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DesFIP -> RE: 24/7 imprisonment and boredom. (9/3/2014 8:29:29 PM)

Don, the types who say they want this are just fantasizing. And wanking to the fantasy.
I don't know anyone who has any experience who wants this. Yes. sometimes they'll claim they had it in the past, but if you ask details, they disappear quickly.

For some unknown reason, it's something guys say 100 times more than women. So if the profile claims to be female, I'd take that with a large grain of salt also.

And bugs, of any kind, are unwelcome here.




AnnaOphelia -> RE: 24/7 imprisonment and boredom. (9/4/2014 7:52:35 AM)

Again, I think it's usually not a daily all the time thing, more like an extended scene . Although I'm sure there's exceptions to it. It can be fun for a little. Most people use a larger cage or a room. The room thing doesn't seem bad at all to me.






I fully agree. Most of my hard limits came from this site or fetlife profiles lol




imtempting -> RE: 24/7 imprisonment and boredom. (9/4/2014 1:53:00 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Don, the types who say they want this are just fantasizing. And wanking to the fantasy.




You beat me to it.




thishereboi -> RE: 24/7 imprisonment and boredom. (9/4/2014 6:06:08 PM)

Yea I have seen a lot of those profiles too. And while I know a whole shit load of people who are into bdsm in the real world I don't know of anyone who actually does this. Personally I think the majority of them are excited about the fantasy but haven't actually thought about how unrealistic it really is.




GotSteel -> RE: 24/7 imprisonment and boredom. (9/4/2014 9:00:24 PM)

What's up with the June bug fetish?




Arturas -> RE: 24/7 imprisonment and boredom. (9/5/2014 8:03:54 AM)

Yeah, temporary caging is for effect. A temporary effect to enhance the scene. The shadows of dark cage bars playing over her high heeled figure enhance the effect of the evil jailer having his way with the innocent but jailed helpless girl. Doing this all the time robs caging of it's stimulation, it's ability to make her feel how helpless she is in an especially dark and somber scene.




Spiritedsub2 -> RE: 24/7 imprisonment and boredom. (9/5/2014 8:52:38 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Arturas

Yeah, temporary caging is for effect. A temporary effect to enhance the scene. The shadows of dark cage bars playing over her high heeled figure enhance the effect of the evil jailer having his way with the innocent but jailed helpless girl. Doing this all the time robs caging of it's stimulation, it's ability to make her feel how helpless she is in an especially dark and somber scene.


I hadn't thought being caged could have any appeal, until I read this description! Hmmm.




FieryOpal -> RE: 24/7 imprisonment and boredom. (9/5/2014 10:25:21 AM)


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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

I seem to remember a topic similar to this...I think it was about the health concerns of being caged constantly. Anyway...

I am also of the mind of "what's in it for me?". There is the control aspect but while it is often spoken of in D/s about the illusion of the dominant's control...the illusion shattered by the submissive refusing to submit...this is a perfect example of that illusion.
---the submissive is in a cage...where she wants to be, 24/7. How much work can she do in there? How much sex? How much social interaction with others outside the dominant's/submissive's world? How much responsibility can she bear for her actions...which are restricted to what the cage allows?

Thanks...but No thanks.

The boredom would most assuredly be mine. Quite frankly, I wouldn't cage a dog. What good is this fool slave to me if I can't make use of him? By the same token, why would I choose to attend to a pet who could offer me no companionship? Not to diss another's kink, but this makes no sense to me, not more than an hour.
(I'd go by the age:minute timeout ratio, the same with corner time, no more than that. If you're a healthy 40, then no more than 40 minutes spent in "isolation," or sensory deprivation. I would cut this off at 50 and start going in reverse for older folks.)

What's with the 24/7 business? Who's going to want to be any slave's free caretaker? Overnight would be bad enough, using a baby monitor; and any caring Dominant wouldn't get a good night's sleep being on call in this manner.




SpyUnderCover -> RE: 24/7 imprisonment and boredom. (9/5/2014 12:16:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal

The boredom would most assuredly be mine. Quite frankly, I wouldn't cage a dog. What good is this fool slave to me if I can't make use of him? By the same token, why would I choose to attend to a pet who could offer me no companionship? Not to diss another's kink, but this makes no sense to me, not more than an hour.
(I'd go by the age:minute timeout ratio, the same with corner time, no more than that. If you're a healthy 40, then no more than 40 minutes spent in "isolation," or sensory deprivation. I would cut this off at 50 and start going in reverse for older folks.)

What's with the 24/7 business? Who's going to want to be any slave's free caretaker? Overnight would be bad enough, using a baby monitor; and any caring Dominant wouldn't get a good night's sleep being on call in this manner.


I'm inclined to agree: caging for a half hour or an hour can be fun for teasing and whatnot. Beyond that, it's boring because I can't make use of the captive for much of anything. And the last thing I'd want as a dominant is to be someone's "free caretaker."

Spy




SeekingTrinity -> RE: 24/7 imprisonment and boredom. (9/5/2014 2:53:08 PM)

~FRing it~

I personally think the whole concept of desiring 24/7 cage living is a lot like the dude running around here wanting to be a 24/7 piss and shit eater...very strong in a fantasy sense, but weak on actual experience or thoughts of the long term picture. In either case, it's bound to be impractical. Or so Id think.

For me personally, I have enough going on without having to add the 24/7 care taking to the mix. It's not fun and it doesn't add anything to my life. Instead it makes more work I have to do. If someone else is down for that, more power to them. I'm just not down for having the fun and the life sucked out of me.




