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littleone5 -> RE: 24/7 or bedroom fun? (7/12/2006 7:36:26 AM)

Tracie, i couldnt agree with u more, its so frustrating when ur needs r soo strong and sometimes  doms or so called Doms dont get it, they think its a game, well its not  , i just want to serve and respect a true loyal Master who appreciates alli give and that i live for his happiness, is that so bad....[:o] The search gets very tireing and im soo in need, ..where r the real Doms????   thank you and good luck...



devotednhappy -> RE: 24/7 or bedroom fun? (7/12/2006 7:40:34 AM)

Dea Iron Bear,

Not looking to be attractive to Dominants or Masters.  Seeking friends.  If a Dominant wants to be friends that is fine but not seeking a Master right now.  Just broke up with one about 2 weeks ago.  Just trying to iron some things out in the head.  Trying to find understanding and solace in like minded or should this slave girl say people who are in the lifestyle who are willing to share and communicate.  That is all. When this slave girl is ready she will change things or maybe make a whole new profile.   But not looking for a Master now.

Thanks for the advice.

Sincerely,
tracie



devotednhappy -> RE: 24/7 or bedroom fun? (7/12/2006 7:50:56 AM)

Dear windchymes,

Thanks for the support and taking the time to read this slave girl's profile.  Moreover, your quote is insightful.  May have to use it sometime.  It seems people often do not take the time to fully examine a subject, person, or whatever.  This slave girl likes to speak to others about their perspective and often ponders their words and ideas and sometimes they can change this slave girl's own opinion or maybe make her more resolute.  However, she listens and respects it.  she might not even agree with it but it opens her mind to a new way of thinking. 

Thanks again and have a good day!

Sincerely,
tracie



LiliesDoGrow -> RE: 24/7 or bedroom fun? (7/12/2006 7:55:25 AM)

Hello Tracie.

I can feel the strong emotion and sincerity of your words/wishes.

It's difficult for us to find people to fit exactly into our ideals. Especially if we have intense needs that have never been actualize. In this realm it's easy to fall into a mindset that Doms/Masters are suppose to be all knowing, all loving, all wisdom.

They're not. They're just individual men with many flaws and weaknesses. Just like all humans. If you meet a man who you care as man first, foibles and all, then his interpretation of "Dominence" is easier to accept. If you care for this man, and he cares for you, then your specific needs are not so prominent.(Writing in generalizations, not directing this specifically towards you.)

At least that's what my old age has taught me about human interaction. Find someone you have chemistry with, share commonalities, in my case, someone to love deeply, be loved in returned, share mutual respect for each others wishes. Old fashion give and take. When a man loves a woman, he gives her the world. And it's easier to love a woman who accepts him, loves him, appreciates the man he is, not what she fantasizes him to me.

No one ever lives the exact life they fantasize, but with a little soul searching and a lot of selflessness, we can get mighty close to it.

Good luck to you and wishing you happiness.

Lily.



devotednhappy -> RE: 24/7 or bedroom fun? (7/12/2006 8:02:30 AM)

Dear littleone,

Thank you! Thank you, it isn't just this slave girl who sees it.!  It's like there are times, this slave girl wishes she could meet someone who can back up what they say!  she does it all the time and often they do not.  This slave girl thinks that many subs and slaves get treated like crap and they think that's the norm.  Well, there is a generation or two ago who lived a D/s relationship for most part and not all were treated so shabbily.  If a subordinate is willing to give You their all and Your taking it.  Should You not give it in return in whatever way You the Dominant sees fit?  this slave girl is a good mother, good maid, a good cook, and a nasty ass slut in the bedroom. Now, she'd like a Dominat male or female to step their game and do the same in Their way.

A Dominant told this slave girl that was a trick that Doms use.  They have the slave jump through hoops and go through all kinds of changes so that their so happy to get off and go to sleep, so to speak.  That don't sound interesting to this slave girl.  She likes to worship the Master, time willing, of course.  From head to toe and everything in between.  So, Littleone, this slave girl feels You. 

