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Are the side effects of chastity part of the appeal? - 10/27/2014 4:10:00 PM   
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As someone who's interested in orgasm control I spent some time researching chastity. Of course the supposed benefits that numerous websites list (such as increased desire to please the keyholder, etc) make it seem appealing but after doing more digging through personal stories I learned that although it can make some men more obedient and willing to please, it doesn't happen in every case. Then there are the side effects, such as erectile dysfunction and inability to orgasm. Are these part of the appeal for most men who fetishize chastity? Is it that you hate your manhood so much that you want to ruin it entirely? Or do you see it as some sort of sacrifice, that you aren't worthy of sex with women so you might as well never be able to get it up again to make sure there's no chance of having to perform sexually with a woman? Of course the flip side is that I'm guessing many don't understand the consequences and are doing the stereotypical male sub thing where the guy needs more and more hardcore porn to get off, so is now fetishizing things that he's not only not experienced in real life but would hate if he ever did manage to experience it. So guys, which is it for you?
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RE: Are the side effects of chastity part of the appeal? - 10/27/2014 4:40:36 PM   
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My impression of a lot of the sub guys into this particular kink, at least on this site, is that they don't think it through and maybe aren't aware of the negative side effects. Probably because of sub frenzy. It's a fun, new, exciting fetish to try, and on some level the women they ask can't refuse it.

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RE: Are the side effects of chastity part of the appeal? - 10/27/2014 5:05:49 PM   
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Wow, this is all new to me. I have a chastity device (cage) which is worn occasionally. Never heard of it causing erectile dysfunction though... I may be Transgender (mixed actually), but I have no plans to modify my body in that regard. And it would be nice to keep all the parts I do have working and like new, ya know? ;) So what is the scoop on the side effects on these chastity devices?

Also, never heard of the hardcore porn escalating thing. I watched it when I was younger and once in a good while now, but for me I've become less interested in it as I've matured...

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RE: Are the side effects of chastity part of the appeal? - 10/27/2014 5:37:17 PM   
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As a woman who does orgasm denial (and not chastity) I can say that there are no such side effects for me.

I do see what you are saying about some male chastity fantasies. I run a permanent orgasm denial group on another site and even today I am caught up in the drama of an 18 year old virgin male submissive wanting to permanently lose the ability to achieve erection, thus denying himself the opportunity of ever enjoying sex *sighs*.

I have to say, I think a lot of it is BS; the fantasy is in full swing but the reality never seems to happen. They masturbate and the desire disappears.

I personally think the honour system is the only real long term way to do orgasm denial. The 'side effects' of any other system make it so impractical that you would have to be half insane to do it.

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RE: Are the side effects of chastity part of the appeal? - 10/27/2014 7:19:50 PM   
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Wow.... Ok let me see.... First off, injury to the penis occurs with an improperly worn or pinching device. Also, if the subb is wearing spikes, well, yes, this certainly can lead to ED, as that's what spikes are designed to do. Medicine has yet to find anything definitively harmful (physiologically) about wearing a chastity device indefinitely. Instead of orgasming, the penis will dribble fluid a lot, which is sufficient.

As to the appeal, it differs from male to male. For me, having a tangible barrier is incredibly arousing. There is also a kind of "high" you get from being overly frustrated. With all due respect, I simply don't believe Strict chastity without a barrier is possible, and yes, I have read the profiles of Domme who claim it to work.

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RE: Are the side effects of chastity part of the appeal? - 10/27/2014 8:06:47 PM   
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Likewise, OP, I did extensive reading before taking the plunge on a device. I don't, nor do I allow others, to mess with my penis lightly, you see. And whilst C devices are not something that I've been particularly focused on - being more of an interesting expression of control, and being controlled, among a plethora of other avenues of said expression - I did want to try to get the facts as straight as possible, and certainly not ruin my penis in the process.

Induced erectile dysfunction was the issue that rose to the top. Namely, the breaking of the linkage between erection and orgasm, by reaching said state, whilst in a device [or other situation where an erection is denied]. If you're worried about negative effects, that scenario should be avoided at all costs. That aside, some resources suggested some interesting CD uses, specifically that a device could be a non-pharmacological means for treating impotency...I paraphrase, but something about better control of urges, and focusing sexual desire. I can't speak to impotency and CDs, but this was a theme in the reading from some quasi-respectable articles dealing with 'older folks' issues on the subject, and the positive impact chastity devices had...that and to always be on the look out for panthers. They're out there, I tell ya!

Full disclaimer - I have occasional, rather than 24/7, CD experience. If you seek the latter, check in with one of my CS peers with said experience for the full low down.

