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the diagnostic results for our laptop are in - 10/2/2014 5:08:55 PM   
LittleGirlHeart


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Status: offline 		There was a bunch of critical errors and stuff, and basiclly the repair people said the only hope for it, was to put in a new hard drive, he suggested a 1 tarabite and he quoted a couple of things i can't remember, but bottom line was it was going to be 300. We're seeking a second opinion , they said they could be less than 250,dending on what they find wrong, but after a certain price, we'd be better off just getting a totally new laptop.

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RE: the diagnostic results for our laptop are in - 10/3/2014 5:11:47 PM   
quizzicalkitten


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Status: offline 		a 1tb hard drive off of amazon is around 80 bucks. Id ask them if you bring a hard drive what they will charge for the OS install and file recovery.

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RE: the diagnostic results for our laptop are in - 10/4/2014 6:24:51 AM   
MercTech


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Status: offline 		Do it yourself and figure about 16 man hours of re-installing or pay the service department to have a junior tech keep coming back for all the istalls.

Changing a hard drive is easy... transferring all your data to the new hard drive.. frustrating at best.

If the old drive is actually still able to be accessed; you can wheedle it into giving up your personal stuff it is holding hostage.

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RE: the diagnostic results for our laptop are in - 10/4/2014 7:57:39 AM   
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Do it yourself and figure about 16 man hours of re-installing or pay the service department to have a junior tech keep coming back for all the istalls.

Changing a hard drive is easy... transferring all your data to the new hard drive.. frustrating at best.

If the old drive is actually still able to be accessed; you can wheedle it into giving up your personal stuff it is holding hostage.



The hardest part about most new hard drive installs is if your previous drive was an OEM one, because they give you an OEM serial number which you have to go and annoy microsoft about, For LGH it would be easier to just have someone else do it because of the steps involved.

and Ive never had issues with the data transfer if the old hard drive is accessible just pop it in an enclosure attach and copy, for my personal machine i have an ISO back up made every week and stored on an external drive so its literally run this file and Poof everything you need.

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RE: the diagnostic results for our laptop are in - 10/4/2014 8:41:49 AM   
freedomdwarf1


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Status: offline 		Your laptop should have come with a recovery disk.
Buy a new hard drive, swap it with the old knackered one and re-install from the recovery disc.
If you don't have a recovery disc, just re-install the OS from scratch - it isn't difficult.
In most cases it is just a case of boot from it, put in your name and leave it to do the rest.

Ignore QK's comment about an OEM drive because that is BS.
You are given an OEM number because of the OS release you have - nothing to do with the hard drive.
To explain the difference: If your laptop was installed with a Retail (boxed) version of the OS, you'll have a Retail serial number. If the laptop came pre-installed from the manufacturer, they will have an OEM volume license number so they can install the same copy onto every machine they sell.
Even so, you can re-install the OS with whatever number you have with the laptop as long as it is a legitimate number for the release you are installing.

It's easy-peasy - just time consuming; especially re-doing all the online updates.


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RE: the diagnostic results for our laptop are in - 10/4/2014 11:23:20 AM   
LittleGirlHeart


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Status: offline 		It was their bench fee, they wanted 300 to fix it. And the rest was parts
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ORIGINAL: quizzicalkitten

a 1tb hard drive off of amazon is around 80 bucks. Id ask them if you bring a hard drive what they will charge for the OS install and file recovery.



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RE: the diagnostic results for our laptop are in - 10/4/2014 12:11:26 PM   
freedomdwarf1


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It was their bench fee, they wanted 300 to fix it. And the rest was parts

You seem to have a habit of finding the most expensive rip-off merchants on the streets.

$80 or less for a hard drive.
$50 for diagnostics to tell you what was wrong.
Another $50 to check it and see if it is working correctly when they replace the hard drive.
The whole job takes about 10 mins at most.

ETA: Many places will diagnose things for free in the hopes they will get the repair job.
Many places will check that their repairs are satisfactory as well - for free; because they have pride in their workmanship and customer satisfaction.
You could probably get the whole job done for under $100 - complete with new hard drive and have it returned within a day.


You don't necessarily need a 1TB hard drive.
Buy a smaller one. For most people, 500GB is more than enough and it is cheaper.

Instead of running to the nearest rip-off cowboy, shop around.


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RE: the diagnostic results for our laptop are in - 10/4/2014 3:50:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LittleGirlHeart

There was a bunch of critical errors and stuff, and basiclly the repair people said the only hope for it, was to put in a new hard drive, he suggested a 1 tarabite and he quoted a couple of things i can't remember, but bottom line was it was going to be 300. We're seeking a second opinion , they said they could be less than 250,dending on what they find wrong, but after a certain price, we'd be better off just getting a totally new laptop.


Hon...time for a new rig.

Repairing this device is pissing up a rope.

(Yer gonna get wet).

A new laptop, with a terabyte HD, 6 gigs ram, etc., all the good shit (but not a gaming machine) can be had for between 300 and 700 bucks, depending on varying factors but...for 500 - 900 bucks you can have a rig that will last another 6 - 10 years.