Have a good Day!

Sincerely,
tracie



mistoferin -> RE: 24/7 or bedroom fun? (7/12/2006 8:04:22 AM)

devotednhappy,
I am reading an awful lot about many Masters and a lot of phone calling and emailing. Have you ever lived 24/7 in the same house as your Master....or have these all been telephone and email Masters, or Masters who you get together with for kinky sex? I am also reading a lot about how you wish to live only for their pleasure...but you also put alot of emphasis on having your needs met. To me, your "needs" sound kind of like "wants" if you consider slaves as "property" and needs being along the lines of food, water and shelter. Not trying to be a smartass....just trying to get a feel for the perspective you are coming from.



Caretakr -> RE: 24/7 or bedroom fun? (7/12/2006 8:07:07 AM)

Here's my take on 24 7. And I have done this in the past.

people seem to think 24 7 is something like a kinky play session, that never ends. Really it's pretty boring overall.

You pretty much do the things any of us do in day to day lives,there's just an authority model built in. Sort of like living with a boss. Still,responsibility and things you do have to be delegated. The boss has to be able to trust the responsibility of the employee. And an underling who has to be watched and babysat constantly will soon be fired.
You can babysit someone for a week or a weekend,but it gets damned old if it goes on for longer than that.




devotednhappy -> RE: 24/7 or bedroom fun? (7/12/2006 8:12:23 AM)

Dear Sinergy,

Understand Your words and yes it is time comsuming but for a slave well a greedy one like this slave girl. It's fun from time to time to get extra attention.  she is a very devoted and loyal slave and there are times she she feels unnoticed.  and when this slave girl is tightly controlled at times she does feel loved and protected.  It is an odd feeling and as a Dominant You may not understand it but it is the joy of total and utter release of control.  To float and worry about nothing because Master has control of it.  It allows this slave girl to go and do without fear of hurt or reprisal.  It is bliss.  she is doing exactly what her Master wants her to do and it gives her joy to do only what and how He wants her to do it. 

Well, hope You can have some understanding now why subordinate may like it.  However, this slave girl understands Your perspective as well.

Have a good day!

Sincerely,
tracie



mistoferin -> RE: 24/7 or bedroom fun? (7/12/2006 8:12:37 AM)

Yes, I guess I should have clarified. 24/7 to me is living life under the same roof with another human being in a power exchange dynamic....it is not play and whips and chains and scenes all day. It is cleaning the toilets and cooking the meals and taking the car in for service and watering the lawn and all of the other things that have to get done in everyday life too. Play is a bonus.



devotednhappy -> RE: 24/7 or bedroom fun? (7/12/2006 8:35:10 AM)

Dear Crappy dom

Your right, keep chosing crappy ones because listening to friends who tell this slave girl to be open.  she knows one when she sees Them. Her Father was Dominant and she keeps being told that her standards are too high and when she sees the fuck ups she should give slack, we all make mistakes.  But no more!   Also, if the slave does not trust the way you lead because Your actions are shaky and ill planned, is that such a bad thing?  Or is she more foolish to follow the foolish leader?  Now, W/we all know everyone does things on the fly but if the Dom keeps fucking up and the results are beneath standard that this slave girl holds for herself; when is it okay to say, "This ain't going to work out. Your own life ain't right.  How are You going to control mine?" 

This slave knows she is demanding and she lacks humility at times (she is not submissive to everyone is she?) but she has never met a Dom who was worthy or demanded true submission and the one Master who asked for it, never followed through.  Dominants say they want it but they can not handle it or they are so used to insincere subordiantes who play games with them they do not truly expect to receive it..  she has been told numerous times that the Dominant was not ready for what He told her that He wanted, "total submission".  And when it's handed over to them they faltered and/or cowarded.  she knows she is flawed and has much to learn but she is willing to learn, and try and fail. But willing.


Now, this slave girl will not waste anymore time with you or any other fake dom. 

Have a good day!

