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stef -> Obama Outperforms Reagan On Jobs, Growth And Investing (9/8/2014 2:07:57 PM)

That's unpossible!

http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamhartung/2014/09/05/obama-outperforms-reagan-on-jobs-growth-and-investing/




Sanity -> RE: Obama Outperforms Reagan On Jobs, Growth And Investing (9/8/2014 2:16:24 PM)


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ORIGINAL: stef

That's unpossible!

http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamhartung/2014/09/05/obama-outperforms-reagan-on-jobs-growth-and-investing/


I blame the do-nothing Congress.




joether -> RE: Obama Outperforms Reagan On Jobs, Growth And Investing (9/8/2014 3:29:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity
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ORIGINAL: stef
That's unpossible!

http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamhartung/2014/09/05/obama-outperforms-reagan-on-jobs-growth-and-investing/

I blame the do-nothing Congress.


Even with the Republican/Tea Party hard at work trying to undermine the nation and the President, Mr. Obama...STILL...comes out on top! Don't recall former President Reagan having to deal with a sharp economic decline when he was taking office. Nor of Democrats being opposed to him and his party on anything and everything. From big issues to irrelevant/petty issues. Mr. Reagan did not have to deal with a major political party trying to undermine and shutdown the US Government (i.e. the Tea Party).

All in all, the President had done quite a lot of good for this nation. Its amusing to watch how conservatives and libertarians try their best to attack him on any issue they can think on. That the grand majority of those attacks ultimately fail. The ARRA proved to work for this nation, as did the ACA. That he eliminated the mastermind of 9/11 in a daring assault, is something no previous Republican President would have had the balls to perform. President Obama has many accomplishments; an amusing that conservatives/libertarians cant handle that list!

If Hillary was not running for President, and Mr. Obama wanted a third term....I'd vote for him. Why remove a good thing?




subrob1967 -> RE: Obama Outperforms Reagan On Jobs, Growth And Investing (9/8/2014 5:25:35 PM)

FR

um no, you can buy the smoke this administration is blowing up your ass Stef, but here in the real world your link, just like yourself is total shit.




cloudboy -> RE: Obama Outperforms Reagan On Jobs, Growth And Investing (9/8/2014 5:42:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

FR

um no, you can buy the smoke this administration is blowing up your ass Stef, but here in the real world your link, just like yourself is total shit.


Translation: Facts don't matter to me, and I didn't have a 401K account that lay decimated before me in 2008.





dcnovice -> RE: Obama Outperforms Reagan On Jobs, Growth And Investing (9/8/2014 5:50:19 PM)

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your link, just like yourself is total shit.

Which points in the Forbes piece do you dispute?




Aylee -> RE: Obama Outperforms Reagan On Jobs, Growth And Investing (9/8/2014 7:40:35 PM)

I think the issue is this:

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According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), in 2007 on the eve of the recession, there were 146.6 million Americans working. Today, there are 145.8 million Americans in jobs. So nearly 7 years later, we are still 800,000 jobs below the previous peak. That’s some jobs recovery.

But the missing jobs in this economic recovery are much higher than that. A new analysis of the labor force numbers by Heritage Foundation economists places the real jobs deficit in America closer to 5.5 million, even after accounting for changes in population and demographics.


Article from the end of June : http://dailysignal.com/2014/06/28/disappearing-labor-force/

So even with 142 added, we are still at a jobs deficit. And I do not buy that real and total unemployment is only at 6.1 %




TheHeretic -> RE: Obama Outperforms Reagan On Jobs, Growth And Investing (9/8/2014 8:09:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: stef

That's unpossible!



If Comrade Napoleon says it, it must be true, right Squealer?

(Did you mean to post this election season press release in Random Stupidity, Stef?)




DaNewAgeViking -> RE: Obama Outperforms Reagan On Jobs, Growth And Investing (9/8/2014 8:10:13 PM)

The interesting thing about this is that Obama achieved these results despite everything Wall Street and their TP toadies could throw at him.
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TheHeretic -> RE: Obama Outperforms Reagan On Jobs, Growth And Investing (9/8/2014 8:23:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

Which points in the Forbes piece do you dispute?



I'm sure there will be a good debunking over the next few days from several sources with better resources than I have available, DC, but it doesn't pass the sniff test coming in the door.

Are you familiar with how they achieved that remarkable drop in auto fatalities, when the national 55 mph speed limit came in during the 70's? They recalculated the determination for cause of death.




Aylee -> RE: Obama Outperforms Reagan On Jobs, Growth And Investing (9/8/2014 8:25:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic


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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

Which points in the Forbes piece do you dispute?



I'm sure there will be a good debunking over the next few days from several sources with better resources than I have available, DC, but it doesn't pass the sniff test coming in the door.

Are you familiar with how they achieved that remarkable drop in auto fatalities, when the national 55 mph speed limit came in during the 70's? They recalculated the determination for cause of death.


