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"Pointless Deaths" - 8/31/2014 12:17:37 PM   
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Those words have appeared in a slew of thread titles recently, and they've set me to musing: What makes a death meaningful as opposed to pointless?

Thoughts, anyone?

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RE: "Pointless Deaths" - 8/31/2014 12:36:14 PM   
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Every breath is precious

Nah, scratch that. Nothing matters, existence is pointless. We all die anyway, even the Earth has an expiration date. This is all just a way of marking time as we await our fate

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RE: "Pointless Deaths" - 8/31/2014 2:09:26 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: dcnovice

Those words have appeared in a slew of thread titles recently, and they've set me to musing: What makes a death meaningful as opposed to pointless?

Thoughts, anyone?



I think the pointless equals, "This did not have to happen."

A death becomes meaningful when it happens in service to a greater good.

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RE: "Pointless Deaths" - 8/31/2014 2:33:01 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: dcnovice
Those words have appeared in a slew of thread titles recently, and they've set me to musing: What makes a death meaningful as opposed to pointless?

Thoughts, anyone?


While such a conversation is an interesting topic. Lets not forget....WHO...is stating such things. The ones that defend firearms like a religious cause. The ones that believe the 2nd amendment is a religious code and therefore can not be changed, altered, or misread by anyone (except for them, whom conveniently ignore the first half and reinterpret the remainder). For them, the numbers they speak on could be ten times the values, and they....STILL...wouldn't give a shit.

That there are more deaths due to automobiles then firearms, is used like a defense. When reality is shed on the 'religious belief', it faulters.

How many hours of operation are cars used during the business week? How many hours of continuous firing of firearms takes place during that same time?

Which is more a complex set of moving parts? A standard automobile or an assault rifle? Which is easier to maintain? So mechanical failure leading to deaths with automobiles is naturally more likely.

How in-depth have the studies been performed on the usage, cause of accident, and length of operation, not to mention the environment one typically finds both an automobile and firearm? For automobiles, pretty damn deep; for firearms...not at all. The ones that bring up 'pointless deaths' in their threads are hellishly against any real, in-depth studies looking into and testing the firearm myths that exist. They, demand everyone except their myths without question.....or else! Is that really the viewpoint of a studied, educated, and sane person? Or some religious nut, scared to death that his or her viewers are mostly false and easily disproven with scientific data?

An example of a pointless death?

Sending our troops to Iraq to remove weapons of mass destruction from an evil dictator whom would use them on the United States of America. Only problem? The WMD collection was practically 'nil' compared to the 'massive stockpiles' we were all told. How many of our soldiers had to die to find that information out? Which political party kept the evidence hidden? And which supports keeping careful, through, and in-depth research from firearms, like they do with automobiles? The same political party: The Republican/Tea Party!

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RE: "Pointless Deaths" - 8/31/2014 8:36:25 PM   
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Almost all deaths are pointless when most could have been prevented or avoided altogether. Some disease is about the only deaths...unavoidable.

These deaths are the price we pay for the freedoms we enjoy...to effect them in one way or another.

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RE: "Pointless Deaths" - 9/1/2014 11:29:33 AM   
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To be fair I think I made the first thread about "another pointless death" due to the lunacy of letting a child use an Uzi. You need to ask others why they jumped on the bandwagon.

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RE: "Pointless Deaths" - 9/1/2014 11:52:22 AM   
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It's triggered a different thought for me, DC. More along the line of "pointless lives."

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RE: "Pointless Deaths" - 9/1/2014 12:05:11 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: dcnovice

Those words have appeared in a slew of thread titles recently, and they've set me to musing: What makes a death meaningful as opposed to pointless?

Thoughts, anyone?


I'm not sure if there's much to read into the actual phrase "pointless death." I suppose in the grand scheme of things, all death might be "pointless" - and maybe even life itself may not even have any actual "point" to it all.

But in this case, the phrase "pointless death" doesn't necessarily imply that there's such a thing as a meaningful death. It's just like when people say "horrible tragedy," it doesn't mean that some tragedies are wonderful.

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