DomKen -> RE: Gop trying to break science education again (9/15/2014 7:28:53 PM)
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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant I'm saying, if they're sworn enemies of the fossil fuels, don't accept monies from those foundations built up mainly from fossil fuel money...and let's not forget Big Tobacco...and accept from only from the believers in their cause. No. You argued both that it was wrong that it got money from a foundation funded by a guy who invested some of his fortune in fossil fuel and wrong to get money from environmentalists. So again where can environmental groups get money without offending your delicate sensibilities? You're being a hypocrite. You're leaving environmentalists with no where to turn to for funds. you keep saying that I have a problem with them accepting money from left wing groups. I don't have a problem with it. I do have a problem with their hypocrisy. As for them accepting money from the left? They should...that's their believers. But, to say that only the scientists that are skeptics are directly influenced by their believers while the AGW scientists are not directly affected by their believers? That is bullshit indeed. You did. Shall I quote you? quote:
ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant Indirect vs direct...makes no difference for the AGW group, even when it's 6 figures? Maybe not. Or it could just be hypocrisy...is the money comes from a foundation whose stated goal is at odds with their major source of funding, just go with that statement and declare the money indirect. Even when it's fundingis direct and comes from groups such as the Barbara Streisand Foundation, Ben and Jerrys Foundation, The Heinz Endowments, the Heinz Family Foundation, the Schumann Center for Media and Democracy (current president = some guy from PBS named Bill Moyers), etc.... but that sum in the hundreds to the group that has a more skeptical outlook on the "looming" crisis? Yeah, that has a DIRECT effect on their findings. And the foundation in question is left wing. That some money to found the foundation came from sources that some blogger says should make it "bad" is immaterial. People are allowed to reform and people are allowed to spend their stock profits how they want. Some minor funds guy creating a foundation that donated a small sum is a long way from Exxon directly running API, Heartland and all the other groups they control.
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