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frauds list - 10/31/2014 2:06:49 AM

kowtowed

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i cant see a post here where all the frauds, embezzlers, fakes and phonies can be listed -isn't it high time this site got cleaned up? so annoying to have to trawl through all the garbage -wanting payment, 'contracts' 'tributes' or trying to con you to join some stupid sites. No longer a bdsm site really - just a drop off spot for various kinds of embezzlers looking for suckers

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RE: frauds list - 10/31/2014 2:43:11 AM

luxey2511

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no because such a list would be silly. who decides who the "fakes & frauds" are? your fake or fraud is another person's dream.

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RE: frauds list - 10/31/2014 2:55:08 AM

MissKittyDeVine

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If you can spot them, then so can other people.

Besides, such a list would be against site rules.

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RE: frauds list - 10/31/2014 3:46:31 AM

DarkSteven

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OP, you have been on this site for EIGHT YEARS and you have a single sentence fragment as your profile?!??!

Look. Male subs vastly outnumber female Dommes. You will have to actually go to some effort to attract a lifestyle Domme. Right now, the reason you are so fussed about the frauds is that the real ones will have nothing to do with you. They have their pick of subs who have full profiles that they can read and gauge compatibility.

My suggestions:

1. Fill out your profile. You're 58 years old. (So am I, by the way.) That means you've had a life... fill out what your college major was if you attended. Your career. Whether you're retired or still working. Your hobbies. And, most important, the subjects you like to talk about (women love conversations).

2. Develop other-think. Think of what others perceive of you through your actions. Right now, it appears that you threw down some words on your profile eight years ago and never bothered to finish it. You either contacted Dommes with no reply or, more likely, waited for Dommes to contact you. Then you posted suggestions for how others could change things to better suit you. Never once did you ask if you were doing something wrong or how you might change.

So, how does this look to Dommes reading your posts? They see someone who is lazy and puts forth little effort. If something goes wrong, you start telling others what you want them to do. So a Domme will expect that you will not work at a relationship with her, but will let it drift and if there's an issue, will blame her instead of asking her what the two of you could do about it or if there's a change you might make.

That said, it is difficult to meet online. Why not go to the fetish crowd in Melbourne? Here are some links:

https://fetlife.com/groups/1213

https://fetlife.com/groups/5687

https://fetlife.com/groups/7463

https://fetlife.com/groups/11089

https://fetlife.com/groups/10114

A submissives' munch: https://fetlife.com/events/290487

Get out there into the real world and meet people.

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RE: frauds list - 10/31/2014 3:48:10 AM

luxey2511

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wow...nice post.

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RE: frauds list - 10/31/2014 6:17:28 AM

SuiGenerix

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The world would be a better place if there were a DarkSteven's Academy for the Advisement of CS Submissives.

That your truth bombs come with helpful links only makes you more fabulous.

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RE: frauds list - 10/31/2014 7:26:48 AM

FieryOpal

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quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

OP, you have been on this site for [bold]EIGHT YEARS[/bold] and you have a single sentence fragment as your profile?!??!

Look. Male subs vastly outnumber female Dommes. You will have to actually go to some effort to attract a lifestyle Domme. Right now, the reason you are so fussed about the frauds is that the real ones will have nothing to do with you. They have their pick of subs who have full profiles that they can read and gauge compatibility.

My suggestions:

1. Fill out your profile. You're 58 years old. (So am I, by the way.) That means you've had a life... fill out what your college major was if you attended. Your career. Whether you're retired or still working. Your hobbies. And, most important, the subjects you like to talk about (women love conversations).

2. Develop other-think. Think of what others perceive of you through your actions. Right now, it appears that you threw down some words on your profile eight years ago and never bothered to finish it. You either contacted Dommes with no reply or, more likely, waited for Dommes to contact you. Then you posted suggestions for how others could change things to better suit you. Never once did you ask if you were doing something wrong or how you might change.

So, how does this look to Dommes reading your posts? They see someone who is lazy and puts forth little effort. If something goes wrong, you start telling others what you want them to do. So a Domme will expect that you will not work at a relationship with her, but will let it drift and if there's an issue, will blame her instead of asking her what the two of you could do about it or if there's a change you might make.
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Get out there into the real world and meet people.

