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thompsonx -> RE: Never Forget! Sept 11th, A Day of Infamy (9/18/2014 5:25:18 PM)
ORIGINAL: Sanity quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent Didn't the Americans (government) invite him to waltz into Kuwait? Was that before or after we didnt land on the moon Even a right wing asshole could google up april gilespie(u.s. ambasador to iraq) and her conversations with sodamndinsane concerning his position on kuwait. Are you the only right wing asshole who cannot do that? Or is this just your way of getting both feet in your mouth at the same time.

Sanity -> RE: Never Forget! Sept 11th, A Day of Infamy (9/18/2014 5:27:02 PM)
Feeling a wee bit defensive, little boy? [:D] Leave the lunatic fringe conspiracy theories to RealOne & your cheeks wouldn't burn so badly when you get called out on your dopy rantings

thompsonx -> RE: Never Forget! Sept 11th, A Day of Infamy (9/18/2014 5:33:10 PM)
ORIGINAL: Sanity Feeling a wee bit defensive, little boy? [:D] Leave the lunatic fringe conspiracy theories to RealOne & your cheeks wouldn't burn so badly when you get called out on your dopy rantings [8\|]

DaNewAgeViking -> RE: Never Forget! Sept 11th, A Day of Infamy (9/18/2014 7:22:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx ORIGINAL: Sanity Feeling a wee bit defensive, little boy? [:D] Leave the lunatic fringe conspiracy theories to RealOne & your cheeks wouldn't burn so badly when you get called out on your dopy rantings [8\|] http://zapatopi.net/afdb/et/afdb/

MrRodgers -> RE: Never Forget! Sept 11th, A Day of Infamy (9/18/2014 9:39:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DaNewAgeViking quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx ORIGINAL: Sanity Feeling a wee bit defensive, little boy? [:D] Leave the lunatic fringe conspiracy theories to RealOne & your cheeks wouldn't burn so badly when you get called out on your dopy rantings [8\|] http://zapatopi.net/afdb/et/afdb/ For those who need a little perspective, there is always Operation Northwoods, and that the greatest conspiracy theory in history...turned out to be true. This fact-free OP has gone in long enough...has it not ?

thishereboi -> RE: Never Forget! Sept 11th, A Day of Infamy (9/19/2014 4:43:00 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrRodgers quote: ORIGINAL: dcnovice quote: Well damn, maybe I should start a poll asking, "Do you know the story of what happened on 9/11?" and see how many other people vote "No." Well, you could. But I'm puzzled by the coyness of your replies. If you believe that the U.S. government is putting out an erroneous 9/11 story line, why not simply say what it is and why you disagree with it? Do you really want to rehash all of that ? Suffice it to say right or wrong, 9/11 is now solidly a part of American lore and as such, there will never be a grand jury. That there will not be, doesn't surprise me at all...there never is. It being accepted that enough of the American public does not want to know the answers to all of the unanswered questions, it becomes a personal choice as to how one wishes to live...either in a sort of smug satisfaction or debilitating cynicism. Take your pick. No need to rehash, just a few sentences explaining the real truth from one of you all knowing ones to us ignorant rabble. Maybe a small explanation of who the grand jury should have gone after. Should be simple unless of course you are just blowing hot air trying to imply you know something the majority of the country is too stupid to comprehend.

Aylee -> RE: Never Forget! Sept 11th, A Day of Infamy (9/19/2014 5:40:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail Well, many of us here knew that Saddam Hussein was not the guy behind 9/11 and had no WMD, and hadn't for about 12 years, as evidenced by his not doing a goddamn thing for those 12 years, after we kicked his ass for walking on kuwaits grass. And I am not real sure that ISIS is planning our demise either. Didn't the Americans (government) invite him to waltz into Kuwait? I haven't watched a great deal of news for a long time now, so don't know much of anything about ISIS except I've heard of the odd beheading. I've lost any sort of interest on what's going on in these places - completely saturated with the thing. 1500 sold into sexual slavery: http://www.uniraq.org/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=2373:srsg-bangura-and-srsg-mladenov-gravely-concerned-by-reports-of-sexual-violence-against-internally-displaced-persons&Itemid=605&lang=en Ethnic cleansing and mass rape: http://www.amnesty.org/en/news/gruesome-evidence-ethnic-cleansing-northern-iraq-islamic-state-moves-wipe-out-minorities-2014-0 More kidnapping and rape: http://fpif.org/surging-violence-women-iraq/ In his Sept. 10 speech laying out his plan for fighting IS, President Obama devoted just eight words to the issue: "They enslave, rape, and force women into marriage." Happy fun times in Mosul, including suicide by the victims: http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/06/13/iraq-security-un-rights-idINKBN0EO0U020140613 By the way, these are war crimes against citizens of their own country. Yet some would have you believe that IS is only doing this because the US picked on them. [8\|] It makes sense right, if you upset me I should go home and rape and kill my family members. The logic is impeccable. [8\|]

