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DerangedUnit -> sex slaves, well utilized or not? (9/22/2014 1:04:42 PM)

this is a question based on a discussion i had the other day where i was asked why men would behave a certain way... i didn't really have an answer. it came up again today so i figured i'd check out the archives but all i could find were threads(if you have a link to one that would be helpful) that stated what i thought without the "why". so here it goes:

how often do people looking for sex slaves actually use them for sex?

what i have found is that most only want sex a couple times a week, or once a day ranges near the top... he said that seems pointless, why have something if you dont use it.

so is there anyone who has experience with sex slaves that would like to share? or slaves that have encountered this as well or the opposite? feel free to leave an opinion if you dont look for sex slaves yourself but have encountered it as well.

i have my opinions but since they are limited to my own experiences and those of people i've been involved with i figured i'd see if someone could offer a broader scope of:

why someone would search for a sex slave if they dont intend to use it as such?







DarkSteven -> RE: sex slaves, well utilized or not? (9/22/2014 2:05:35 PM)

1. Maybe they want to try some form of sex, such as anal, that they don't think they'd get elsewhere.

2. Maybe they just want a free hooker.

3. Maybe they don't really want a service or play sub, only sex, and can't conceive of a slave that needs more use than twice a week.




crazyml -> RE: sex slaves, well utilized or not? (9/22/2014 2:10:03 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DerangedUnit
how often do people looking for sex slaves actually use them for sex?


I kind of got stuck here, because I suspect (and I'm available to be corrected on this) that 99.99% of people that people who go looking for sex slaves never actually find one.






IrishMist -> RE: sex slaves, well utilized or not? (9/22/2014 2:10:46 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DerangedUnit

this is a question based on a discussion i had the other day where i was asked why men would behave a certain way... i didn't really have an answer. it came up again today so i figured i'd check out the archives but all i could find were threads(if you have a link to one that would be helpful) that stated what i thought without the "why". so here it goes:

how often do people looking for sex slaves actually use them for sex?

what i have found is that most only want sex a couple times a week, or once a day ranges near the top... he said that seems pointless, why have something if you dont use it.

so is there anyone who has experience with sex slaves that would like to share? or slaves that have encountered this as well or the opposite? feel free to leave an opinion if you dont look for sex slaves yourself but have encountered it as well.

i have my opinions but since they are limited to my own experiences and those of people i've been involved with i figured i'd see if someone could offer a broader scope of:

why someone would search for a sex slave if they dont intend to use it as such?





What DS said, but it could also be that perhaps their idea of a 'sex slave' is different than what we (in general) would consider a sex slave to be.

Who knows

As long as those involved are on the same 'page', who cares what we think about it.




smileforme50 -> RE: sex slaves, well utilized or not? (9/22/2014 2:38:08 PM)


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ORIGINAL: IrishMist


quote:

ORIGINAL: DerangedUnit

this is a question based on a discussion i had the other day where i was asked why men would behave a certain way... i didn't really have an answer. it came up again today so i figured i'd check out the archives but all i could find were threads(if you have a link to one that would be helpful) that stated what i thought without the "why". so here it goes:

how often do people looking for sex slaves actually use them for sex?

what i have found is that most only want sex a couple times a week, or once a day ranges near the top... he said that seems pointless, why have something if you dont use it.

so is there anyone who has experience with sex slaves that would like to share? or slaves that have encountered this as well or the opposite? feel free to leave an opinion if you dont look for sex slaves yourself but have encountered it as well.

i have my opinions but since they are limited to my own experiences and those of people i've been involved with i figured i'd see if someone could offer a broader scope of:

why someone would search for a sex slave if they dont intend to use it as such?





What DS said, but it could also be that perhaps their idea of a 'sex slave' is different than what we (in general) would consider a sex slave to be.

Who knows

As long as those involved are on the same 'page', who cares what we think about it.



I agree.... ==> IMO <== I think the term "sex slave" can describe a variety of things.

It can be someone who will perform a particular act/kink that nobody else will for the person looking for a slave.

I've talked to men who want a sex slave that they can trade around with their friends

I've talked to guys who describe what they want as a "sex slave" when all they are looking for is someone who will never say "no". Maybe they're just tired of their wives and girlfriends only giving it to them once a week when they really want it 3 times a week.