ExiledTyrant -> RE: 24/7 imprisonment and boredom. (9/5/2014 3:22:20 PM)

ST, prison will cater to both of those desires. Maybe not exactly the way they want it, but fuck'em, we don't tolerate topping from the bottom.

Jus sayin




InHisHeart -> RE: 24/7 imprisonment and boredom. (9/5/2014 3:32:57 PM)

From this sub's POV, there's no way I could be stuck in a cage or even a room for any length of time. Boredom would be the least of my problems, I'd go crazy very fast which won't be a pretty sight. It takes all I have to sit through a 2 hour movie. I'm very active, I've always been active and that's how I plan on staying. Master wouldn't want it, what good would it do him with me living in a cage?

Maybe these cage slaves along with the toilet slaves should try it for 48 hours and see if the reality lives up to their fantasy.




SeekingTrinity -> RE: 24/7 imprisonment and boredom. (9/5/2014 3:34:16 PM)

Just let the June bugs have 'em [:)]




Nakhla -> RE: 24/7 imprisonment and boredom. (9/6/2014 2:38:58 PM)


It's a fantasy. The longest it typically goes on for is a couple of days.

That being said, there are folks for who it is a regularly occurring event, and there's no reason one need be bored per se after a few hours, if you have the right mindset.

Then again, I can also sit at the beach for hours with or without a book!




AnnaOphelia -> RE: 24/7 imprisonment and boredom. (9/6/2014 3:55:00 PM)

What is a toilet slave? Not volunteering lol just wondering




PainCompliant -> RE: 24/7 imprisonment and boredom. (9/6/2014 4:36:39 PM)

A skilled captor understands the power of boredom.

I have been a captive/prisoner on a number of occasions - time spans from three days to two weeks. I have experience dealing with the tedium that comes with isolation. I am one of those who craves constant mental stimulation. Boredom is particularly difficult for me. It comes on within an hour of captivity and soon evolves into a "what the hell am I doing here" mentality which early in my experience led me to demanding freedom and successfully ending the experience.

Then I committed to a ten day period of captivity. The guy had a makeshift cell in his basement. Very secure, but didn't matter as I was chained by one ankle to an anchor in the rear of the cell with not enough slack to reach the door. It took a day and I had enough. Told the captor I wanted to stop. He said no, he was going to hold me to my original commitment.

Yeah, I know. At that point it became unlawful imprisonment. But I would never complain to the authorities and I guess he sensed that and was willing to take the risk. In any event I had no choice but to deal with the tedium. I retreated into my mind. Relived life experiences. Designed homes. Wrote some articles to later put to paper. Even worked out a detailed business plan that I followed through on and is now my full time business. I also messed with my captor doing things to throw him off. Annoy him, but not too much. Managed to take back a small bit of the he had over me (a small but sustaining victory). Later I learned many of the techniques I came up with were similar to military resistance techniques taught at SERE training. It was tough and a struggle but I made it through the ten days.

As always happens in threads such as this, posters ask what is the point of captivity or declare they are not going to wait on a person 24/7. Hope this quote of a journal entry from my profile gives some insight into the power a captor has over the captive:

"Confinement / Captivity is an extremely effective technique for conditioning and breaking a man. So much can be accomplished in a short time. There is a reality of having no control over one's existence - of being totally dependent on another man for even your most basic needs. The focus on the captor becomes all consuming. you listen intensely for the sound of his approaching footsteps not knowing whether they bring comfort or suffering - but longing some interaction, any interaction, just to break the isolation."

I have been broken a few times in captivity, once within 48 hours. The guy took me to a point of instant, unquestioning obedience. So much so that when our paths later crossed in informal situations, when our eyes met, we both knew that he still owned me.

Different strokes, and all that... For me, my most powerful/impactful experiences have come from being the captive of a skilled captor.




subrosaDom -> RE: 24/7 imprisonment and boredom. (9/6/2014 4:53:18 PM)


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ORIGINAL: AnnaOphelia

What is a toilet slave? Not volunteering lol just wondering


Some things are better left unsaid or, even more to the point, unvisualized. I trust that is sufficient information.




subrosaDom -> RE: 24/7 imprisonment and boredom. (9/6/2014 4:58:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ExiledTyrant


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ORIGINAL: Doncroyd

Another thing about caged subs, whats in it for me. I would have to provide space for them, feed them, cloth them.

I suppose the knowledge that you have someone under total control could be arrousing in itself, but for me it is a means to an end.

The control is there so that they do what I want them to do, not so I can treat them as some sort of zoo exhibit.

Again I just don't see the point of 24/7 caging. I suppose short term locking up when you are not using them would be ok, but the 24/7 thing eludes me.


Look at it like this, once he/she is caged, under your total control, you've just became a deity. Now, there is a plethora of deities you can become... Buffalo bill isn't a good one... Personally I would be the deity of hedonism.

Jus sayin


How about the deity of caging? Or would that make you the deity of tautologies? :)




ExiledTyrant -> RE: 24/7 imprisonment and boredom. (9/6/2014 5:03:14 PM)

No, I'm too naughty of a God to just be "He that cages your insubordinate ass". I'm more of the "what the fuck did you get yourself into you silly bitch" kind of god.

Jus sayin




Redhusky -> RE: 24/7 imprisonment and boredom. (9/8/2014 9:22:26 AM)

It's all fantasy and that they never experienced it.
Without stimulation , no person in right mind will do it. They might think that they will have fun, but imagining and experiencing are different things.




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