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RE: Have you personaly ever been to a Ladies Tea Party ... - 11/7/2014 10:48:05 PM   
LittleGirlHeart


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Maybe it's cuz nudity is literally an all day everyday thing to me. Maybe if I found nudity taboo. It does, I feel illustrate whos there to serve and be served. Maybe it's cuz I'm a switch, maybe because I don't know and don't follow typical feminist ideas, in the way it means women are superior to men.

NOW, ask me about a play party, with servants who were there and their job was a guaranteed service to the woman in a dominant position based on the negotiation yeah then that would interest me. And thrill me. Simply rubbing my feet or handswhilei drink tea, nah. Hehe.
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Yes . I just do not find nudity in it self arousing , thrilling, interesting or of interest .


The CONCEPT that you speak of is interesting, because nudity, in and of itself, is one thing, while the EMPOWERMENT of the females not being naked (while the males are) is SUPPOSED to be another thing altogether.

Likewise, the COMPARISON of the males is supposed to be, based on what I read, part of the fun, where, in effect, the women turn the tables on the men, who, historically, compared breasts, buns, and the like, between women (not that the women weren't willing partners in allowing those comparisons to occur).

So, I find it interesting that, for you, the nudity, in and of itself, was ho hum, as, the tea-party sites prophesier:
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The male's nudity places him in a position of being objectified and exploited by women subject to their whims and desires. It carries with it control and empowerment of women. It is a reversal of the traditional exploitation of nudity, and thus fits well with feminist views. When outside the context of sex in the bedroom, mandated nudity often places one in a vulnerable and exposed state. This is why prisoners are often stripped naked - to humiliate them and break their will. The original concept of “naked” as first described in Genesis of Adam and Eve occurred right after their transgression, and was used to show vulnerability. In any confrontation, vulnerability defines a position of inferiority against superiority. Hence, the mandated CFNM rules of our parties establish a priori, female power, control and superiority.









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RE: Have you personaly ever been to a Ladies Tea Party ... - 11/8/2014 11:08:44 AM   
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No. It was nice to be waited on, but they were not thrilling.


That seems to be the general consensus.

I guess, the huge difference between the sexes, is why a bunch of naked servants isn't as interesting to the womenfolk, as to the men.



Women are wired differently than men; we aren't as visually stimulated. Generally speaking, penises are only as interesting as the man who wields it.

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RE: Have you personaly ever been to a Ladies Tea Party ... - 11/8/2014 1:11:56 PM   
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Oh, I've seen some mens penises / body and had very visceral and primal yum yum reactions, just based on its looks alone.
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No. It was nice to be waited on, but they were not thrilling.


That seems to be the general consensus.

I guess, the huge difference between the sexes, is why a bunch of naked servants isn't as interesting to the womenfolk, as to the men.



Women are wired differently than men; we aren't as visually stimulated. Generally speaking, penises are only as interesting as the man who wields it.



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RE: Have you personaly ever been to a Ladies Tea Party ... - 11/8/2014 10:49:47 PM   
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Women are wired differently than men; we aren't as visually stimulated.


In my humble opinion, men are, in general, bulgy, hairy and butt ugly compared to womyn, who are deliciously soft and curvy.

We evolved differently, basically so that the privates of womyn are good looking while the privates of men are ugly.

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RE: Have you personaly ever been to a Ladies Tea Party ... - 11/10/2014 12:24:06 PM   
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I guess, the huge difference between the sexes, is why a bunch of naked servants isn't as interesting to the womenfolk, as to the men.

I've never been to any parties in California, but I've been to a few small CFNM parties similar to those described on the web site you shared. They were not real high protocol, but it was clear that the men were there to serve and the women were to be served. The men did not hover but remained nearby and attentive, ready to refill cups, etc. Asking could go either way: a sub could offer to fetch or pamper; a domme could ask for what she wanted. There was no heavy BDSM play, just soft lighting, quiet music, and a chance for the dommes to relax, have snacks, and get to know one another.

Personally, I very much enjoy(ed) the CFNM dynamic, because I love seeing male subs vulnerable and exposed. It may not be a "sexual thrill" but I definitely find it titillating. And believe me, most of the subs there did NOT have Adonis-like bodies. They also ranged from their 20's to their 50's or 60's.

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RE: Have you personaly ever been to a Ladies Tea Party ... - 11/10/2014 12:31:28 PM   
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In my humble opinion, men are, in general, bulgy, hairy and butt ugly compared to womyn, who are deliciously soft and curvy.

We evolved differently, basically so that the privates of womyn are good looking while the privates of men are ugly.


I think men's bodies can be every bit as beautiful as women's. Saying that women are inherently beautiful and men are inherently ugly puts women in the role of objectified object (who must then spend millions of dollars to remain beautiful), while men get to remain in the role of judge.

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RE: Have you personaly ever been to a Ladies Tea Party ... - 11/10/2014 4:44:44 PM   
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I think men's bodies can be every bit as beautiful as women's.


While I can't disagree, philosophically, with you, nor can I fully disassociate from my gender-oriented brain, a pragmatic look at what womyn find attractive in men versus what men find attractive in womyn would show a marked difference, don't you think?

Take for example, the endless discussion of why womyn, in general, DON'T want to see a cock shot in the profile pictures, where, men, in general, aren't at all put off by a crotch/boob/buns shot in a female profile.

