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President Dither - 9/7/2014 1:53:25 PM   
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From Newsbusters -

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ABC Hits Obama From Left on Immigration, Hypes ‘Anger This Morning’ Among Hispanics

Following President Obama’s decision to delay any executive action on immigration reform, ABC’s Good Morning America did its best to hit the president from the left for failing to offer legal status to potentially millions of illegal immigrants currently living in this country.

On Sunday, September 7, co-host Dan Harris played up how “there is anger this morning in the Hispanic community over a decision made by President Obama. He had promised to take action soon on immigration reform, protecting families from the threat of deportation. But now he's saying he’s going to wait until after the elections in November.”

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jeffrey-meyer/2014/09/07/abc-hits-obama-left-immigration-hypes-anger-morning-among-hispanics#sthash.JIwan6nj.dpuf


Hit from his left because he has no cojones

If he feels its the right thing to do, its what he promised to do, then he should do it

But its all about politics rather than leadership, or whats right. So he dithers...

Like he did with the Keystone oil pipeline, how many times can he put that decision off

And ISIS, which he called JV back in January and for which he recently claimed he had "no strategy"

And now he wants to render ISIS "manageable"

His clusterfuck over Obamacare, why not just go all in with single payer rather than play his idiotic games...

What examples am I missing here?









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RE: President Dither - 9/7/2014 2:05:07 PM   
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Yes, it's about the mid-term elections. This is news to you?

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RE: President Dither - 9/7/2014 2:07:59 PM   
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Yes, it's about the mid-term elections. This is news to you?


Does it make you happy that he lies to brown people for their votes?

Do you have half a clue how many times he has promised them action, and then told them to talk to his ass after they voted for him?

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RE: President Dither - 9/7/2014 3:01:31 PM   
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He must really miss that "present" button, he had back in the day.

And after Wednesday's speech, he'll probably be missing the days when anyone thought his words were worth anything.

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RE: President Dither - 9/7/2014 5:01:26 PM   
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I'm sure that brown people are quite upset, although unsurprised, at this sort of casual racism too

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RE: President Dither - 9/7/2014 5:24:55 PM   
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Here's you problem, which you share with TheHeretic in spades.

"Obama walks moving his feet, putting one foot in front of the other."

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Sanity and TheHeretic: "Obama is moving around and can't keep his feet in place."

Honestly, it's tiresome.

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RE: President Dither - 9/7/2014 5:32:18 PM   
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Here's you problem, which you share with TheHeretic in spades.

"Obama walks moving his feet, putting one foot in front of the other."

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Sanity and TheHeretic: "Obama is moving around and can't keep his feet in place."

Honestly, it's tiresome.


Just Rich and I...

Hilarious how you try to use that card despite current news articles, such as the one I linked to above, describing how Barack is getting hit from his left for his dithering

But "it's just two posters on collarchat"


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RE: President Dither - 9/7/2014 5:33:57 PM   
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brown people




I'm sure that brown people are quite upset, although unsurprised, at this sort of casual racism too


Yeah, charge me with the hate crime of the century, what a horrible insensitive way to describe brown people...

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RE: President Dither - 9/7/2014 5:44:04 PM   
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brown people




I'm sure that brown people are quite upset, although unsurprised, at this sort of casual racism too


Yeah, charge me with the hate crime of the century, what a horrible insensitive way to describe brown people...


Obama is even losing the brown/black vote -- whatever the color, it's not racism. Unless it's racism if you call me or Sanity "white." You'd have to call us "ofay" or "cracker" to make it racism, noticing btw, that there is no "o" word or "c" word abbreviation universally accepted, either, yet both are actually as opprobrious as the "n" word because they are all typically used as expressions of racial hatred (except of course when rappers use the "n" word in which case they are just 'spressin' demselves).

Why is Obama losing votes everywhere? Because no one likes a simpering, ambivalent wimp. No one likes someone who lies to them repeatedly. Obama has set down his hard limits and his red lines and he has violated them. By bdsm standards, he should be banned. He is, I think, getting close to the point where even some Dems might start to support impeachment. He just needs to drop another 10 pts in the polls. Because the Dems would rather have Biden who plays the fool but is more wily than he is credited for, just as Palin is not the idiot she's portrayed as. And Biden is not anti-American, even though I disagree with him. People actually like him. I actually know some people who have interacted with him -- and political insiders will tell you that Biden is in private gracious and believable and in fact trusted. Obama is not, by Dems, either. Think about that. So even Dems might want to say sayonara to Obama before 1/20/17. Don't be shocked. You read it here first.


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RE: President Dither - 9/7/2014 6:46:30 PM   
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You and he are kind of hopeless. You are missing the point. All you do is criticize. All the fault with immigration reform lies with TEA PARTY. Congress is supposed to control immigration, and all Obama can do is modify its enforcement.

How about a little balance?

the S&P 500 is up 108 percent since the day Obama took office on Jan. 20, 2009, making him only the fifth president since the Great Depression to enjoy a stock-market doubling.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/11/obama-stocks-soaring-romney_n_4254727.html

The difference between the current estimate for Medicare’s 2019 budget and the estimate for the 2019 budget four years ago is about $95 billion dollars. That sum is greater than the government is expected to spend that year on unemployment insurance, welfare and Amtrak — combined. It’s equal to about one-fifth of the expected Pentagon budget in 2019. Widely discussed policy changes, like raising the estate tax, would generate just a tiny fraction of the budget savings relative to the recent changes in Medicare’s spending estimates.