Sincerely,
tracie



caitlyn -> RE: 24/7 or bedroom fun? (7/12/2006 8:41:25 AM)

You could always join the Army ... supposedly they are good at the micro-management thing, and are always looking for "A Few Good Subs." [;)]
 
Seriously though ... good luck finding what you are looking for. [:D]



Caretakr -> RE: 24/7 or bedroom fun? (7/12/2006 8:52:42 AM)

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ORIGINAL: devotednhappy

Dear Crappy dom

Your right, keep chosing crappy ones because listening to friends who tell this slave girl to be open.  she knows one when she sees Them. Her Father was Dominant and she keeps being told that her standards are too high and when she sees the fuck ups she should give slack, we all make mistakes.  But no more!   Also, if the slave does not trust the way you lead because Your actions are shaky and ill planned, is that such a bad thing?  Or is she more foolish to follow the foolish leader?  Now, W/we all know everyone does things on the fly but if the Dom keeps fucking up and the results are beneath standard that this slave girl holds for herself; when is it okay to say, "This ain't going to work out. Your own life ain't right.  How are You going to control mine?" 

This slave knows she is demanding and she lacks humility at times (she is not submissive to everyone is she?) but she has never met a Dom who was worthy or demanded true submission and the one Master who asked for it, never followed through.  Dominants say they want it but they can not handle it or they are so used to insincere subordiantes who play games with them they do not truly expect to receive it..  she has been told numerous times that the Dominant was not ready for what He told her that He wanted, "total submission".  And when it's handed over to them they faltered and/or cowarded.  she knows she is flawed and has much to learn but she is willing to learn, and try and fail. But willing.


Now, this slave girl will not waste anymore time with you or any other fake dom. 

Have a good day!

Sincerely,
tracie


You also need to learn that demanding to be controlled and micromanaged, puts you in the driver seat.

It's not a happy thing to have one's perogatives questioned and usurped by a supposed underling. And if refusing to respect that demanding topping from the bottom , makes a man with the backbone not to tolerate NOT having things HIS way.....a fake.

You are in for a very difficult and frustrating time.

Get out of your little dream world, and have a look at reality.



devotednhappy -> RE: 24/7 or bedroom fun? (7/12/2006 9:21:03 AM)

Dear Lily,

First thank you for your kind words and wisdom.  You are right about give and take and chemistry.  This slave girl lacks patience.  That is her greatest downfall.  Moreover, this slave girl loves your name.  She has always wanted a daughter named Lilian.  So, it was a blessing to read such encouraging and true words from you.  Thank you.

this slave girl kind of figured out that she will have to find her Master in a friend.  she is kind of expereincing that now with a friend that she brought into the lifestyle.  W/we are just friends but W/we are seeing the potential in other.  However, He knows, this slavegirl is in no rush to be owned right now, she needs some healing time. But W/we have great chemistry and W/we talk about everything and He has shown her He is trustworthy through T/their friendship.  He does not give into her demands but He gives her what He feels she needs from Him, as a boss and a friend.

We have been friends for about 2 years and nothing more.  He has seen this slave girl since the beginning of her search into submission.  He even made her his maid.  she is the only woman that has the keys to His home.  she had to earn that right. He is always in control but He is kind and gentle and loving.  she knows His true character and that is very important to this slave girl. But many Dominants lie and cover up their flaws. He leaves them there for her to see and she does not judge. she tries to help Him, not hinder Him, when she sees He's hurt or vulnerable.

Reading Your email Lily, reminds this slave girl that many people nowadays have forgotten basic things like respect and dignity.  And He and this slave girl have these things.  He has shown this slave girl that she does not have to degrade herself all the time to build the Master up.  He is of good character so He stands on His own and she is just a reflection of Him.  Many Doms, this slave girl feels lack Honor, dignity, and intergrity.  They treat these traits of character like books on shelves.  They look at them from time to time and maybe use something from the book for work but not really applying it to their lives.  It's sad.  This friend, He lives with Honor, respect, integrity, and dignity everyday and this slave girl knows it true because she has seen it and expereinced it with her own eyes and interaction with Him.   she never felt she could find a man quite like Him let alone have Him interested in her.  However, like this slave girl has said be fore, "No Rush!"  she has a feeling she will happy and devoted with Him eventually! 

