Collarspace Discussion Forums


Home  Login  Search 

Michael Dunn convicted of murder, so much for him being let off


View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
 
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Dungeon of Political and Religious Discussion >> Michael Dunn convicted of murder, so much for him being let off Page: [1] 2   next >   >>
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
Michael Dunn convicted of murder, so much for him being... - 10/2/2014 11:08:49 AM   
BamaD


Posts: 20687
Joined: 2/27/2005
Status: offline 		When this case came up, hung jury on the murder charge, several of the anti gun people were positive that he would never get convicted. At least some of the pro 2nd people thought that a conviction was almost assured. Right again.

PS so much for me always supporting the white guy with a gun.

< Message edited by BamaD -- 10/2/2014 11:36:17 AM >

_____________________________

Government ranges from a necessary evil to an intolerable one. Thomas Paine

People don't believe they can defend themselves because they have guns, they have guns because they believe they can defend themselves.
Profile   Post #: 1
RE: Michael Dunn convicted of murder, so much for him b... - 10/2/2014 11:45:13 AM   
thishereboi


Posts: 14463
Joined: 6/19/2008
Status: offline 		Good news...thanks for sharing

_____________________________

"Sweetie, you're wasting your gum" .. Albert


This here is the boi formerly known as orfunboi


(in reply to BamaD)
Profile   Post #: 2
RE: Michael Dunn convicted of murder, so much for him b... - 10/2/2014 11:48:20 AM   
BamaD


Posts: 20687
Joined: 2/27/2005
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: thishereboi

Good news...thanks for sharing

The only conclusion that indicates a contact with reality.

_____________________________

Government ranges from a necessary evil to an intolerable one. Thomas Paine

People don't believe they can defend themselves because they have guns, they have guns because they believe they can defend themselves.

(in reply to thishereboi)
Profile   Post #: 3
RE: Michael Dunn convicted of murder, so much for him b... - 10/2/2014 3:50:04 PM   
BamaD


Posts: 20687
Joined: 2/27/2005
Status: offline 		I am amazed, as many times as I have heard people whining that he got off (that evil syg you know) that none of them have shown up to express relieve that justice was done.

_____________________________

Government ranges from a necessary evil to an intolerable one. Thomas Paine

People don't believe they can defend themselves because they have guns, they have guns because they believe they can defend themselves.

(in reply to BamaD)
Profile   Post #: 4
RE: Michael Dunn convicted of murder, so much for him b... - 10/2/2014 3:57:10 PM   
stef


Posts: 10215
Joined: 1/26/2004
Status: offline 		You amaze easily.

_____________________________

Welcome to PoliticSpace! If you came here expecting meaningful BDSM discussions, boy are you in the wrong place.

"Hypocrisy has consequences"

(in reply to BamaD)
Profile   Post #: 5
RE: Michael Dunn convicted of murder, so much for him b... - 10/2/2014 7:54:21 PM   
BamaD


Posts: 20687
Joined: 2/27/2005
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: stef

You amaze easily.

no I expected that you guys would be happy justice was done

_____________________________

Government ranges from a necessary evil to an intolerable one. Thomas Paine

People don't believe they can defend themselves because they have guns, they have guns because they believe they can defend themselves.

(in reply to stef)
Profile   Post #: 6
RE: Michael Dunn convicted of murder, so much for him b... - 10/2/2014 8:11:19 PM   
stef


Posts: 10215
Joined: 1/26/2004
Status: offline 		While I am indeed pleased with the verdict, I'm curious just who exactly it is you're referring to when you say "you guys".

_____________________________

Welcome to PoliticSpace! If you came here expecting meaningful BDSM discussions, boy are you in the wrong place.

"Hypocrisy has consequences"

(in reply to BamaD)
Profile   Post #: 7
RE: Michael Dunn convicted of murder, so much for him b... - 10/2/2014 8:18:47 PM   
ThirdWheelWanted


Posts: 391
Joined: 4/23/2014
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: stef

While I am indeed pleased with the verdict, I'm curious just who exactly it is you're referring to when you say "you guys".


I'd think "you guys" could refer to anyone here. I'm certainly happy with the verdict, I can't see why anyone else wouldn't be.