In more concrete terms, the reduced estimates mean that the federal government’s long-term budget deficit is considerably less severe than commonly thought just a few years ago. The country still faces a projected deficit in future decades, thanks mostly to the retirement of the baby boomers and the high cost of medical care, but it is not likely to require the level of fiscal pain that many assumed several years ago.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/28/upshot/medicare-not-such-a-budget-buster-anymore.html?_r=0&abt=0002&abg=1


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RE: President Dither - 9/7/2014 6:58:13 PM   
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All you do is criticize.




P;ease provide a link to all of the posts in which you gushed Bush's praises?

Or Reagans praises, or Romneys praises, or McCains praises?

I won't be holding my breath...

Re immigration, here is your first clue - Barack is delaying his "executive action" on immigration so that the Dems won't get their asses handed to them in the mid-terms any worse than they already will, because NOBODY is on board with him on this

The black unemployment rate in this country is between 11 and 12 percent, and he wants illegally authorize more cheap immigrant labor???






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RE: President Dither - 9/7/2014 7:25:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: cloudboy


Here's you problem, which you share with TheHeretic in spades.

"Obama walks moving his feet, putting one foot in front of the other."

---

Sanity and TheHeretic: "Obama is moving around and can't keep his feet in place."

Honestly, it's tiresome.


Just Rich and I...

Hilarious how you try to use that card despite current news articles, such as the one I linked to above, describing how Barack is getting hit from his left for his dithering

But "it's just two posters on collarchat"




Well, if you are going to quote the sack of shit, I suppose we need to add that Obama walks with his balls in Cloudboy's mouth, no matter what little stutterstep he throws.

We caught "Shrek: the Musical" with the Broadway cast a while back. The actor playing Farquaad did the entire show on his knees, and gave an excellent and athletic performance. I'm thinking he must have learned that from Obamabots.


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RE: President Dither - 9/7/2014 8:29:03 PM   
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There is no correlation between unemployment and immigration. There is a strong correlation between economic growth and immigration reform.

You are hyper-ignorant.

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RE: President Dither - 9/7/2014 8:49:10 PM   
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Flood the market with cheap labor when the unemployment rate is already dropping because people have given up trying to find work, and while the obvious correlation isn't something that a dishonest leftist will admit to, it still exists.

And why are you bragging about wall street. Do you even know why its at record levels, whats behind its rise? Aren't you an "own wall street" rioter, or sympathizer? Hypocritical much?

And if you really believe that deficit spending is slowing under Obama then you are either insane, or you are a liar.

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RE: President Dither - 9/7/2014 11:55:09 PM   
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Flood the market with cheap labor when the unemployment rate is already dropping because people have given up trying to find work, and while the obvious correlation isn't something that a dishonest leftist will admit to, it still exists.

And why are you bragging about wall street. Do you even know why its at record levels, whats behind its rise? Aren't you an "own wall street" rioter, or sympathizer? Hypocritical much?

And if you really believe that deficit spending is slowing under Obama then you are either insane, or you are a liar.


Could you please show some solid, verifiable data for both "illegal immigrants flooding the national marketplace with cheap labor" and "unemployment decreasing due more to people giving up, rather than other reasonable factors"?

Your making an argument, but without supporting evidence, there isn't much to the argument.

Who created that deficit in the first place, Sanity? Oh, the Republican Party! Since at the end of a Democrat's term in the White House, this nation was experiencing a surplus on the budget. Then we got a Republican into the White House and the surplus vanished within one year. Where were all those 'fiscal conservatives' when the deficit was out of whack thanks to the 'bush era tax cuts'? Comatose....

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RE: President Dither - 9/8/2014 4:54:15 AM   
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RE: President Dither - 9/8/2014 6:08:59 AM   
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From Newsbusters -

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ABC Hits Obama From Left on Immigration, Hypes ‘Anger This Morning’ Among Hispanics

Following President Obama’s decision to delay any executive action on immigration reform, ABC’s Good Morning America did its best to hit the president from the left for failing to offer legal status to potentially millions of illegal immigrants currently living in this country.

On Sunday, September 7, co-host Dan Harris played up how “there is anger this morning in the Hispanic community over a decision made by President Obama. He had promised to take action soon on immigration reform, protecting families from the threat of deportation. But now he's saying he’s going to wait until after the elections in November.”

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jeffrey-meyer/2014/09/07/abc-hits-obama-left-immigration-hypes-anger-morning-among-hispanics#sthash.JIwan6nj.dpuf



nothing will be done on immigration for another decade.. from either party.. nothing new in that.. I tend to ignore articles about immigration reform cuz its a big lie.. none of the politicians are interested in any kind of immigration reform.. they just dangle the carrot there for those dumb enough to believe them..

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RE: President Dither - 9/8/2014 6:15:52 AM   
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Yes, it's about the mid-term elections. This is news to you?



That's right. Can't concern himself with silly little issues right now. They have an election to win. After all what's more important, doing his job or trying to get as many votes as possible.

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RE: President Dither - 9/8/2014 6:23:07 AM   
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I'm sure that brown people are quite upset, although unsurprised, at this sort of casual racism too



I am not sure I understand you. Are you suggesting that obama holding off till after the elections is a racist move?

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RE: President Dither - 9/8/2014 6:30:20 AM   
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Blaming deficits on "the republicans' is the epitome of ignorance, your blather isnt worth reading


Agreed, the 2008 crash of the wests major economies was a mirage.

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