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NorthernGent -> RE: Wanna buy a slave? (9/8/2014 1:35:25 PM)

Most are. Any WASPS on here?




Marc2b -> RE: Wanna buy a slave? (9/8/2014 1:54:26 PM)

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No. It was about the fact that the slave trade is now open and public on social media.

If that was true then why bother bringing up the so called “war on women?”

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And that is disgusting.

Agreed.


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I would LOVE it if the feminists in first world countries would start fighting against it

How do you know that they haven’t been? I don’t understand why you and others (other than willful blindness) have such a difficult time grasping this simple concept: just because someone criticizes X, that doesn't mean they don’t have opinions on Y.

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rather than continue the phony "war on women" crap.

There is nothing phony about the ongoing attempt to restrict the right of women to have access to abortions and birth control. There are several organizations that actively work to roll back the clock on Women’s rights (and gay rights as well). Just one example, Focus on the Family.

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(An example of the crap it is: Disney cartoons are now bad and should be banned for being too "hetreonormative." They are a form of patriarchal oppression.)

Relax, nobody is going to ban Disney Cartoons. Disney does perpetuate a restricted way of thinking and I see nothing wrong with people pointing that out. It's called freedom of speech.

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And really Marc, not having a couple of types of birth control covered is the same a the whipping of rape victims or the shooting of women that commit adultery or selling them as sex slaves?

NO FUCKING SHIT! (tell me something I don’t know, Sherlock)

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Two women or two men not being able to get married in a state is the same as them being beheaded?

Obviously not. Nor at any point have I said so. So why do you and other keep pretending I do think such things despite my repeating – several times (Posts 8, 12, 20, 26, 29, 33, 41, 47) – that I do not?

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Your moral equivalency is disgusting.

Ah. Here we go. The answer to my question. You want to give yourself an ego stroke off by pretending that you are morally superior. But I never engaged in morally equivalency here. You are the one who brought the two situations (Muslim enslavement of girls and Christian attacks upon women’s rights) into comparison.

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So why is invoking Islam in order to enslave people just hunky-dory.

Again, when did I ever say anything like that? It is a conclusion that you and others have jumped to. It is a conclusion that I suspect you wanted to jump to, otherwise, why (I ask again) bring the two situations into comparison?

I repeat: you never started this thread with the intention of drawing attention to human rights violations perpetrated by Muslims. The last line in your OP makes it clear that your intention is to denigrate the fight against would be Christian oppression here in America by drawing a comparison between the two and then denigrating anyone who dares criticizes Christians behaving badly in the face of Muslim atrocities because the later is worse than the former.

But you fail because the comparison is arbitrary. Again I ask, if someone gets punched in the nose, should we ignore it because someone else is being murdered somewhere in the world? Please take a look at the following video: Christian Street Preachers Assaulted at Gay Pride Festival in Seattle

In this video we see a group of people – presumably liberals – give in to the mob mentality and assault a man who was only exercising his freedom of speech. He was hit several times but he was not enslaved or beheaded. Personally, I find this outrageous, bullies – and I don’t give a fuck what their political stripe is – piss me off! By your example however, I have to presume that it doesn’t bother you and you want this to be ignored. If you have any objections to how this individual was treated, then you will be engaging in moral equivalency – how disgusting.

Aside from the fact that both situations arise from human nature, the reality is that the one situation (mob attacks street preacher) has nothing to do with the other (Muslims behead people). To condemn the one is not to endorse the other. To pretend otherwise is dishonest.

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If you read the link, you would have seen the discussion about how the Islam religion (Koran and Hadiths) allows, justifies, encourages, and demands slavery.


I didn't need to read the link because I had already learned that in a fabulous place called collage (among the things they teach you there – critical thinking, like how to avoid jumping to conclusions by NOT making baseless presumptions)

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Because in Marc's world slavery does not restrict rights?


Oh for fuck’s sake!

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Apparently not being allowed to drive a car because you are a woman does not either.

Or having to have a male chaperone.

Or not being allowed to laugh.

Those are perfectly sensible rules and not restrictions at all.


And the whirligig goes on . . .




deathtothepixies -> RE: Wanna buy a slave? (9/8/2014 4:36:40 PM)

It's black and white Marc, you are either with us or against us.

If you don't hate Muslims then you must hate Christians, you don't appear to be hating Muslims enough you lefty libtard so you must hate Christians, republicans and America.

It's your sort of thinking that is bringing the world to its knees.

O'Bummer should be nuking every towel headed country to fuck, every god fearing American should have an American made gun in their hand to do their God's work.

This is your last warning Marc, stop being so fucking awkward, it's people like you who think they see a slightly bigger picture that hold the rest of the righteous world back, selfish fuck




Politesub53 -> RE: Wanna buy a slave? (9/8/2014 4:51:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

Interesting sig there, BamaD. That's Thomas Paine who was chased out of England for being a socialist.