I thought it was the seat belt campaign.




TheHeretic -> RE: Obama Outperforms Reagan On Jobs, Growth And Investing (9/8/2014 8:43:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Aylee

I thought it was the seat belt campaign.



Hit Wikipedia for the list that shows annual fatalities. You'll find a one-time big drop. Prior to that, if you died within 72 hours of a crash, you were an auto fatality. Afterwards, you had to die within 24 hours to be counted that way. It's mathemagic!




Sanity -> RE: Obama Outperforms Reagan On Jobs, Growth And Investing (9/8/2014 9:18:28 PM)


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stef -> RE: Obama Outperforms Reagan On Jobs, Growth And Investing (9/8/2014 9:54:10 PM)


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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

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your link, just like yourself is total shit.

Which points in the Forbes piece do you dispute?

He can't answer that yet, he's still trying to sound out the big words. Give him some time to get through it. A month should suffice.




Kirata -> RE: Obama Outperforms Reagan On Jobs, Growth And Investing (9/9/2014 12:06:02 AM)


Just for balance, yanno...

Obama Outperformed Reagan? Hardly
"There are three types of lies; Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics." - Mark Twain ...a large part of the drop in the U-3 unemployment rate is due to the increase in the number of individuals excluded from the workforce.

Reagan vs. Obama: These 5 Charts Prove Who Was the Better President
Reagan’s economy created 15.8 million new jobs, but Obama’s has only produced 3.2 million over five years. And… fewer people are working now than six years ago.

K.






Musicmystery -> RE: Obama Outperforms Reagan On Jobs, Growth And Investing (9/9/2014 3:31:20 AM)


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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic


quote:

ORIGINAL: dcnovice

Which points in the Forbes piece do you dispute?



I'm sure there will be a good debunking over the next few days from several sources with better resources than I have available, DC, but it doesn't pass the sniff test coming in the door.

Are you familiar with how they achieved that remarkable drop in auto fatalities, when the national 55 mph speed limit came in during the 70's? They recalculated the determination for cause of death.

I'm still laughing at "Reagan is the economic president" -- on what planet?

Give me quadruple the national debt to spend and I'll stimulate the economy too...short term.




Zonie63 -> RE: Obama Outperforms Reagan On Jobs, Growth And Investing (9/9/2014 7:13:30 AM)

FR

I don't think it's a valid measure to look at the state of the country while a President is still in office. Look at the country 10-20 years after they leave office, and that will give us a better indication of what kind of job they did and what kind of legacy they've left.




cloudboy -> RE: Obama Outperforms Reagan On Jobs, Growth And Investing (9/9/2014 7:18:34 AM)


• America will create about 2.5 million new jobs in 2014.

• “As this unemployment chart shows, President Obama’s job creation kept unemployment from peaking at as high a level as President Reagan, and promoted people into the workforce faster than President Reagan.

• “President Obama has achieved a 6.1% unemployment rate in his sixth year, fully one year faster than President Reagan did. At this point in his presidency, President Reagan was still struggling with 7.1% unemployment, and he did not reach into the mid-low 6% range for another full year. So, despite today’s number, the Obama administration has still done considerably better at job creating and reducing unemployment than did the Reagan administration.

• “We forecast unemployment will fall to around 5.4% by summer, 2015. A rate President Reagan was unable to achieve during his two terms.”

• “What’s now clear is that the Obama administration policies have outperformed the Reagan administration policies for job creation and unemployment reduction. Even though Reagan had the benefit of a growing Boomer class to ignite economic growth, while Obama has been forced to deal with a retiring workforce developing special needs. During the eight years preceding Obama there was a net reduction in jobs in America. We now are rapidly moving toward higher, sustainable jobs growth.”

• Economically, President Obama’s administration has outperformed President Reagan’s in all commonly watched categories.

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The US economy does much better when it is not WAR-MONGERING. The Carter Recession - VIETNAM. The GWB Great Recession -- Afghanistan and IRAQ.

The War Mongers are chirping up again, and Obama recently said that engaging ISIS would probably be a three year effort.




mnottertail -> RE: Obama Outperforms Reagan On Jobs, Growth And Investing (9/9/2014 7:53:41 AM)

So, why wouldnt St. Wrinklemeat also have the equivalent problem of people dropping out of the workforce? Answer, He would have, so............next stupid slobber from the ignorant?

Such a nutsucker meme would not be affected by any magic underpants or how much the president 'loves' america, or even that his administration was the most scandal ridden in history, and he had to overcome some pretty scandal ridden administrations to do that.

LOL. People who have intelligence can see nutsuckers felch this asswipe you know.




thishereboi -> RE: Obama Outperforms Reagan On Jobs, Growth And Investing (9/10/2014 6:59:27 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: stef

That's unpossible!

http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamhartung/2014/09/05/obama-outperforms-reagan-on-jobs-growth-and-investing/



Not really. And to someone like me who hated Regan it's not even much of a surprise.




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