE: Do you agree? - 8/25/2014 8:58:43 AM   
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With the advent of washing machines the services that women provide men are not as important as they once were. The need/demand for sex has remained the same or increased. It certainly hasn't decreased. Women now have a greater value to society offering their submission to a boss than to a husband.

If you believe washing machines are of such importance, can I suggest you marry one and the pair of you settle down to a long and mutually beneficial relationship. I've no doubt that you will soon master how to turn your partner on ........ I can just see the sparks flying ......


Yes, you'd think that such a relationship would be happy, yet that old bit about the "lonely Maytag repairman" makes me wonder.

Washing machines have instruction manuals and a set of clearly marked dials and switches, so they're pretty easy to turn on. Dryers, too, and dryers can be pretty hot sometimes.

I would also give mention to microwave ovens and the cottage industry of microwavable meals which has cropped up.



Indeedies! We shouldn't overlook the advantages of the manufacturer's warranty either.

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RE: Do you agree? - 8/25/2014 11:12:00 AM   
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I still think you have no idea what I am talking about.

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One of your best ever posts, BM!

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RE: Do you agree? - 8/25/2014 11:50:58 AM   
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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle


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ORIGINAL: BenevolentM

With the advent of washing machines the services that women provide men are not as important as they once were. The need/demand for sex has remained the same or increased. It certainly hasn't decreased. Women now have a greater value to society offering their submission to a boss than to a husband.

If you believe washing machines are of such importance, can I suggest you marry one and the pair of you settle down to a long and mutually beneficial relationship. I've no doubt that you will soon master how to turn your partner on ........ I can just see the sparks flying ......


Yes, you'd think that such a relationship would be happy, yet that old bit about the "lonely Maytag repairman" makes me wonder.

Washing machines have instruction manuals and a set of clearly marked dials and switches, so they're pretty easy to turn on. Dryers, too, and dryers can be pretty hot sometimes.

I would also give mention to microwave ovens and the cottage industry of microwavable meals which has cropped up.



Indeedies! We shouldn't overlook the advantages of the manufacturer's warranty either.


Yes, although on a more serious note, I think that it's difficult to pinpoint a single invention or improvement in technology which changed the nature of human relationships from what they used to be. The washing machine is only one of many time-saving devices (although not every family has a washing machine or dryer). Taking into consideration urbanization and improvements in transportation/communication technology have changed things immensely.

Has marriage become less important or obsolete in today's modern society, as BenevolentM suggests? For some people, that might be true. A lot of people stay single all their lives, and I know many people who were married in the past but don't ever want to get remarried. I don't think it has much to do with washing machines, though.


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RE: Do you agree? - 8/26/2014 10:29:52 AM   
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Has marriage become less important or obsolete in today's modern society, as BenevolentM suggests? For some people, that might be true. A lot of people stay single all their lives, and I know many people who were married in the past but don't ever want to get remarried. I don't think it has much to do with washing machines, though.


Washing machines, vibrators, etc. help empower people to be single. There is less incentive to have a relationship or remain in one.

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RE: Do you agree? - 8/26/2014 10:45:32 AM   
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RE: Do you agree? - 8/26/2014 10:47:34 AM   
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Absolutely. Although we learn many lessons good and bad in the multiple relationships through our life we have, the more we have that are unsuccessful the further we get from trust. It is very difficult or impossible in some accounts to forget disappointments or betrayals, even if you forgive them.
Unfortunately if we have not encountered often integrity, loyalty, trustworthiness, honesty, reliance the first reaction naturally is distrust out of instinct.
Take BenevolentM for example. It's very obvious someone has greatly disappointed him. Women are now reduced to only having sexual value. I bet he didn't always have this view.


My views are utilitarian. A honest woman is willing to run a washing machine as if the washing machine were not a competitor of hers. Hypothetically speaking, suppose I had a lot of money. What sort of services could a woman provide me that I could not hire professionals and other servants to provide? For the wealthy such as the Bush family, it is an aire.

The real question whether or not I would give money to feminist causes?

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RE: Do you agree? - 8/26/2014 10:56:43 AM   
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Talk about an unbroken circle, hah?


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RE: Do you agree? - 8/26/2014 11:07:28 AM   
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Does the Maytag company have a feminist division in which you could donate so they would give washing machines to single ladies?


LOL

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RE: Do you agree? - 8/26/2014 11:17:56 AM   
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RE: Do you agree? - 8/26/2014 11:20:20 AM   
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RE: Do you agree? - 8/26/2014 11:46:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BenevolentM

What sort of services could a woman provide me that I could not hire professionals and other servants to provide?

Not a service, but money can't buy you love or the touch of a woman's loving embrace.

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The real question whether or not I would give money to feminist causes?

You should give to your heart's desire, those causes which hold personal meaning for you.