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RE: the diagnostic results for our laptop are in - 10/4/2014 3:51:16 PM   
LookieNoNookie


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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

quote:

ORIGINAL: LittleGirlHeart

It was their bench fee, they wanted 300 to fix it. And the rest was parts

You seem to have a habit of finding the most expensive rip-off merchants on the streets.

$80 or less for a hard drive.
$50 for diagnostics to tell you what was wrong.
Another $50 to check it and see if it is working correctly when they replace the hard drive.
The whole job takes about 10 mins at most.

ETA: Many places will diagnose things for free in the hopes they will get the repair job.
Many places will check that their repairs are satisfactory as well - for free; because they have pride in their workmanship and customer satisfaction.
You could probably get the whole job done for under $100 - complete with new hard drive and have it returned within a day.


You don't necessarily need a 1TB hard drive.
Buy a smaller one. For most people, 500GB is more than enough and it is cheaper.

Instead of running to the nearest rip-off cowboy, shop around.



(Ayep).

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RE: the diagnostic results for our laptop are in - 10/4/2014 6:17:11 PM   
LittleGirlHeart


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Status: offline 		Yeah, i found 3 places that do free diagnostic. And, i told the people in mid town that we are second opinioning with, that i don't need a 1 terabite.
quote:

ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

quote:

ORIGINAL: LittleGirlHeart

It was their bench fee, they wanted 300 to fix it. And the rest was parts

You seem to have a habit of finding the most expensive rip-off merchants on the streets.

$80 or less for a hard drive.
$50 for diagnostics to tell you what was wrong.
Another $50 to check it and see if it is working correctly when they replace the hard drive.
The whole job takes about 10 mins at most.

ETA: Many places will diagnose things for free in the hopes they will get the repair job.
Many places will check that their repairs are satisfactory as well - for free; because they have pride in their workmanship and customer satisfaction.
You could probably get the whole job done for under $100 - complete with new hard drive and have it returned within a day.


You don't necessarily need a 1TB hard drive.
Buy a smaller one. For most people, 500GB is more than enough and it is cheaper.

Instead of running to the nearest rip-off cowboy, shop around.




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For someone must stand up for what's right
'Cause where there's a man who has no voice
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RE: the diagnostic results for our laptop are in - 10/4/2014 6:19:25 PM   
LittleGirlHeart


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Status: offline 		Maybe after Christmas, when all the sales are going on. Find one we like and bide our time and do it right.
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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie


quote:

ORIGINAL: LittleGirlHeart

There was a bunch of critical errors and stuff, and basiclly the repair people said the only hope for it, was to put in a new hard drive, he suggested a 1 tarabite and he quoted a couple of things i can't remember, but bottom line was it was going to be 300. We're seeking a second opinion , they said they could be less than 250,dending on what they find wrong, but after a certain price, we'd be better off just getting a totally new laptop.


Hon...time for a new rig.

Repairing this device is pissing up a rope.

(Yer gonna get wet).

A new laptop, with a terabyte HD, 6 gigs ram, etc., all the good shit (but not a gaming machine) can be had for between 300 and 700 bucks, depending on varying factors but...for 500 - 900 bucks you can have a rig that will last another 6 - 10 years.



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RE: the diagnostic results for our laptop are in - 10/4/2014 7:36:37 PM   
freedomdwarf1


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ORIGINAL: LittleGirlHeart

Maybe after Christmas, when all the sales are going on. Find one we like and bide our time and do it right.


Save yourself hundreds of $$'s and just replace the hard drive.
Do the stuff yourself. It's not hard, a schoolkid could do it blindfolded.
If you really can't do it, ask a friend that has 2 brain cells to do it for you.


You have another thread on the same topic.

You also started a similar one a while back and were given loads of good advice.
You also seem hell-bent on finding any excuse to buy a new one and from memory (from past threads), money is tight.
If you don't have money to throw away - don't waste it on frivolous things that aren't strictly needed!


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RE: the diagnostic results for our laptop are in - 10/4/2014 8:20:05 PM   
LittleGirlHeart


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Status: offline 		I really don't understand anything about computers, most of it's all way over my head. My dad might know how though and Jales is pretty smart about stuff like that.


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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1


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ORIGINAL: LittleGirlHeart

Maybe after Christmas, when all the sales are going on. Find one we like and bide our time and do it right.


Save yourself hundreds of $$'s and just replace the hard drive.
Do the stuff yourself. It's not hard, a schoolkid could do it blindfolded.
If you really can't do it, ask a friend that has 2 brain cells to do it for you.






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RE: the diagnostic results for our laptop are in - 10/5/2014 6:39:44 AM   
quizzicalkitten


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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

Your laptop should have come with a recovery disk.
Buy a new hard drive, swap it with the old knackered one and re-install from the recovery disc.
If you don't have a recovery disc, just re-install the OS from scratch - it isn't difficult.
In most cases it is just a case of boot from it, put in your name and leave it to do the rest.

Ignore QK's comment about an OEM drive because that is BS.
You are given an OEM number because of the OS release you have - nothing to do with the hard drive.
To explain the difference: If your laptop was installed with a Retail (boxed) version of the OS, you'll have a Retail serial number. If the laptop came pre-installed from the manufacturer, they will have an OEM volume license number so they can install the same copy onto every machine they sell.
Even so, you can re-install the OS with whatever number you have with the laptop as long as it is a legitimate number for the release you are installing.