And America........ after supporting the revolution.

And France.......... after supporting the revolution.

Ironic huh NG. [;)]


Ironically both America and France later started to view Paine as a hero.




Politesub53 -> RE: Wanna buy a slave? (9/8/2014 4:54:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

Interesting sig there, BamaD. That's Thomas Paine who was chased out of England for being a socialist.


He was a radical, not the same thing.



Lmfao.......... Too fucking funny Bama, just too fucking funny. Try reading exactly what Paine was radical about.




Aylee -> RE: Wanna buy a slave? (9/8/2014 5:52:37 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

How about talking about Christians involved in child abuse, or the sex trade, or sex tourism to Asia. FFS the whole argument from the right seems to be, all Muslims are bad but we are not. How about talking about Pol Pot and Hitler being raised as good Catholics, or the links between Hitler and Pope Pius. How about Stalin who was raised to be a Catholic Priest and Revived the Russian Orthodox Church.

How about realising that just as some Christians Muslims and Atheists and Budhists are arseholes, the majority are not. Its not fucking difficult.




Sure, there are bad people in any culture, but outliers aren't at issue here, are they. But its all youve got for your goal to make things morally equivelant, which is an outrageous argument on your part.

Child abuse etc is illegal in the west, prosecuted with extreme prejudice...




Sorry Sanity. There are those who just do not see why holding up having sex with a nine year old as wonderful and righteous thing is EVIL and WRONG and most definitely something to HATE.




Aylee -> RE: Wanna buy a slave? (9/8/2014 5:55:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: dcnovice


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ORIGINAL: Aylee


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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

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Maybe a new thread is needed, along the lines of "I'm a right wing Christian and I hate fucking Muslims"

I've toyed with starting a thread called "Islam has some disturbing aspects. How can one respond?" But I suspect the discussion would swiftly deteriorate.


Disturbing aspects DC? It has some serious evils.


Or has something changed and slavery is no longer evil? It is just disturbing?

Suicide bombers: Evil or disturbing?

Pedophiles? Evil or disturbing?

Deathtothepixies clearly named the proposed thread more accurately than I did.


Except that I am not Christian.




dcnovice -> RE: Wanna buy a slave? (9/8/2014 6:21:48 PM)

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Except that I am not Christian.

Details, details. He was 2/3 right then.

More to the point, his title captured the tone of posts that would almost certainly have swamped such a thread.




BamaD -> RE: Wanna buy a slave? (9/8/2014 6:30:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

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Except that I am not Christian.

Details, details. He was 2/3 right then.

More to the point, his title captured the tone of posts that would almost certainly have swamped such a thread.

And you misjudge us.
"Why Christians are the worlds greatest evil" would get a big response what with those who believe it having to go back to the the battle of Jericho and the inquisition and thinking it proves that today's Christians want nothing more than to return to that.




dcnovice -> RE: Wanna buy a slave? (9/8/2014 7:43:25 PM)

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Or has something changed and slavery is no longer evil? It is just disturbing?

Suicide bombers: Evil or disturbing?

Pedophiles? Evil or disturbing?

All are evil. None is unique to Islam.




BamaD -> RE: Wanna buy a slave? (9/8/2014 8:17:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

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Or has something changed and slavery is no longer evil? It is just disturbing?

Suicide bombers: Evil or disturbing?

Pedophiles? Evil or disturbing?

All are evil. None is unique to Islam.

This began with a condemnation of, ISIS, not Islam, which rules a fair amount of Syria and Iraq and condones these things. They happen illegally in the west and legally there. Slavery legally exists in virtually no non-islamic country. That makes it far worse. Christians are, worldwide more likely to be faced with violent persecution than any other group. However, ISIS is trying to change that, they violently persecute everyone who sees anything diferently, including other Moslems




Aylee -> RE: Wanna buy a slave? (9/8/2014 8:24:40 PM)


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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

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Except that I am not Christian.

Details, details. He was 2/3 right then.

More to the point, his title captured the tone of posts that would almost certainly have swamped such a thread.


Okay. . . but that begs the point of why I would ENJOY fucking Muslims? They treat women horribly. This would be a boundary issue for me.

And when I have taken the political compass tests or whatever they are called, I do not come out on the "right wing" area.

In any case, I only needed to disprove one part of the statement for it not to apply to me. This is not a Meatloaf song.




Politesub53 -> RE: Wanna buy a slave? (9/9/2014 4:30:37 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Aylee

Sorry Sanity. There are those who just do not see why holding up having sex with a nine year old as wonderful and righteous thing is EVIL and WRONG and most definitely something to HATE.


Care to point out where anyone has made such a claim ?




mnottertail -> RE: Wanna buy a slave? (9/9/2014 8:10:47 AM)

Jerry Lee Lewis?