Are boobs beautiful? I don't think we'd ever find many men who would say no to that question.
Are cocks beautiful? I think we'd find a lot of womyn who would have much more varying opinions about that, with the comment that "if you've seen one, you've seen them all" and "it's not the size but the motion", etc., being prevalent.

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RE: Have you personaly ever been to a Ladies Tea Party ... - 11/10/2014 8:09:23 PM   
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No. It was nice to be waited on, but they were not thrilling.


That seems to be the general consensus.

I guess, the huge difference between the sexes, is why a bunch of naked servants isn't as interesting to the womenfolk, as to the men.


Most dominant women don't have trouble finding a man who will be naked for them. And women like personal attention and a personal connection, so the notion of a naked man who is happy to serve any woman there is probably a bit of a yawner for most women. If there is even a minor thrill from seeing a naked man serving them, that thrill probably wears off quickly.

As a submissive man, I would find fulfilling that role to be boring. I wouldn't have any interest in being naked and serving tea to a bunch of women I didn't know and who I felt nothing in particular about.


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RE: Have you personaly ever been to a Ladies Tea Party ... - 11/11/2014 12:04:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Subano


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I think men's bodies can be every bit as beautiful as women's.


While I can't disagree, philosophically, with you, nor can I fully disassociate from my gender-oriented brain, a pragmatic look at what womyn find attractive in men versus what men find attractive in womyn would show a marked difference, don't you think?

Take for example, the endless discussion of why womyn, in general, DON'T want to see a cock shot in the profile pictures, where, men, in general, aren't at all put off by a crotch/boob/buns shot in a female profile.

Are boobs beautiful? I don't think we'd ever find many men who would say no to that question.
Are cocks beautiful? I think we'd find a lot of womyn who would have much more varying opinions about that, with the comment that "if you've seen one, you've seen them all" and "it's not the size but the motion", etc., being prevalent.


If women are not aroused by pictures of random men's body parts -- uninvited and unwanted -- it only proves that. It doesn't mean that women can't be aroused by specific men's bodies under the right circumstances. And it certainly doesn't prove that "men's bodies are ugly."

http://www.labcoatlingerie.com/2014/04/06/the-unsolicited-dick-pic-and-why-it-sucks-for-everyone/

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RE: Have you personaly ever been to a Ladies Tea Party ... - 11/11/2014 5:02:55 PM   
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http://www.labcoatlingerie.com/2014/04/06/the-unsolicited-dick-pic-and-why-it-sucks-for-everyone/


A good quote in there was
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The sad thing about all of this is that I genuinely love a good dick pic. I like dicks. I like the way they feel inside me, I like the way they feel in my hands, I like the way they look. They’re pretty. They are nice to look at! But I have rarely had the occasion to be happy about a dick pic, because it has almost always been thrust upon me non-consensually.


and, of course
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I just wanted you to like me, he said

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RE: Have you personaly ever been to a Ladies Tea Party ... - 11/11/2014 5:04:26 PM   
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One of the most revealing sentences in that article was
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he desire to be desired is a real, legitimate desire, and something that, as a whole, men aren’t allowed to experience in our society


I can truly identify with that.

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RE: Have you personaly ever been to a Ladies Tea Party ... - 11/11/2014 5:08:06 PM   
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One last quote that hit home was
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This just contributes to the overall problem of how, societally, we brand men as unwantable. We frame men as the pursuers and women as the pursued, and we don’t allow it any other way. We don’t allow men to be wanted. We don’t allow women to want
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That entire article was prophetic, even though I'd never consider sending a dick pick to anyone, and, I'd think nobody but the one would even care to see my cock display itself in all its pride and glory.

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RE: Have you personaly ever been to a Ladies Tea Party ... - 11/11/2014 5:16:18 PM   
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I think men's bodies can be every bit as beautiful as women's.

All things being equal (which they never are), would I rather see a naked woman or a naked man? Natch, it depends on the man.

It is true that in classical art, it is the body of a youth which has been celebrated. Look at the sculpture of Michelangelo's David (other than puny package).

I can appreciate appearances as to whether they are aesthetically pleasing. And like Spy, a nice cock is...a nice cock, but whyTF would I want to see random cocks?
On a personal note, when my man is my man, his body is the most beautiful to behold. His entire body belongs to me, and I become his artilect. The celluloid body of the hunkiest actor is nothing compared to the man I'm with, the man I own.

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RE: Have you personaly ever been to a Ladies Tea Party ... - 11/11/2014 6:07:28 PM   
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Are boobs beautiful? I don't think we'd ever find many men who would say no to that question.
Are cocks beautiful? I think we'd find a lot of womyn who would have much more varying opinions about that, with the comment that "if you've seen one, you've seen them all" and "it's not the size but the motion", etc., being prevalent.

There are Doms and S/switches I've spoken with who are put off by crotch and (gaping) ass shots. Sagging asymmetrical boobs aren't so appealing to them (and vanilla men) either; some men are turned off if breasts don't appear to be natural.

It was customary in ancient Greek and Roman times for the women to greet returning soldiers from battle by tearing their robes to expose their bare breasts. This may have been a public display of their welcoming enthusiasm, but it was supposed to have a calming influence on warriors still suffering from blood lust (which in the 20th century was termed "shell-shock," more recently associated with PTSD).

Btw, <clears throat> the saying 'It's not the size [of the ship] but the motion [of the ocean]' was more than likely devised by under-endowed or average-sized men and then repeated by the women who married them. No single woman I've known personally espouses such a view.

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< Message edited by FieryOpal -- 11/11/2014 6:18:17 PM >


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