thompsonx -> RE: Never Forget! Sept 11th, A Day of Infamy (9/19/2014 6:42:40 AM)
ORIGINAL: Aylee By the way, these are war crimes against citizens of their own country. Yet some would have you believe that IS is only doing this because the US picked on them. [8\|] It makes sense right, if you upset me I should go home and rape and kill my family members. The logic is impeccable. [8\|] Same logic the founders used in the revolutionary war. Rape pillage and plunder against their neighbors who did not agree with them. It ain't rocket science it is just the history of your country.

NorthernGent -> RE: Never Forget! Sept 11th, A Day of Infamy (9/19/2014 1:53:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Feeling a wee bit defensive, little boy? [:D] Leave the lunatic fringe conspiracy theories to RealOne & your cheeks wouldn't burn so badly when you get called out on your dopy rantings We all have those moments when we thought we were right and it turned out we weren't. Some of us take it on the chin and investigate when someone says something that the host doesn't necessarily agree with. You, on the other hand, appear to be doomed to a fate of arguing from a bottomless pit of ignorance: perpetually. I thought that it was common knowledge that the US government left a few paper trails for the Iraqi to think it was a good idea to wander into Kuwait, but then knowledge isn't your strong point. You should read more and talk less until you get to the point where you have half a clue of what you're talking about.

Sanity -> RE: Never Forget! Sept 11th, A Day of Infamy (9/19/2014 8:13:47 PM)
Thanks for the hilarious wild-eyed lecturing over your crazed conspiracy theories, "gent" [:D] I needed a laugh tonight

MrRodgers -> RE: Never Forget! Sept 11th, A Day of Infamy (9/20/2014 1:44:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi quote: ORIGINAL: MrRodgers quote: ORIGINAL: dcnovice quote: Well damn, maybe I should start a poll asking, "Do you know the story of what happened on 9/11?" and see how many other people vote "No." Well, you could. But I'm puzzled by the coyness of your replies. If you believe that the U.S. government is putting out an erroneous 9/11 story line, why not simply say what it is and why you disagree with it? Do you really want to rehash all of that ? Suffice it to say right or wrong, 9/11 is now solidly a part of American lore and as such, there will never be a grand jury. That there will not be, doesn't surprise me at all...there never is. It being accepted that enough of the American public does not want to know the answers to all of the unanswered questions, it becomes a personal choice as to how one wishes to live...either in a sort of smug satisfaction or debilitating cynicism. Take your pick. No need to rehash, just a few sentences explaining the real truth from one of you all knowing ones to us ignorant rabble. Maybe a small explanation of who the grand jury should have gone after. Should be simple unless of course you are just blowing hot air trying to imply you know something the majority of the country is too stupid to comprehend. Well one need not go very deeply at all although there are gaping wholes in the 9/11 story the people got from govt. But suffice it to say, grand juries don't 'go after' people. Real investigators investigate to pursue ALL of the evidence and sufficient probable cause then supplies witnesses that would be compelled to testify before those grand juries. As I said in a previous thread in this subject, it has become and sadly so, that a sufficient majority of the American people simply don't care to have that investigation even to pursue the answers all of those unanswered questions on 9/11.