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RE: Are the side effects of chastity part of the appeal? - 10/27/2014 10:40:45 PM   
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not everybody is into chastity
when a person is trying it, only then he know how much he's into.
there was a video of a dom welding his sub in permanent chastity , using epoxy to weld his cage. later on, he post that the sub re-decided and didnt want to be locked forever. it was his fantasy to be locked forever but when actually trying to do it, he re-decided

for some it is fantasy to be locked, only locked they know how serous will they take it. i did talk to some subs about permanent or long term chastity (more than a year). most fantasied about it , and said they will like it, but i bet nobody who i talked will actually do it.

somebody on fetlife , fantasied of "welding a chastity cage closed". we are talking about 6300-10000 degrees f on the cage thats on you


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RE: Are the side effects of chastity part of the appeal? - 10/27/2014 11:18:46 PM   
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I imagine such long term chastity stretches are rare

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RE: Are the side effects of chastity part of the appeal? - 10/27/2014 11:20:06 PM   
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I'll have to look it up, but there is a sect in India that traditionally lock themselves in permanent chastity. So it is done and has been done for a long time.

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RE: Are the side effects of chastity part of the appeal? - 10/27/2014 11:23:54 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: IIapetus

Likewise, OP, I did extensive reading before taking the plunge on a device. I don't, nor do I allow others, to mess with my penis lightly, you see. And whilst C devices are not something that I've been particularly focused on - being more of an interesting expression of control, and being controlled, among a plethora of other avenues of said expression - I did want to try to get the facts as straight as possible, and certainly not ruin my penis in the process.

Induced erectile dysfunction was the issue that rose to the top. Namely, the breaking of the linkage between erection and orgasm, by reaching said state, whilst in a device [or other situation where an erection is denied]. If you're worried about negative effects, that scenario should be avoided at all costs. That aside, some resources suggested some interesting CD uses, specifically that a device could be a non-pharmacological means for treating impotency...I paraphrase, but something about better control of urges, and focusing sexual desire. I can't speak to impotency and CDs, but this was a theme in the reading from some quasi-respectable articles dealing with 'older folks' issues on the subject, and the positive impact chastity devices had...that and to always be on the look out for panthers. They're out there, I tell ya!

Full disclaimer - I have occasional, rather than 24/7, CD experience. If you seek the latter, check in with one of my CS peers with said experience for the full low down.


OK, Iiapetus probably means chastity devices using the acronym "CD" rather its traditional interpretation. I find what he posted to be rather interesting, especially the bolded part.
I have done the 24/7 self induced chastity thing and I like it...something about journey vs destination. My experience has been increased sexual desire as a result, apparently devices increase further but never used one on myself.

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RE: Are the side effects of chastity part of the appeal? - 10/28/2014 12:00:22 AM   
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ORIGINAL: orgasmdenial12
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I personally think the honour system is the only real long term way to do orgasm denial. The 'side effects' of any other system make it so impractical that you would have to be half insane to do it.

The way I see it, if I can't trust my sub's word of honor, and he has so little self-control, then what good is he to me?

I have also heard it said that using chastity devices induces a greater level of submission.
Not relying upon a device, in my mind, is a better indicator to me of submission and devotion.
Abstinence when not in my presence (which is how I practice orgasm control) should be a willful decision, not something which is enforced by external means, IMO.

What I hear many younger male subs tell me is that they don't have the self-control to stop masturbating excessively. These are the ones who latch onto the fantasy aspect of being controlled.
The middle-aged divorced dudes, upon further conversation, usually reveal signs of porn addiction. Their fixation with chastity would appear to stem from a (feeble) attempt to curb their *sinful* and sexually obsessive thoughts. The irony is, that instead of thinking less about sex, chastity practices cause them to fixate upon sex all the more and to be further ruled by their genitals than they already were. Plus I've heard so many cheating stories about chastity Houdinis that it's absurd.

What both of these age groups have in common is a cock-centric mentality where they seek control in the form of Female Domination. As if we have nothing better to do than to concern ourselves with the state of a man's dick all livelong day.

I wonder, ItalianStallion, how many of those Domme profiles are of Keyholder Mistresses who charge fees. This is nothing short of a part-time job, and outside of a committed relationship, what woman would or could care less whether you remain chaste for her? If this extends beyond cyber, then there's milking involved. I heard of a few men who have become addicted to getting milked, in addition to getting addicted to being locked into chastity. Whether it's psychological or physiological, they begin to lose their erection responses. (Two guys I know don't concern themselves much because they were only allowed and only wanted to perform oral worship on their Mistresses as it was/is.)