Who knows?




DerangedUnit -> RE: sex slaves, well utilized or not? (9/22/2014 5:36:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: smileforme50


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ORIGINAL: IrishMist


quote:

ORIGINAL: DerangedUnit

this is a question based on a discussion i had the other day where i was asked why men would behave a certain way... i didn't really have an answer. it came up again today so i figured i'd check out the archives but all i could find were threads(if you have a link to one that would be helpful) that stated what i thought without the "why". so here it goes:

how often do people looking for sex slaves actually use them for sex?

what i have found is that most only want sex a couple times a week, or once a day ranges near the top... he said that seems pointless, why have something if you dont use it.

so is there anyone who has experience with sex slaves that would like to share? or slaves that have encountered this as well or the opposite? feel free to leave an opinion if you dont look for sex slaves yourself but have encountered it as well.

i have my opinions but since they are limited to my own experiences and those of people i've been involved with i figured i'd see if someone could offer a broader scope of:

why someone would search for a sex slave if they dont intend to use it as such?





What DS said, but it could also be that perhaps their idea of a 'sex slave' is different than what we (in general) would consider a sex slave to be.

Who knows

As long as those involved are on the same 'page', who cares what we think about it.



I agree.... ==> IMO <== I think the term "sex slave" can describe a variety of things.

It can be someone who will perform a particular act/kink that nobody else will for the person looking for a slave.

I've talked to men who want a sex slave that they can trade around with their friends

I've talked to guys who describe what they want as a "sex slave" when all they are looking for is someone who will never say "no". Maybe they're just tired of their wives and girlfriends only giving it to them once a week when they really want it 3 times a week.

Who knows?



yeah the sharing/free hooker reason was one i gave, the other being that it's about appearances. they want to look like they have more need than they do... thanks for the opinion. everyone i know is either a sex or service slave on the sub side so i was wondering if it was just the ones i run into or if it was semi universal. he obviously just overestimates the libido of other men. but a girl trying to tell a guy that most guys dont need to have sex all day isn't very convincing for some reason :P





IrishMist -> RE: sex slaves, well utilized or not? (9/22/2014 5:42:21 PM)

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yeah the sharing/free hooker reason was one i gave, the other being that it's about appearances. they want to look like they have more need than they do... thanks for the opinion. everyone i know is either a sex or service slave on the sub side so i was wondering if it was just the ones i run into or if it was semi universal. he obviously just overestimates the libido of other men. but a girl trying to tell a guy that most guys dont need to have sex all day isn't very convincing for some reason :P


I have met others over the years who defined some of their girls as 'sex slaves'. These girls were, willingly, passed around their owners friends for sexual use.
I have also met some who defined their 'sex slaves' as girls who were available anytime, anywhere, for anything sexual.
And then, I have met some who simply had girl friends who were defined as sex slaves.

Each to their own. It's not up to me to tell them if they are right or wrong. As long as everyone is happy...none of my fucking business.




DerangedUnit -> RE: sex slaves, well utilized or not? (9/22/2014 5:58:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: IrishMist

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yeah the sharing/free hooker reason was one i gave, the other being that it's about appearances. they want to look like they have more need than they do... thanks for the opinion. everyone i know is either a sex or service slave on the sub side so i was wondering if it was just the ones i run into or if it was semi universal. he obviously just overestimates the libido of other men. but a girl trying to tell a guy that most guys dont need to have sex all day isn't very convincing for some reason :P


I have met others over the years who defined some of their girls as 'sex slaves'. These girls were, willingly, passed around their owners friends for sexual use.
I have also met some who defined their 'sex slaves' as girls who were available anytime, anywhere, for anything sexual.
And then, I have met some who simply had girl friends who were defined as sex slaves.

Each to their own. It's not up to me to tell them if they are right or wrong. As long as everyone is happy...none of my fucking business.


yeah im not saying it's right or wrong, obviously since i am a "sex slave" ive been with people who said i was their sex slave while i lived with them even though we never had sex. the conversation came up based on experience with it and my current wondering why people would say thats what they want if it's not the case... and since i didnt know their reasoning in the past, i asked.