Then you wait 8 years to make your only two whiney-arse posts today.

If I were anywhere near Melbourne, Australia, I wouldn't be the least bit interested in you. Are you the type who makes multiple views but never actually leaves any kind of message, much less a personalized one, hoping that Dommes are going to check you out and contact you first?

Merely viewing profiles means next to nothing. And in your case, OP, it simply reinforces your romantic laziness. There is also nothing submissive about being romantically (and more than likely sexually) lazy, e.g. a DO-ME bottom.

Furthermore, it's the male DO-ME bottoms and self-absorbed fetishists who are crawling out of the woodwork. *Real* submissives, who actively seek to please a Dominant woman and pro-actively comply with her wishes, are relatively scarce. (Btw, bitches and self-proclaimed sluts who have to be "forced" to do our bidding join the ranks of abhorrent DO-MEs.

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RE: frauds list - 10/31/2014 7:55:24 AM

SeekingTrinity

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~FRing it~

It's called blacklisting...and it's against the rules, OP

For good reason too, I think. I'll make an example of it to hopefully illustrate my point. Let's say you and I meet. I'm nice, but just not your type. You are kind about it, but I still get all butthurt over it. So I come on here and blast you as a fake or a fraud. Even though you might not have done anything wrong, your still rep gets trashed.

It's very simple. If they ask you for money and you don't want to pay it, just move the fuck on. Not bitch about it

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RE: frauds list - 10/31/2014 11:22:28 AM

Moderator3

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It isn't necessary to post your disappointments and complaints in multiple areas of the forum. In fact, it would be far better to send off an email to Support if it is that much of a problem to you. I did post on your other thread and you might read that.

Just think about this for a moment. If we allowed blacklisting, someone could report someone for having two profiles or fake photos, because no one could have boobs or a penis that size or even two locations because they worked hard enough at a job that has them traveling and they often spend time at their beach house. So and so didn't want to meet for coffee and that little lady refused to wear a sign with my name on it. I saw blacklisting done because someone didn't respond to an email within an hour and someone had a partner already and shouldn't be here because this is where we seek a partner. It gets a little ridiculous.

Many members have managed to connect with others for many years without blacklisting. I think we can do without it.

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RE: frauds list - 10/31/2014 3:08:53 PM

ResidentSadist

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We don't need a thread like that because unlike you, we can spot a scam. You seem sorta naive for a 58 yo man. Are you new to both dating and the internet?

We have dated in real life and learned not everyone is who they said they are and the same is true online.

We have been to other online dating sites where the membership is 90% male and over half the female profiles are faked by boys just to get attention.

We know when 20 yo girls advertize they seek older men for "discrete" encounters, they are really hookers that want money.

We didn't give our banking info to the Nigerian banker so he could move millions to our bank for a 10% commission.

If you are pissed off enough to make more than one post about scams, it means unlike us, you are spending time chasing after these silly scams. For showing us that there are still some naive innocents in this world, we thank you. And now, because someone had to make the call to whine-one-one before you post any more tear filled threads . . .

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RE: frauds list - 10/31/2014 4:08:59 PM

ThatDaveGuy69

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OP: It all comes down to ad rates.
The more members on a site the more you can charge for ads.
If CS cleaned house it would easily halve the membership.
It's free site, we're getting exactly what we pay for.

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RE: frauds list - 10/31/2014 4:26:13 PM

Moderator3

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I guess you haven't seen how many threads we've had with people upset about their profile.

I wish to give credit to our Support staff. They have been diligently working a lot of hours to improve things. We have had numerous comments on how good things have been looking.

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RE: frauds list - 10/31/2014 4:57:52 PM

CreativeDominant

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Mmmmmmmmm...purple

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RE: frauds list - 10/31/2014 5:05:18 PM

FelineRanger

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Now tell the truth, OP. Who told you to quit typing with one hand and go learn something about the lifestyle?

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RE: frauds list - 11/1/2014 1:03:44 PM

GotSteel

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ThatDaveGuy69
OP: It all comes down to ad rates.
The more members on a site the more you can charge for ads.
If CS cleaned house it would easily halve the membership.
It's free site, we're getting exactly what we pay for.