NorthernGent -> RE: Wanna buy a slave? (9/9/2014 1:33:36 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Jerry Lee Lewis?



Just been married again hasn't he, Ron?

He was no Elvis.

Put the two of 'em on a stage together and Elvis would have been the one you'd notice.






Marc2b -> RE: Wanna buy a slave? (9/9/2014 3:15:47 PM)

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Just been married again hasn't he, Ron?

He was no Elvis.

Put the two of 'em on a stage together and Elvis would have been the one you'd notice.


Yeah but Lewis' after show party is the one you'd want to go to. [8D]




Aylee -> RE: Wanna buy a slave? (9/9/2014 5:00:26 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53


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ORIGINAL: Aylee

Sorry Sanity. There are those who just do not see why holding up having sex with a nine year old as wonderful and righteous thing is EVIL and WRONG and most definitely something to HATE.


Care to point out where anyone has made such a claim ?



The Koran and the Hadiths. Mohammed (PBUH) had sex with a 9 year old girl a lot. In fact added some verses in to make it look all Kosher with Allah. It is a cornerstone of Islam.




deathtothepixies -> RE: Wanna buy a slave? (9/9/2014 5:03:23 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Aylee


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53


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ORIGINAL: Aylee

Sorry Sanity. There are those who just do not see why holding up having sex with a nine year old as wonderful and righteous thing is EVIL and WRONG and most definitely something to HATE.


Care to point out where anyone has made such a claim ?



The Koran and the Hadiths. Mohammed (PBUH) had sex with a 9 year old girl a lot. In fact added some verses in to make it look all Kosher with Allah. It is a cornerstone of Islam.

fucking 9 year old girls is a cornerstone of Islam, got it, thanks




Aylee -> RE: Wanna buy a slave? (9/9/2014 6:11:10 PM)


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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies


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ORIGINAL: Aylee


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53


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ORIGINAL: Aylee

Sorry Sanity. There are those who just do not see why holding up having sex with a nine year old as wonderful and righteous thing is EVIL and WRONG and most definitely something to HATE.


Care to point out where anyone has made such a claim ?



The Koran and the Hadiths. Mohammed (PBUH) had sex with a 9 year old girl a lot. In fact added some verses in to make it look all Kosher with Allah. It is a cornerstone of Islam.

fucking 9 year old girls is a cornerstone of Islam, got it, thanks


The Koran describes Mohammad's life: "as beautiful pattern of conduct for anyone whose hope is in Allah" (33:21)
Also
"an exalted standard of character" (68:4)

The Hadiths:

Muslim (8:3309) - Mohammad consummated his marriage to Aisha when she was only nine.

Bukhari (62:18) - Aisha's father, Abu Bakr, wasn't on board at first, but Mohammad explained how the rules of their religion made it possible.

Muslim (8:3311) - The girl took her dolls with her to Mohammad's house (something to play with when the "prophet" was not having sex with her).

Bukhari (6:298) - Mohammad would take a bath with the little girl and fondle her.

Bukhari (93:639) - The Prophet of Islam would recite the 'HolyKoran' with his head in Aisha's lap, when she was menstruating.




Yeppers. This is what you should emulate. A cornerstone of Islam.




Sanity -> RE: Wanna buy a slave? (9/10/2014 5:58:57 AM)


After 150,000 deaths, the ideology of peace has carved out some major concessions in the Philippines:

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Philippines plans to give Muslims autonomous zone

MANILA, Philippines (AP) — The president of the overwhelmingly Catholic Philippines proposed Wednesday to give Muslims in the south the ability to run their own government under their own flag, part of a peace plan aimed at ending a four-decade rebellion that has killed 150,000 people.

The draft law submitted by President Benigno Aquino III to Congress fleshes out a peace deal signed in March by the country's largest Muslim insurgent group, the 11,000-strong Moro Islamic Liberation Front.

The autonomous region in the southern island of Mindanao, to be called Bangsamoro, would get its own 60-member parliament that would wield exclusive power over such areas as agriculture, trade, tourism and education.

Under the proposal, Islamic Shariah law would apply to Muslims in the region, but the country's justice system would continue to apply to non-Muslims. The Moro group has renounced the terrorist acts of extremist groups, including the Islamic State, which seeks to impose a harsh version of Shariah law in areas under its control in Syria and Iraq.

But at least three smaller Muslim rebel groups oppose the autonomy deal and have vowed to fight it...

[img]http://l1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/EiO7nZeVw1E80D_dupT7Ww--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTY1NjtweW9mZj0wO3E9NzU7dz05NjA-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/c54d62f2a1f047235f0f6a706700c4bb.jpg[/img]


So, even after allowing Islamists their Shariah law, the killing may well go on.




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