(in reply to stef)
Profile   Post #: 8
RE: Michael Dunn convicted of murder, so much for him b... - 10/2/2014 8:54:26 PM   
Lucylastic


Posts: 40310
Status: offline 		From the thread I posted.
Made back on the original "story" of the first verdict....
quote:

Im so glad this didnt go the way of zimmy....
wait to see the retrial results, but hes gonna go away for a long time
FUCKIN A


http://www.collarchat.com/m_4639122/mpage_1/tm.htm

_____________________________

(•_•)
<) )╯SUCH
/ \

\(•_•)
( (> A NASTY
/ \

(•_•)
<) )> WOMAN
/ \

Duchess Of Dissent
Dont Hate Love

(in reply to ThirdWheelWanted)
Profile   Post #: 9
RE: Michael Dunn convicted of murder, so much for him b... - 10/2/2014 9:35:32 PM   
ThirdWheelWanted


Posts: 391
Joined: 4/23/2014
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

From the thread I posted.
Made back on the original "story" of the first verdict....
quote:

Im so glad this didnt go the way of zimmy....
wait to see the retrial results, but hes gonna go away for a long time
FUCKIN A


http://www.collarchat.com/m_4639122/mpage_1/tm.htm


I'm not really sure what you're getting at here. No one in that original thread said he wasn't guilty, some just said that 1st degree murder seemed like a stretch. From my reading, it seemed more appropriate that he'd be found guilty of 2nd degree murder. Clearly the jury disagreed. It doesn't seem that it would matter much either way. At his age, three charges of 2nd degree attempted murder, and another for either 1st or 2nd degree murder, means he's going to die in prison.

(in reply to Lucylastic)
Profile   Post #: 10
RE: Michael Dunn convicted of murder, so much for him b... - 10/2/2014 10:12:29 PM   
BamaD


Posts: 20687
Joined: 2/27/2005
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: stef

While I am indeed pleased with the verdict, I'm curious just who exactly it is you're referring to when you say "you guys".

Anyone who was whining that he "got off" because of syg. Anyone who has since stated that we "gun nuts" are glad that you can get away with shooting people for playing their music to loud. As third wheel points out nobody said he was innocent. If the above description doesn't apply to you then then the term doesn't.

_____________________________

Government ranges from a necessary evil to an intolerable one. Thomas Paine

People don't believe they can defend themselves because they have guns, they have guns because they believe they can defend themselves.

(in reply to stef)
Profile   Post #: 11
RE: Michael Dunn convicted of murder, so much for him b... - 10/3/2014 12:40:59 AM   
stef


Posts: 10215
Joined: 1/26/2004
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD

Anyone who was whining that he "got off" because of syg. Anyone who has since stated that we "gun nuts" are glad that you can get away with shooting people for playing their music to loud. As third wheel points out nobody said he was innocent. If the above description doesn't apply to you then then the term doesn't.

Ah, so you were just talking out your ass. Got it.

_____________________________

Welcome to PoliticSpace! If you came here expecting meaningful BDSM discussions, boy are you in the wrong place.

"Hypocrisy has consequences"

(in reply to BamaD)
Profile   Post #: 12
RE: Michael Dunn convicted of murder, so much for him b... - 10/3/2014 2:55:05 AM   
Lucylastic


Posts: 40310
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: ThirdWheelWanted


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

From the thread I posted.
Made back on the original "story" of the first verdict....
quote:

Im so glad this didnt go the way of zimmy....
wait to see the retrial results, but hes gonna go away for a long time
FUCKIN A


http://www.collarchat.com/m_4639122/mpage_1/tm.htm


I'm not really sure what you're getting at here. No one in that original thread said he wasn't guilty, some just said that 1st degree murder seemed like a stretch. From my reading, it seemed more appropriate that he'd be found guilty of 2nd degree murder. Clearly the jury disagreed. It doesn't seem that it would matter much either way. At his age, three charges of 2nd degree attempted murder, and another for either 1st or 2nd degree murder, means he's going to die in prison.


This part of the claim that the OP was what I was getting at.
quote:

When this case came up, hung jury on the murder charge, several of the anti gun people were positive that he would never get convicted.


It was a FR not aimed at you.

_____________________________

(•_•)
<) )╯SUCH
/ \

\(•_•)
( (> A NASTY
/ \

(•_•)
<) )> WOMAN
/ \

Duchess Of Dissent
Dont Hate Love

(in reply to ThirdWheelWanted)
Profile   Post #: 13
RE: Michael Dunn convicted of murder, so much for him b... - 10/3/2014 3:32:09 AM   
joether


Posts: 5195
Joined: 7/24/2005
Status: offline 		I had thought to create a thread on this info of Mr. Dunn. Got side tracked on life. It happens...

I guess many people were of the belief this guy would get away with murder using 'Stand Your Ground' (SYG) as a defense (since its such a flimsy law to begin with in reality). Frankly, the guy was an asshole with a gun. Would he have been as belligerent towards the teens had he not have had a gun? Probably not. That the gun, like a bit to much of 'liquid courage' (i.e. alcohol), sometimes makes people behave in ways they would not have given the same situation. This guy lost control of his temper and allowed 'blind rage' to do the 'talking'. Hopefully this serves as a reminder that having a gun involves a higher degree of responsibility with it. And that SYG laws have their limits.