DomKen -> RE: Never Forget! Sept 11th, A Day of Infamy (9/20/2014 4:11:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Thanks for the hilarious wild-eyed lecturing over your crazed conspiracy theories, "gent" [:D] I needed a laugh tonight Here's the transcript of the meeting between Saddam and our ambassador. http://www.globalresearch.ca/gulf-war-documents-meeting-between-saddam-hussein-and-ambassador-to-iraq-april-glaspie/31145

Politesub53 -> RE: Never Forget! Sept 11th, A Day of Infamy (9/20/2014 5:22:39 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrRodgers Well one need not go very deeply at all although there are gaping wholes in the 9/11 story the people got from govt. But suffice it to say, grand juries don't 'go after' people. Real investigators investigate to pursue ALL of the evidence and sufficient probable cause then supplies witnesses that would be compelled to testify before those grand juries. As I said in a previous thread in this subject, it has become and sadly so, that a sufficient majority of the American people simply don't care to have that investigation even to pursue the answers all of those unanswered questions on 9/11. I am unsure you "Real investigators" should be using such a term, until you deliver some real evidence. So for the conspiracy nuts have delivered little other than doctored photos and inuendo. At least one of your number claims the poor souls in Auschwitz had "an "Olympic swimming pool"

Sanity -> RE: Never Forget! Sept 11th, A Day of Infamy (9/20/2014 8:52:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Thanks for the hilarious wild-eyed lecturing over your crazed conspiracy theories, "gent" [:D] I needed a laugh tonight Here's the transcript of the meeting between Saddam and our ambassador. http://www.globalresearch.ca/gulf-war-documents-meeting-between-saddam-hussein-and-ambassador-to-iraq-april-glaspie/31145 More "news articles" from your conspiracy-nut website: quote: The Global Crisis: Food, Water and Fuel. Three Fundamental Necessities of Life in Jeopardy Ebola Virus Patented by US Government in October 2009: “Invention Related to Novel Species of Human Ebola (hEbola) virus” Canada’s “Copy and Paste” Foreign Policy with Regard to Ukraine: Ottawa Supports US War Agenda directed against Russia Israel’s Support for Latin American Dictators: “Mothers of the Disappeared” Feel Gaza’s Pain The Benefits of Non-GMO Soy for Farmers: Less Birth Deformities, Lower Medicine Costs and More Profits The Ebola Virus Pandemic: “A Weapon of Mass Destruction”? Donors Will Fail Gaza Again Europe 2020 – Community or Empire? Is the EU Exploding? America Created Al-Qaeda and the ISIS Terror Group “The Benefits” of the Israeli Occupation: Gaza is a Weapons Testing Ground for Military Contractors Strategic Alliance between Russia and China: Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) on the Rise History: ‘Yes’ to Scotland Independence and Britain’s Waning Imperialism Monsanto’s RoundUp-Ready GMO Grass About to Be Approved and Fed to Cattle The CIA was “Training the ISIL” and Now it is being Asked to “Go After the ISIL” Dutch MH17 Investigation Omits US “Intel”. Fabrications and Omissions Supportive of US-NATO Agenda Directed against Russia Standards of "proof" such as this only helps prove what a real scientifical genius you are, dk So very impressive

DomKen -> RE: Never Forget! Sept 11th, A Day of Infamy (9/20/2014 1:07:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Thanks for the hilarious wild-eyed lecturing over your crazed conspiracy theories, "gent" [:D] I needed a laugh tonight Here's the transcript of the meeting between Saddam and our ambassador. http://www.globalresearch.ca/gulf-war-documents-meeting-between-saddam-hussein-and-ambassador-to-iraq-april-glaspie/31145 More "news articles" from your conspiracy-nut website: quote: The Global Crisis: Food, Water and Fuel. Three Fundamental Necessities of Life in Jeopardy Ebola Virus Patented by US Government in October 2009: “Invention Related to Novel Species of Human Ebola (hEbola) virus” Canada’s “Copy and Paste” Foreign Policy with Regard to Ukraine: Ottawa Supports US War Agenda directed against Russia Israel’s Support for Latin American Dictators: “Mothers of the Disappeared” Feel Gaza’s Pain The Benefits of Non-GMO Soy for Farmers: Less Birth Deformities, Lower Medicine Costs and More Profits The Ebola Virus Pandemic: “A Weapon of Mass Destruction”? Donors Will Fail Gaza Again Europe 2020 – Community or Empire? Is the EU Exploding? America Created Al-Qaeda and the ISIS Terror Group “The Benefits” of the Israeli Occupation: Gaza is a Weapons Testing Ground for Military Contractors Strategic Alliance between Russia and China: Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) on the Rise History: ‘Yes’ to Scotland Independence and Britain’s Waning Imperialism Monsanto’s RoundUp-Ready GMO Grass About to Be Approved and Fed to Cattle The CIA was “Training the ISIL” and Now it is being Asked to “Go After the ISIL” Dutch MH17 Investigation Omits US “Intel”. Fabrications and Omissions Supportive of US-NATO Agenda Directed against Russia Standards of "proof" such as this only helps prove what a real scientifical genius you are, dk So very impressive Do you want other sources? Ok. foreign policy magazine linking to wikilinks transcript of the meeting http://www.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/01/08/wikiileaks_april_glaspie_and_saddam_hussein NY Times http://www.nytimes.com/1991/07/13/world/us-messages-on-july-1990-meeting-of-hussein-and-american-ambassador.html