Having watched this school of thought destroy myspace and make alt a joke I'm saddened that collarspace has decided to go the same route.

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RE: frauds list - 11/3/2014 12:00:30 PM

Charles6682

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Joined: 10/1/2007
From: Saint Pete,FL
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I do not agree with a fraud list. Facebook had a page like that. "Bad Dommes". The problem with a list like that is any John or Jane Doe can add anybody they don't like to that list. It's unfair to the person who get's thrown on that list, just because some jerk with nothing else to do didn't like a certain word. The best feature Collarspace has, is the "block" button. That's much better.

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RE: frauds list - 11/3/2014 6:00:24 PM

darkmatter24

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quote:

ORIGINAL: kowtowed
i cant see a post here where all the frauds, embezzlers, fakes and phonies can be listed -isn't it high time this site got cleaned up? so annoying to have to trawl through all the garbage -wanting payment, 'contracts' 'tributes' or trying to con you to join some stupid sites. No longer a bdsm site really - just a drop off spot for various kinds of embezzlers looking for suckers

In my time here, I have created a couple of lists of profiles with obviously stolen pictures that could be google'd or containing otherwise fraudulent content that screamed criminal intent. The result was that the thread was deleted, some mod emailed me with a warning, while scammers and thieves maintained their profiles for months and years afterwards. Perhaps to this day, I don't know, I typically block them right away with the exception of rare experimental cases.

Desperate souls around here will tell you that you are simply annoyed at not getting enough attention, which is their roundabout way of sycophant butt-licking of the powers that be. Yes, there is a big problem here with criminals plying their craft in broad daylight. An honest, clear headed person would be hard-pressed not to cringe. It is really up to individual users to remove the scum though because the dynamic of the site promotes it for a few different reasons. Mods want ad clicks, women want money, and men hope to get with women by pretending they don't notice extortion plots.

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RE: frauds list - 11/3/2014 6:06:50 PM

LaTigresse

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Oh yay, two whiners in one thread.

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RE: frauds list - 11/3/2014 6:16:24 PM

RareByrd

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Wow, I'm surprised at everyone jumping on the OP.

I think some people are misunderstanding just what's mean by a fake or a fraud. This isn't just someone who isn't to your liking, and it isn't just obvious fakes like Nigerian scammers. Some frauds are very good at what they do, and it may take some time to out one. I too think it would be great if we had a way of warning others not to waste their time.

I've often wished I had a way to warn other submissive women when I find out that a "single" man on here... is very much not. That's probably the most common scenario where I wish I had this ability.

I too wish the mods would take complaints more seriously. I don't bother reporting anymore when I see a fake photo on a profile or receive one in a message, because nothing is ever done. Again, it's not necessarily the case that everyone will easily see it as a fraud. Many people aren't even aware of how to use Google image search, and I've surprised more than one faker by pointing out that they aren't, say, an Australian tennis star whose image they used.

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RE: frauds list - 11/3/2014 6:55:54 PM

darkmatter24

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quote:

ORIGINAL: RareByrd
I think some people are misunderstanding just what's mean by a fake or a fraud. This isn't just someone who isn't to your liking, and it isn't just obvious fakes like Nigerian scammers.

I am not sure if people misunderstand it as much as they simply don't want to touch the subject because it hits a sore spot. It doesn't take a lot of perceptiveness to notice the preponderance of scammers on the site. So the hostile postures trying to silence or ridicule the OP are simply reactions designed to keep things as they are.

quote:

ORIGINAL: RareByrd
I too wish the mods would take complaints more seriously. I don't bother reporting anymore when I see a fake photo on a profile or receive one in a message, because nothing is ever done. Again, it's not necessarily the case that everyone will easily see it as a fraud. Many people aren't even aware of how to use Google image search, and I've surprised more than one faker by pointing out that they aren't, say, an Australian tennis star whose image they used.

Google image search should be the first check point for any photo posted around here. Also, if anybody asks you for money in any way shape or form, report them and cut. Reporting, as mentioned above, will not do anything, but you will have done your part in the good fight.

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