RockaRolla -> RE: sex slaves, well utilized or not? (9/22/2014 6:33:21 PM)

While it wasn't really a slave dynamic, I was with a guy who wanted a purely sexual relationship. After getting together once, he would do the expected routine of only contacting me when he got horny. Impulsive as hell, would make plans for us to get together that night... and not show up. Fell off the radar for weeks at a time. Then he'd try again like there was nothing wrong with it. Put up for it way longer than I should have, but that's done now.

So my experience with that is similar to what you've described if not worse. It really baffles to me to this day. You HAD casual sex, dude. Why'd you keep walking away?




DerangedUnit -> RE: sex slaves, well utilized or not? (9/22/2014 8:00:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: RockaRolla

While it wasn't really a slave dynamic, I was with a guy who wanted a purely sexual relationship. After getting together once, he would do the expected routine of only contacting me when he got horny. Impulsive as hell, would make plans for us to get together that night... and not show up. Fell off the radar for weeks at a time. Then he'd try again like there was nothing wrong with it. Put up for it way longer than I should have, but that's done now.

So my experience with that is similar to what you've described if not worse. It really baffles to me to this day. You HAD casual sex, dude. Why'd you keep walking away?


oof that sounds awful... anytime someone finalizes plans with me and doesnt follow through i never see them again, because of people being flaky... but the casual side was not really what i was referring to. since it eas vanilla that makes sense but i tend to view "slavery" as something more serious, that could just be me though since i never get into relationships unless i've known the person for years first... good job on getting out of that, i dont know the details but from what you've said it doesnt sound pleasant.

the type of "sex slavery" i was referring to is where it is the slaves primary function to take care of the sexual needs of their partner... and her partner alone. and other responsibilities within the relationship are secondary. i figured it was more common...





FieryOpal -> RE: sex slaves, well utilized or not? (9/23/2014 6:06:07 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DerangedUnit

how often do people looking for sex slaves actually use them for sex?
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why someone would search for a sex slave if they dont intend to use it as such?

This strikes me as strange as well, having a sex slave or calling your sub your sex slave and then under-utilizing her or him???

I could not have just a sex slave in the strictest sense, because I can't see using a man for sex and not wanting him to be my mate, companion and partner.
There's also no way that I would share him--I'm too possessive for that. This doesn't mean that I wouldn't joke around about him being my sex slave or my love slave.

I would think that the type of person who wants a sex slave for nothing other than sexual gratification would be a sex addict with a strong libido, expecting sex multiple times daily. Once a day or every couple of days at the very minimum. If not, then it might be an ego insecurity issue where he's being a poseur.
That's what I would presume and would fall in line with the attitude of wanting sex on call, or sex on demand. If it's only going to be twice a week, then that's not really having a sex slave (and if this s-type is performing other duties and functions, then s/he is serving as a slave or submissive in general within the D/s dynamic). The sex provider would be more like a booty call by providing the benefits of a free hooker.

The way I see it, if a sex slave is going to get passed around, then her/his Dominant isn't a Master so much as he's merely a pimp. Even if no money changes hands, he is still in the position of personal gain by barter or freebies, calling in favors as needed, perhaps having something "over" on another man that he can use as leverage by pimping out his slave.




DesFIP -> RE: sex slaves, well utilized or not? (9/23/2014 8:12:05 AM)

If his sex drive only needs servicing twice a week, that's just who he is. But if his partner is a sex slave, then he might well be pleased as punch to always have those twice a week times without fail.




DerangedUnit -> RE: sex slaves, well utilized or not? (9/23/2014 11:42:08 AM)


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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal


quote:

ORIGINAL: DerangedUnit

how often do people looking for sex slaves actually use them for sex?
<snip>
why someone would search for a sex slave if they dont intend to use it as such?

This strikes me as strange as well, having a sex slave or calling your sub your sex slave and then under-utilizing her or him???

I could not have just a sex slave in the strictest sense, because I can't see using a man for sex and not wanting him to be my mate, companion and partner.
There's also no way that I would share him--I'm too possessive for that. This doesn't mean that I wouldn't joke around about him being my sex slave or my love slave.

