Michael Dunn convicted of murder, so much for him being let off

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BamaD -> Michael Dunn convicted of murder, so much for him being let off (10/2/2014 11:08:49 AM)
When this case came up, hung jury on the murder charge, several of the anti gun people were positive that he would never get convicted. At least some of the pro 2nd people thought that a conviction was almost assured. Right again. PS so much for me always supporting the white guy with a gun.

thishereboi -> RE: Michael Dunn convicted of murder, so much for him being let off (10/2/2014 11:45:13 AM)
Good news...thanks for sharing

BamaD -> RE: Michael Dunn convicted of murder, so much for him being let off (10/2/2014 11:48:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi Good news...thanks for sharing The only conclusion that indicates a contact with reality.

BamaD -> RE: Michael Dunn convicted of murder, so much for him being let off (10/2/2014 3:50:04 PM)
I am amazed, as many times as I have heard people whining that he got off (that evil syg you know) that none of them have shown up to express relieve that justice was done.

stef -> RE: Michael Dunn convicted of murder, so much for him being let off (10/2/2014 3:57:10 PM)
You amaze easily.

BamaD -> RE: Michael Dunn convicted of murder, so much for him being let off (10/2/2014 7:54:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stef You amaze easily. no I expected that you guys would be happy justice was done

stef -> RE: Michael Dunn convicted of murder, so much for him being let off (10/2/2014 8:11:19 PM)
While I am indeed pleased with the verdict, I'm curious just who exactly it is you're referring to when you say "you guys".

ThirdWheelWanted -> RE: Michael Dunn convicted of murder, so much for him being let off (10/2/2014 8:18:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stef While I am indeed pleased with the verdict, I'm curious just who exactly it is you're referring to when you say "you guys". I'd think "you guys" could refer to anyone here. I'm certainly happy with the verdict, I can't see why anyone else wouldn't be.

Lucylastic -> RE: Michael Dunn convicted of murder, so much for him being let off (10/2/2014 8:54:26 PM)
From the thread I posted. Made back on the original "story" of the first verdict.... quote: Im so glad this didnt go the way of zimmy.... wait to see the retrial results, but hes gonna go away for a long time FUCKIN A http://www.collarchat.com/m_4639122/mpage_1/tm.htm

ThirdWheelWanted -> RE: Michael Dunn convicted of murder, so much for him being let off (10/2/2014 9:35:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic From the thread I posted. Made back on the original "story" of the first verdict.... quote: Im so glad this didnt go the way of zimmy.... wait to see the retrial results, but hes gonna go away for a long time FUCKIN A http://www.collarchat.com/m_4639122/mpage_1/tm.htm I'm not really sure what you're getting at here. No one in that original thread said he wasn't guilty, some just said that 1st degree murder seemed like a stretch. From my reading, it seemed more appropriate that he'd be found guilty of 2nd degree murder. Clearly the jury disagreed. It doesn't seem that it would matter much either way. At his age, three charges of 2nd degree attempted murder, and another for either 1st or 2nd degree murder, means he's going to die in prison.

BamaD -> RE: Michael Dunn convicted of murder, so much for him being let off (10/2/2014 10:12:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stef While I am indeed pleased with the verdict, I'm curious just who exactly it is you're referring to when you say "you guys". Anyone who was whining that he "got off" because of syg. Anyone who has since stated that we "gun nuts" are glad that you can get away with shooting people for playing their music to loud. As third wheel points out nobody said he was innocent. If the above description doesn't apply to you then then the term doesn't.

stef -> RE: Michael Dunn convicted of murder, so much for him being let off (10/3/2014 12:40:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD Anyone who was whining that he "got off" because of syg. Anyone who has since stated that we "gun nuts" are glad that you can get away with shooting people for playing their music to loud. As third wheel points out nobody said he was innocent. If the above description doesn't apply to you then then the term doesn't. Ah, so you were just talking out your ass. Got it.