Within a committed relationship there are two (predominantly male) sub fetishes which can develop into the dimension of a sexually charged dynamic, and both involve either a high degree of jealousy or possessiveness. This is chastity and cuckolding. As for the latter, some couples can handle these intense emotions, and others can't sustain whatever levels of mindfucks which take place within these lifestyle practices.
I read a Domme's blog once which described how keeping her husband in chastity was for the purpose of heightening sexual pleasure when they were together, NOT of diminishing it, after he had been subjected to Sexual Torment. (Like Humiliation dynamics, there are lighter elements of sado-masochism involved, which if not careful can turn into [non-consensual or risky forms of] mental cruelty.)

Bottom line, I'm not going to promote, instigate or collude with any activities which would risk damaging my partner's package and all of its working parts.
... And the best advice I can give to men seeking this type of gratification is not to trust any woman who doesn't have an emotionally (and not financially) vested interest in truly owning your cock for her use, or else what does she have to lose? Score: Keyholder=Nothing; You=Everything

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RE: Are the side effects of chastity part of the appeal? - 10/28/2014 12:02:25 AM   
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The only chastity I've ever experimented with has been 'hers.' Keeping clean, I have found no 'side-effects' just one effect...front and center...'aphrodisia' in the extreme.

Once removed, talk about her being on my trigger...she will cum on a dime. Done properly, it can be used to create some of the most intense orgasms of a lifetime.

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RE: Are the side effects of chastity part of the appeal? - 10/28/2014 12:14:59 AM   
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I'm glad you brought up "chastity houdidnis" as it is the perfect lead in to my next point - most devices are escape able anyway. The idea isn't to lock someone in an escape proof device. A good way to put it... The device acts as a kind of... Tamper proof seal you could say. I could get out easily, however it would be plain as day that I had done so. Also, the turn on with chastity is very much in the mind. For me, a physically present tamper proof device is best, and if something could be worked out that focused more on tamper proofing than armored security, I would go for it. We are not talking a week or two either, but chaste stretches going on months. You would need see security for that, certainly. "Trust" simply won't do it.

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RE: Are the side effects of chastity part of the appeal? - 10/28/2014 12:20:55 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ItalianStallion
I simply don't believe Strict chastity without a barrier is possible.


I was denied for ten months, 8 months, 6 months and 4 months without a barrier and it was 100% successful. If my Owner chooses to deny me for longer then I am 100% sure that will be successful too. I know of 2 other women who have gone over a year in orgasm denial, with no device and they have also been successful.

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RE: Are the side effects of chastity part of the appeal? - 10/28/2014 12:56:50 AM   
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OK I'll bite... How?

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RE: Are the side effects of chastity part of the appeal? - 10/28/2014 6:49:11 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ItalianStallion

OK I'll bite... How?


Simple, by choosing to be obedient. If he says don't touch, I don't touch. It is a matter of the will.

You want to be FORCED to be chaste instead of merely submitting to your domme's will. You can't seem to stop focusing on your cock. Send your focus elsewhere.

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RE: Are the side effects of chastity part of the appeal? - 10/28/2014 2:04:40 PM   
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I was hoping the dude would answer.

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RE: Are the side effects of chastity part of the appeal? - 10/28/2014 4:58:17 PM   
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It has an appeal the same way bondage has an appeal. It's one thing to be told not to move -- it's quite another to be unable to move.

It doesn't necessarily mean you feel you're unworthy, hate your manhood, or any of that jazz - although in some cases it may be true. It's an absolute physical barrier, an increased level of control and denial that both parties can find intoxicatingly arousing. Like any other fetish it's not for everyone.

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RE: Are the side effects of chastity part of the appeal? - 11/1/2014 3:32:44 AM   
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Hello and greetings

Wow not sure where to start or how to . As a person who's been wearing chastity's on and off for the pant 12 plus years . It was some-thing I wanted to try . Now mind you it take time to get used to wearing the first few days I wore it for a few hrs then would remove it to get used to wearing it . As for side effects I think only one time way back during my expericnes with the Cb3000. Did I encounter one time where after wearing for more then 7 days / 1 full week but you must wash and clean it daily I didn't remove mines get when cleaning . How ever after that frist week . The only side effect I had was I didn't get as hard as fast as I has in the past . More of a delay sensation for me then a longer delay when I cam that first time after wearing for one week With a minor pain I did cum !!

But we are all different . So far I've had no other iusses. With my chastity experiences . I started with a plastic Cb3000. I've tried over 6 different chastity devices. I now have three steel / metals chastity a long with there's poly carbontie chastity's and one silicone chastity

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RE: Are the side effects of chastity part of the appeal? - 11/2/2014 2:27:26 AM   
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Hmm...

It seems the women in this thread are of the opinion they know more than the men. :)

In this case I'd take the opinion of someone that actually owns and uses the equipment...

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