It's easy-peasy - just time consuming; especially re-doing all the online updates.




Yeah, please do tell me how you enter a serial number thats half the letters of the normal key to make it work, because Id love to know how you do it...
For example My key for my current laptop looks like this yyh4d-OEM-r44t2 Where a real product key is something like 8ttg3-rffer-rde4v-2ws9d-vi44s

Ive always had to call Microsoft to get the full product key. Because theres no fucking way to install it with the OEM key. They do this so you cant reinstall the OS over and over and over and over.

If your starting out with a blank hard drive, and your putting in an os disk you get from MS, you need a full key not an OEM key.


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RE: the diagnostic results for our laptop are in - 10/5/2014 7:32:46 AM   
freedomdwarf1


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ORIGINAL: quizzicalkitten


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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

Your laptop should have come with a recovery disk.
Buy a new hard drive, swap it with the old knackered one and re-install from the recovery disc.
If you don't have a recovery disc, just re-install the OS from scratch - it isn't difficult.
In most cases it is just a case of boot from it, put in your name and leave it to do the rest.

Ignore QK's comment about an OEM drive because that is BS.
You are given an OEM number because of the OS release you have - nothing to do with the hard drive.
To explain the difference: If your laptop was installed with a Retail (boxed) version of the OS, you'll have a Retail serial number. If the laptop came pre-installed from the manufacturer, they will have an OEM volume license number so they can install the same copy onto every machine they sell.
Even so, you can re-install the OS with whatever number you have with the laptop as long as it is a legitimate number for the release you are installing.

It's easy-peasy - just time consuming; especially re-doing all the online updates.




Yeah, please do tell me how you enter a serial number thats half the letters of the normal key to make it work, because Id love to know how you do it...
For example My key for my current laptop looks like this yyh4d-OEM-r44t2 Where a real product key is something like 8ttg3-rffer-rde4v-2ws9d-vi44s

Ive always had to call Microsoft to get the full product key. Because theres no fucking way to install it with the OEM key. They do this so you cant reinstall the OS over and over and over and over.

If your starting out with a blank hard drive, and your putting in an os disk you get from MS, you need a full key not an OEM key.



I have 14 PC's and 7 laptops here on my home network - ALL installed with an OEM key and they all work Ok!!
I can't help it if you've not been given a proper key with your particular laptop.
So yes, using an OEM key works just fine.

If you had an OEM key, Microsoft won't help you - you'll get told to contact your laptop distributor/manufacturer.
Even so.... You managed to get a proper key from them and you didn't write it down??? Tsk! Tsk!
An OEM key is just the same structure/layout as a Retail key - it is no different in that respect. It has the same 5x5-character ID. The only way that Ms know whether it's Retail or OEM is by the numbers, nothing else.

To tell LGH that you get an OEM key because of the hard drive was just stupid and scaremongering!!
How many times do you replace or upgrade hard drives and re-install an OS??
Probably only done it once or maybe twice.
I do it about 4-5 times every week!
So far this week, I've done 3 towers, 2 laptops and a notebook and currently just finishing a small RM desktop.
And because they are all off-the-shelf machines, they all have an OEM key whether it's XP, Vista, Windows7 or Windows 8/8.1 I'm installing. The notebook person wanted Windows 8.1 until she saw it and reverted back to Win7 Ultimate.
I also have the facilities/utilities to transfer old/personal data to the new drive unless it is totally knackered.
To a certain degree, I can resurrect a corrupted drive to get that data if the drive failed with 99% success rate.

If you are going to give people technical advice - make sure it is accurate!!


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RE: the diagnostic results for our laptop are in - 10/5/2014 7:39:42 AM   
freedomdwarf1


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ORIGINAL: LittleGirlHeart

I really don't understand anything about computers, most of it's all way over my head. My dad might know how though and Jales is pretty smart about stuff like that.


You just boot the machine with the install/recovery disk.
When the time comes, you get a box to type in the name you want for your account.
Being in the US (the default), you can leave it to do the rest on it's own with the default settings.

...That's how hard it is.

You only need techie knowledge if it all goes pear-shaped during the install (which is very rare).
I'm sure you can manage that simple operation.


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RE: the diagnostic results for our laptop are in - 10/5/2014 7:53:44 AM   
quizzicalkitten


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Perhaps you should look into the difference between eu laws amd american law... before you call bullshit and make yourself look like an idiot.

And ive done over 40 reinstalls between this month and last all with an incorrect oem key. Its what i do for christmas money...hell i did 4 yesterday.... Its to the point i have several ms techs direct line to get the full key.

Its not a requirement in the us to provide a full key and most manufacturers give you a short key so when your frustrated.... you just call them to take care of it where they then get the labor money.




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RE: the diagnostic results for our laptop are in - 10/5/2014 8:42:41 AM   
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If you are going to give people technical advice - make sure it is accurate!!

You win the irony trophy of the day for that, super sniper!

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