I would think that the type of person who wants a sex slave for nothing other than sexual gratification would be a sex addict with a strong libido, expecting sex multiple times daily. Once a day or every couple of days at the very minimum. If not, then it might be an ego insecurity issue where he's being a poseur.
That's what I would presume and would fall in line with the attitude of wanting sex on call, or sex on demand. If it's only going to be twice a week, then that's not really having a sex slave (and if this s-type is performing other duties and functions, then s/he is serving as a slave or submissive in general within the D/s dynamic). The sex provider would be more like a booty call by providing the benefits of a free hooker.

The way I see it, if a sex slave is going to get passed around, then her/his Dominant isn't a Master so much as he's merely a pimp. Even if no money changes hands, he is still in the position of personal gain by barter or freebies, calling in favors as needed, perhaps having something "over" on another man that he can use as leverage by pimping out his slave.


yes, thank you. that was exactly what i was saying "shouldn't it be called what it is"




DesFIP -> RE: sex slaves, well utilized or not? (9/23/2014 12:09:38 PM)

Interesting because my first thought is that the only time he wants her to not be able to say no is when he wants sex, and that the rest of the time they're power equal.

Which isn't the same as a bedroom submissive who can have limits including no sex during migraines.




DerangedUnit -> RE: sex slaves, well utilized or not? (9/23/2014 2:53:40 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Interesting because my first thought is that the only time he wants her to not be able to say no is when he wants sex, and that the rest of the time they're power equal.

Which isn't the same as a bedroom submissive who can have limits including no sex during migraines.


Hmm i didnt think of it as being solely about whether or not you say no... and maybe it would explain some. of the reasoning, they want them not to object and when they do they end up not using them... but that seems submissive to me, like if that were the case they want the slave to be the instigator and 'drive the sexual energy'.

when using the term slave it implies a different setting than submissive. so while a bedroom sub may like kinky sex and go about their day. a sex slave(as i originally understood the term) makes the sexual needs of their partner priority, which could include dress, appearance, attitude, intellect, endurance or any number of things. just as a service slave doesnt just do chores but they dont stop being a slave, or a high protocol slave isnt on constantly. the power dynamics within the relationship dont change, just the focus. how people go about it may be different but the general function remains.





DesFIP -> RE: sex slaves, well utilized or not? (9/23/2014 8:11:46 PM)

It would only include dress if the guy was into that. If all he wants is sex whenever he wants it, and she's always game, then that's their definition.

Now personally, this would work for me. I could lie around all day waiting for him to want to use me and not spend my time doing laundry and running errands. But I'm envisioning it as being a harem girl, you don't have sex all the time, just when the sheik wants it.




sarzyness -> RE: sex slaves, well utilized or not? (9/24/2014 7:52:37 AM)

Hi! sorry, I'm not a Master but thought I could share a past experience...

I was once in a position where I had nowhere to live, so a Dom offered for me to move into his spare bedroom, in exchange for me being His sex slave.

We both had our own lives, I had my own room. It was a D/s dynamic, but quite relaxed. He wasn't really focused on my behavior, or expecting certain things from me or that nosey about my life. His only main rule that He was my only sexual partner whilst I was living there.

We usually had sex once or twice a day. It wasn't an option if I wasn't feeling it because that's what I was there for.





orgasmdenial12 -> RE: sex slaves, well utilized or not? (9/25/2014 11:37:25 AM)

It depends on my significant other's desires. It can range from 5 times a day to once a week. The point is not how often, the point is rights and servitude.




DesFIP -> RE: sex slaves, well utilized or not? (9/25/2014 7:18:39 PM)

The comparison I see is owning a convertible. You aren't going to drive around with the top down all the time. Because sometimes it's raining, or snowing, or so hot you want the air conditioning on instead. But when you want that classic convertible ride, it's always waiting in the garage for you.




DerangedUnit -> RE: sex slaves, well utilized or not? (10/2/2014 2:34:00 PM)

most of the experiences on here tend to be centered around the idea "its about whatever he wants"that is a relationship dynamic and difference from the question: are sex slave underutilized? it's not about whether or not they want to get the most out of property it's about whether they are. are you usually bored or are you kept busy? being a slave doesnt mean you just drop your panties(if you wear them) whenever someone feels like it. if im in the mood i might take off his and hop on or if im not i will fight until he gives up. this wasnt about what they want it's about whether or not the property is being utilized.




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