(in reply to Lucylastic)
Profile   Post #: 14
RE: Michael Dunn convicted of murder, so much for him b... - 10/3/2014 10:39:17 AM   
BamaD


Posts: 20687
Joined: 2/27/2005
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: joether

I had thought to create a thread on this info of Mr. Dunn. Got side tracked on life. It happens...

I guess many people were of the belief this guy would get away with murder using 'Stand Your Ground' (SYG) as a defense (since its such a flimsy law to begin with in reality). Frankly, the guy was an asshole with a gun. Would he have been as belligerent towards the teens had he not have had a gun? Probably not. That the gun, like a bit to much of 'liquid courage' (i.e. alcohol), sometimes makes people behave in ways they would not have given the same situation. This guy lost control of his temper and allowed 'blind rage' to do the 'talking'. Hopefully this serves as a reminder that having a gun involves a higher degree of responsibility with it. And that SYG laws have their limits.



First off SYG never applied. It wasn't even relevant except in the minds of people who believe that people like Dunn are the result of it. They aren't, they existed before SYG and will continue to exist even if the anti self defense people get their way and get they get them repealed. Nobody defended Dunn. He should have been convicted the first time. He didn't get off, he was convicted on retrial in spite of assurance by anti self defense people that nobody gets convicted after a hung jury.

_____________________________

Government ranges from a necessary evil to an intolerable one. Thomas Paine

People don't believe they can defend themselves because they have guns, they have guns because they believe they can defend themselves.

(in reply to joether)
Profile   Post #: 15
RE: Michael Dunn convicted of murder, so much for him b... - 10/3/2014 12:58:44 PM   
Musicmystery


Posts: 30259
Joined: 3/14/2005
Status: offline 		Have you ever posted anything not revolving around your obsession with guns?

Just wondering.

(in reply to BamaD)
Profile   Post #: 16
RE: Michael Dunn convicted of murder, so much for him b... - 10/3/2014 7:26:05 PM   
stef


Posts: 10215
Joined: 1/26/2004
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Have you ever posted anything not revolving around your obsession with guns?

Just wondering.

I think the answer is no.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_4738063/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#4738063

_____________________________

Welcome to PoliticSpace! If you came here expecting meaningful BDSM discussions, boy are you in the wrong place.

"Hypocrisy has consequences"

(in reply to Musicmystery)
Profile   Post #: 17
RE: Michael Dunn convicted of murder, so much for him b... - 10/3/2014 7:36:01 PM   
BamaD


Posts: 20687
Joined: 2/27/2005
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: stef


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Have you ever posted anything not revolving around your obsession with guns?

Just wondering.

I think the answer is no.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_4738063/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#4738063

A I am not obsessed with guns
B I have covered other subjects
C Music knows I have him on hide so attacking me when he knows that unless someone like you responds to his post is lacking in spinal attributes.

_____________________________

Government ranges from a necessary evil to an intolerable one. Thomas Paine

People don't believe they can defend themselves because they have guns, they have guns because they believe they can defend themselves.

(in reply to stef)
Profile   Post #: 18
RE: Michael Dunn convicted of murder, so much for him b... - 10/3/2014 8:00:16 PM   
BamaD


Posts: 20687
Joined: 2/27/2005
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: stef


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Have you ever posted anything not revolving around your obsession with guns?

Just wondering.

I think the answer is no.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_4738063/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#4738063

Does this mean you disapprove of the conviction, since I am, according to you, obsessively pro gun, I must be wrong. Or do you admit that since I said from the beginning that he was clearly guilty that I am not blindly in favor of the guy with the gun?

_____________________________

Government ranges from a necessary evil to an intolerable one. Thomas Paine

People don't believe they can defend themselves because they have guns, they have guns because they believe they can defend themselves.

(in reply to stef)
Profile   Post #: 19
RE: Michael Dunn convicted of murder, so much for him b... - 10/3/2014 8:05:00 PM   
BamaD


Posts: 20687
Joined: 2/27/2005
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: stef


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Have you ever posted anything not revolving around your obsession with guns?

Just wondering.

I think the answer is no.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_4738063/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#4738063

Does posting this link mean that you agree with FD that the important thing isn't the damage done, the important thing is the tool used?

_____________________________

Government ranges from a necessary evil to an intolerable one. Thomas Paine

People don't believe they can defend themselves because they have guns, they have guns because they believe they can defend themselves.

(in reply to stef)
Profile   Post #: 20
Page:   [1] 2   next >   >>
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Dungeon of Political and Religious Discussion >> Michael Dunn convicted of murder, so much for him being let off Page: [1] 2   next >   >>
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts




Collarchat.com © 2025
Terms of Service Privacy Policy Spam Policy

0.094