Lucylastic -> RE: Michael Dunn convicted of murder, so much for him being let off (10/3/2014 2:55:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ThirdWheelWanted quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic From the thread I posted. Made back on the original "story" of the first verdict.... quote: Im so glad this didnt go the way of zimmy.... wait to see the retrial results, but hes gonna go away for a long time FUCKIN A http://www.collarchat.com/m_4639122/mpage_1/tm.htm I'm not really sure what you're getting at here. No one in that original thread said he wasn't guilty, some just said that 1st degree murder seemed like a stretch. From my reading, it seemed more appropriate that he'd be found guilty of 2nd degree murder. Clearly the jury disagreed. It doesn't seem that it would matter much either way. At his age, three charges of 2nd degree attempted murder, and another for either 1st or 2nd degree murder, means he's going to die in prison. This part of the claim that the OP was what I was getting at. quote: When this case came up, hung jury on the murder charge, several of the anti gun people were positive that he would never get convicted. It was a FR not aimed at you.

joether -> RE: Michael Dunn convicted of murder, so much for him being let off (10/3/2014 3:32:09 AM)
I had thought to create a thread on this info of Mr. Dunn. Got side tracked on life. It happens... I guess many people were of the belief this guy would get away with murder using 'Stand Your Ground' (SYG) as a defense (since its such a flimsy law to begin with in reality). Frankly, the guy was an asshole with a gun. Would he have been as belligerent towards the teens had he not have had a gun? Probably not. That the gun, like a bit to much of 'liquid courage' (i.e. alcohol), sometimes makes people behave in ways they would not have given the same situation. This guy lost control of his temper and allowed 'blind rage' to do the 'talking'. Hopefully this serves as a reminder that having a gun involves a higher degree of responsibility with it. And that SYG laws have their limits.

BamaD -> RE: Michael Dunn convicted of murder, so much for him being let off (10/3/2014 10:39:17 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: joether I had thought to create a thread on this info of Mr. Dunn. Got side tracked on life. It happens... I guess many people were of the belief this guy would get away with murder using 'Stand Your Ground' (SYG) as a defense (since its such a flimsy law to begin with in reality). Frankly, the guy was an asshole with a gun. Would he have been as belligerent towards the teens had he not have had a gun? Probably not. That the gun, like a bit to much of 'liquid courage' (i.e. alcohol), sometimes makes people behave in ways they would not have given the same situation. This guy lost control of his temper and allowed 'blind rage' to do the 'talking'. Hopefully this serves as a reminder that having a gun involves a higher degree of responsibility with it. And that SYG laws have their limits. First off SYG never applied. It wasn't even relevant except in the minds of people who believe that people like Dunn are the result of it. They aren't, they existed before SYG and will continue to exist even if the anti self defense people get their way and get they get them repealed. Nobody defended Dunn. He should have been convicted the first time. He didn't get off, he was convicted on retrial in spite of assurance by anti self defense people that nobody gets convicted after a hung jury.

Musicmystery -> RE: Michael Dunn convicted of murder, so much for him being let off (10/3/2014 12:58:44 PM)
Have you ever posted anything not revolving around your obsession with guns? Just wondering.

stef -> RE: Michael Dunn convicted of murder, so much for him being let off (10/3/2014 7:26:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery Have you ever posted anything not revolving around your obsession with guns? Just wondering. I think the answer is no. http://www.collarchat.com/m_4738063/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#4738063

BamaD -> RE: Michael Dunn convicted of murder, so much for him being let off (10/3/2014 7:36:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stef quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery Have you ever posted anything not revolving around your obsession with guns? Just wondering. I think the answer is no. http://www.collarchat.com/m_4738063/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#4738063 A I am not obsessed with guns B I have covered other subjects C Music knows I have him on hide so attacking me when he knows that unless someone like you responds to his post is lacking in spinal attributes.

BamaD -> RE: Michael Dunn convicted of murder, so much for him being let off (10/3/2014 8:00:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stef quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery Have you ever posted anything not revolving around your obsession with guns? Just wondering. I think the answer is no. http://www.collarchat.com/m_4738063/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#4738063 Does this mean you disapprove of the conviction, since I am, according to you, obsessively pro gun, I must be wrong. Or do you admit that since I said from the beginning that he was clearly guilty that I am not blindly in favor of the guy with the gun?

BamaD -> RE: Michael Dunn convicted of murder, so much for him being let off (10/3/2014 8:05:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stef quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery Have you ever posted anything not revolving around your obsession with guns? Just wondering. I think the answer is no. http://www.collarchat.com/m_4738063/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#4738063 Does posting this link mean that you agree with FD that the important thing isn't the damage done, the important thing is the tool used?

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