This might be TMI btw, but I personally don't use a vibrator on myself. Like many women, I have never wanted to be dependent upon an inanimate object for my satisfaction, or to take the place of having an intimate connection with a living, breathing human being.
Nonetheless, if I weren't totally straight, I would have turned to women a long time ago.... You men are a pain in the arse.

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RE: Do you agree? - 8/26/2014 11:48:23 AM   
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FDS on a stick.


You have it all wrong. That's what happens after she does the laundry and you have inspected the clothing to see if it has been folded correctly and such.

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RE: Do you agree? - 8/26/2014 2:10:16 PM   
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The flipside of this is when individuals carry over baggage from prior break-ups (an ugly divorce and/or child custody battle) into a new relationship, where they might subconsciously make their new partner pay for the wrongs of their former one(s) out of unresolved trust issues. When this does happen, the new partner never really had a fair shake, unfortunately, and this can become a vicious cycle that gets perpetuated.


What if the new partner had it comming?

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RE: Do you agree? - 8/26/2014 2:16:36 PM   
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Not a service, but money can't buy you love or the touch of a woman's loving embrace.


The moonlight bunny ranch is open 24 hours a day and it is for sale there.


You should give to your heart's desire, those causes which hold personal meaning for you.

I do every chance I get.

You men are a pain in the arse.


That would be only the ones who eschew lube


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RE: Do you agree? - 8/26/2014 3:05:09 PM   
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What if the new partner had it comming?

Then he had it coming to him and should get what he deserves.

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Not a service, but money can't buy you love or the touch of a woman's loving embrace.

The moonlight bunny ranch is open 24 hours a day and it is for sale there.

We all know that women who are for hire are not the "real deal." Fake *loving* is...fake, just like fake "Domination" for purchase by bitches who want to pretend they're being "forced."

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You men are a pain in the arse.

That would be only the ones who eschew lube

Those would be the same men who would cut off their nose to spite their face...and should get a taste of their own medicine (by Buford in the next cell).

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RE: Do you agree? - 8/26/2014 3:21:15 PM   
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We all know that women who are for hire are not the "real deal."

No we do not know that.
You do not know that unless you have been to the moonlight bunny ranch which I am sure you have not. You are in no position to comment with any validity on that which you have not experienced.


Fake *loving* is...fake,

Talking about sex here and trust me it is not fake.


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RE: Do you agree? - 8/26/2014 3:22:27 PM   
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Those would be the same men who would cut off their nose to spite their face...and should get a taste of their own medicine (by Buford in the next cell).


His name was buba not buford...and what we had was special.

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RE: Do you agree? - 8/26/2014 3:34:41 PM   
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We all know that women who are for hire are not the "real deal."
No we do not know that.
You do not know that unless you have been to the moonlight bunny ranch which I am sure you have not. You are in no position to comment with any validity on that which you have not experienced.

Irrelevant, whether I've ever been to a whorehouse or not.
Just wear a banner then, that proclaims you are wife-hunting for a gold digger. Suit yourself--it's a "free" country. Oh wait, not for you apparently.

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Fake *loving* is...fake,
Talking about sex here and trust me it is not fake.

So you believed all those Thai streetwalkers who promised to "Love you long time"?

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RE: Do you agree? - 8/26/2014 4:17:56 PM   
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We all know that women who are for hire are not the "real deal."

No we do not know that.
You do not know that unless you have been to the moonlight bunny ranch which I am sure you have not. You are in no position to comment with any validity on that which you have not experienced.

I've done both and picked up a hooker (many years ago now).
I can assure you that a woman in love with you as a person rather than a paying client has a whole different feel to it and it really is not the same - it's not even the same league!!
[ETA: not the moonlight bunny in particular but most whore houses are pretty much the same]

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Fake *loving* is...fake,

Talking about sex here and trust me it is not fake.

Fake loving definitely is... fake!
It's wooden, play-acting, role-playing.... call it what you like.
It's deffo not the 'real deal' and the feelings are worlds apart.

Yeah, Ok, it's sex. But not much better than fucking a bag of spuds.
Making love to "your" woman is very different indeed and light-years more pleasant.


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RE: Do you agree? - 8/26/2014 4:54:18 PM   
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I can assure you that a woman in love with you as a person rather than a paying client has a whole different feel to it and it really is not the same - it's not even the same league!!
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Fake loving definitely is... fake!
It's wooden, play-acting, role-playing.... call it what you like.
It's deffo not the 'real deal' and the feelings are worlds apart.

Too bad you're already taken, fd1, cuz I think I love you! The way you think and feel, I mean.
(No disrespect to the Missus)

No doubt this is why some men stay perennial bachelors,
and why many marriages stagnate...
...husbands who don't know how to make love to their wives and only want to have sex
(and who get cut off from sex as a result of that, and being romance-challenged).

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