Thanks again for your words and the chance for this slave girl to focus her thoughts.  Thanks Lily!

Have a good day!

Sincerely,
tracie  



devotednhappy -> RE: 24/7 or bedroom fun? (7/12/2006 9:32:57 AM)

Dear erin,

Thank you for responding to this slave girl's posting.  And all of the emailing and calling stuff is exactly what this slave girl talking about.  That's all they offer.  She understands that there are long distance relationships but even in local ones the Dominants relieved to heavily on phone interaction. This slave girl wanted to cook dinner (she is a classically trained french chef with a specialty in Italian cuisine) and she wanted to clean (she does day work for a living) and she wants to care for them (she can come and cook dinner or do laundry while You are at work)  or whatever they'll let this slave girl do. Often times the Doms are not used to a slave that actaully gets joy from taking actual care of them but this slave girl does.  she lives for it! A Dom friend of this slave girl who is a client gets a kick out of the fact that making His bed perfectly brings this slave girl bliss.  Knowing how hard He works and having His dinner done and His bed made meticulously perfect is a pleasure for Him and it gives this slave girl joy to give it to Him. 

So, trust this slave girl she's trying and willing to serve but the ones she has come accross make it hard to happen or do not take full advantage of it because they do not want to assume responsiblilty of her.

Thanks again. Have a good day!

Sincerely,
tracie



LiliesDoGrow -> RE: 24/7 or bedroom fun? (7/12/2006 9:44:49 AM)

Bless your heart Tracie! Thank you for such a sweet message.

There is no doubt that you're traveling on the right path that will lead you to the caring person you deserve. Sometimes we must trudge through the muck and mire in order to find solid ground.

Take all the time you need.

Lily.




mistoferin -> RE: 24/7 or bedroom fun? (7/12/2006 10:09:56 AM)

Dear tracie,
I think I may see the root of your problem. I believe that you have a very "fluffy" vision of what slavery is. Now before you get upset by that, I am not saying that is a bad thing necessarily. What I am saying is that if what you are seeking is along the lines of what you have conveyed here in your posts, then you need to be very upfront about that with perspective Dominants in the very early stages of your communications. There is someone out there for everyone and I am sure that there is a Dominant out there who is looking for exactly what you have to offer...but I don't think that it is what most Dominants think of when they envision slavery. Many Master's have a view of slavery that is much more along the lines of property....a situation where "loving and caring for" a slave does not enter the equation beyond providing the basic human needs. They don't feel obligated to give in return at the same level you have given to them.

You also need to be upfront about your experience level. In this thread you have stated that you are not a newbie and are considered to be advanced. Phone calls, emails and chatting do not make experience. They make you an experienced communicator...but not an experienced slave.

Also, I think that most Dominants are not looking to take on the full responsibility of another human being....at least not from the outset. I think that responsibility is something that is taken on in stages as the relationship progresses. It is important that you are capable of taking responsibility for yourself. You mentioned early on about women of today being told that they can think and do for themselves....well this is true....and submissives and slaves should also be capable of thinking and doing for themselves. While guidance from a Dominant is always appreciated...most do not wish for you to not be able to function on your own accord.

I think you may need to sit back and do some real soul searching about exactly who you are and what it is that you are looking for. Aside from that I think that with open and honest communication you will eventually find what it is you seek.



devotednhappy -> RE: 24/7 or bedroom fun? (7/12/2006 10:24:04 AM)

Dear Caretaker,


Heard You and understand You and if you read other postings You would have read that this slave does not wish for micromanaged all the time.  she understands the Master has His own life and concerns.  she is saying that for 1) the Dom asked for total control and told her to ask for permission for everything and did not answer the phone or email that He directed her to use to ask, He showed poor judgement and lackof  following through. and 2, this slave girl said she only truly desired it when her emotions were overwhelming. (i.e. PMS) and 3) she was trying to explain the bliss of total submission.  There is a dreamlike nature to submode, hello!  They call it flying!