Sanity -> RE: Never Forget! Sept 11th, A Day of Infamy (9/20/2014 1:19:25 PM)
From your NYT link: quote: "I told Mubarak," Saddam said, that "nothing will happen until the meeting." And nothing will happen during or after the meeting if the Kuwaitis will at last "give us some hope." The Ambassador said she was delighted to hear this good news. EAGLEBURGER MESSAGE Please deliver the following as an oral response from President Bush to Saddam Hussein's message. From your FP link: quote: In an article headlined "Why One U.S. Diplomat Didn't Cause the Gulf War," Kenner argues that the new release shows that Glaspie should not be blamed for the U.S. failure to make a clear deterrent warning to Saddam. Not quite the propaganda coup you had promised, eh dk

DomKen -> RE: Never Forget! Sept 11th, A Day of Infamy (9/20/2014 2:43:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity From your NYT link: quote: "I told Mubarak," Saddam said, that "nothing will happen until the meeting." And nothing will happen during or after the meeting if the Kuwaitis will at last "give us some hope." The Ambassador said she was delighted to hear this good news. EAGLEBURGER MESSAGE Please deliver the following as an oral response from President Bush to Saddam Hussein's message. From your FP link: quote: In an article headlined "Why One U.S. Diplomat Didn't Cause the Gulf War," Kenner argues that the new release shows that Glaspie should not be blamed for the U.S. failure to make a clear deterrent warning to Saddam. Not quite the propaganda coup you had promised, eh dk liar. the FP article goes on quote: In a now famous interview with the Iraqi leader, U.S. Ambassador April Glaspie told Saddam, ‘[W]e have no opinion on the Arab-Arab conflicts, like your border disagreement with Kuwait.' The U.S. State Department had earlier told Saddam that Washington had ‘no special defense or security commitments to Kuwait.' The United States may not have intended to give Iraq a green light, but that is effectively what it did." And the transcript of the meeting supports that. You really are completely full of shit on this.

Sanity -> RE: Never Forget! Sept 11th, A Day of Infamy (9/20/2014 2:52:53 PM)
What the FP article is trying to get through your thick head is that they were wrong about Glaspie when they blamed Saddams invasion on him in years previously Even that sentence you quoted says nothing LIKE Saddam had a green light to invade Iraq, unless you are totally desperate to blame everything Saddam on a US ambassador Let me break it down a little further, because I know you and NG are stupid These hacks arent even making their weak, pathetic case against Bush, they were blaming the Iraq invasion of Kuwait on a US ambassador for misspeaking And they even walked that back here in the article you presented

Politesub53 -> RE: Never Forget! Sept 11th, A Day of Infamy (9/20/2014 4:08:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity What the FP article is trying to get through your thick head is that they were wrong about Glaspie when they blamed Saddams invasion on him in years previously Even that sentence you quoted says nothing LIKE Saddam had a green light to invade Iraq, unless you are totally desperate to blame everything Saddam on a US ambassador Let me break it down a little further, because I know you and NG are stupid These hacks arent even making their weak, pathetic case against Bush, they were blaming the Iraq invasion of Kuwait on a US ambassador for misspeaking And they even walked that back here in the article you presented You cant even get the ambassadors sex right, let alone any details.

Sanity -> RE: Never Forget! Sept 11th, A Day of Infamy (9/20/2014 4:17:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity What the FP article is trying to get through your thick head is that they were wrong about Glaspie when they blamed Saddams invasion on him in years previously Even that sentence you quoted says nothing LIKE Saddam had a green light to invade Iraq, unless you are totally desperate to blame everything Saddam on a US ambassador Let me break it down a little further, because I know you and NG are stupid These hacks arent even making their weak, pathetic case against Bush, they were blaming the Iraq invasion of Kuwait on a US ambassador for misspeaking And they even walked that back here in the article you presented You cant even get the ambassadors sex right, let alone any details. At least the inbred islanders can nit-pick No one can can ever take that from them

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