Stop trying to be a hard ass and listen.  That's the problem with so many Doms!  Always chastizing but never really analyzing.  Yes, He is in control but He doesn't have to be an uncommunicative ass in the process and be disrespectful and rude to the slave who has done nothing but try to follow His command!  If You want unquestioning authority then You better show some self respect and have manners, dignity, integreity and honor.  Then You'll get Your well deserved unquestioning authourity.  If You say Your about it be about it.  Say one thing do another.  That is foolish behavior. Why do so many Doms feel like they are beyond human reproach? 

Being a Dom does not give You permission to be an asshole!  If You say, I will be there at 2:15 and I want You ready.  Don't show up at 3:00 and act like nothing happened.  Shit, You did not even call that You were going to be late. Or even better apologize!  It might have occured to You that  could have been time that this slave girl could have been spending on her makeup or fixing a sem or getting dinner ready for her son. Just being considerate.  Being a Dominant does not give You the right to be mean or cruel unless warranted or in a scene because beyond that it's just abusive.  This slave girl could see if a Dominant had a plan or an agenda or teaching the slave girl a lesson or setting up a scene whatever. But being rude and inconsiderate should not be commonplace.  Or maybe Your just always late but don't be an ass after the 50th time Your late. Finally Your actually are on time on the 51st  and she is not ready. You and  throw an unreasonable fit, this slave girl could see some snipping and some  griping even some hair pulling but to beat her and scream at her which this slave girl reads a lot about is unneccessary and abusive.  Because You taught her that You do not care about punctuality.  You did that.  You set that up!  The Dominant.  The slave is a direct reflection of You and Your teaching remember that!  And no one should be able to move You where You do not want to go.  Many doms yeild too much for their subs. Or it's the opposite they're inflexible and inconsiderate of the slave's life demands.  Either way.  It seems a lot of people Dominants and subordinates are turning into assholes.  And it needs to stop. 

I will no longer respond to You.  Have a nice day and God bless You.

Sincerely,
tracie

This slave gril knows some Real Masters.  They all are very protective of her and tell her to stay off online.  They often say, "To be honest, I don't have many real doms friends and the ones that real are are taken."  So, when they know of one and refer them to this slave girl and even they were like "Damn!  I thought he was better than that! Sorry."  Or they want me to be theirs but this slave girl is not willing to be a beta slave right now.  She knows she can be a devoted, loyal, and trusting slave to a Man of good character and good heart.  Not a brute and a tryrannt like Your sounding. 

But like this slave girl said before, Understand You and where Your coming from. And can see Your point.  But do You have to be an ass in saying it.

Have a good day and I will no longer respond to You!

Sincerely,
tracie



CrappyDom -> RE: 24/7 or bedroom fun? (7/12/2006 10:36:03 AM)

Crawls up to her feet to listen to all of her "needs" so that he can do it exactly the way she wants and be a "true" dominate to her...

There are days like this that make me really REALLY happy I am a crappy dom.  I am so fucking lazy I just do whatever the hell I feel like at the time with little if any concern what the little slut wants...



MrDiscipline44 -> RE: 24/7 or bedroom fun? (7/12/2006 10:42:39 AM)

As long as you give responses like this above tracie, noone is going to want to put up with you. Fact is, you're the slave. As such, you're property. A person doesn't apologise to property. It's like say sorry to the wall for having to hammer a nail in it more then once.

All in all, there is only one thing that all those Doms had in common that you need to change and thats you.



jezabelKH -> RE: 24/7 or bedroom fun? (7/12/2006 11:04:51 AM)

Use the internet as a tool for communication, but don't let it be your only tool. do you have groups such as NLA or MAsT in your area? is there a local munch? seek out local venues or sign up and go to a Leather or BDSM event or educational classes. nothing beats meeting people face to face.  

sincerely
jezabel{KH}
just simply a slave
Property Of Master Ken



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