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LittleGirlHeart -> if you knew you would have a shitty life, and could choose to be born or not, would you be born? (11/8/2014 12:21:57 AM)

I think if I knew everything I have gone through and live with, I would choose not to exsist.



ExiledTyrant -> RE: if you knew you would have a shitty life, and could choose to be born or not, would you be born? (11/8/2014 3:56:47 AM)

Good thing that Stephen Hawking didn't agree with you.



kallisto -> RE: if you knew you would have a shitty life, and could choose to be born or not, would you be born? (11/8/2014 5:32:46 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LittleGirlHeart

I think if I knew everything I have gone through and live with, I would choose not to exsist.



OMG ... I see that as such as sad way to think.



InHisHeart -> RE: if you knew you would have a shitty life, and could choose to be born or not, would you be born? (11/8/2014 5:49:02 AM)

To me life is not about what cards you're dealt, it's how you play them. Life hasn't always been a bowl of cherries for me, I've been through hell but I learned (which took time and hard work) not to dwell on the shit I was dealt, but deal with it, accept it, in some cases I've turned it around by helping others that are going through something similar and I embrace the good in life.



YouName -> RE: if you knew you would have a shitty life, and could choose to be born or not, would you be born? (11/8/2014 5:51:56 AM)

There's often a fighting chance. Whether through hard work, studying or if necessary more darker and sinister paths.

But what does this mean? Am I born with all the qualities and faults I have or not? Stephen Hawking probably has a reasonable life considering the depth of his mind which he can explore and do so in the company of people like him. It is the people who haven't succeeded that may not.

The Guardian has an interesting video on the situation in one Asian country.
It's not extreme poverty or anything. Just how different people are treated in different places.

Mentally ill people left chained as Typhoon sweeps.


Obviously alot of people end their lives and alot of lives are expended in sensless ways, through for example starvation created by exploitation and corruption the person can hardly affect. Or closer to our world the endless bullying, depression and what not that may happen if you're born into the wrong family, with the wrong outlook on life and in the wrong place. Not everyone can dig themselves out of it and for some the hole is just too big when they do not have a shovel.

Imagine being born a starving child, destined to die at the age of 9.
Would you suffer this to teach the world about your plight? Does the world deserve this lesson?



YouName -> RE: if you knew you would have a shitty life, and could choose to be born or not, would you be born? (11/8/2014 5:54:12 AM)

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ORIGINAL: InHisHeart

To me life is not about what cards you're dealt, it's how you play them. Life hasn't always been a bowl of cherries for me, I've been through hell but I learned (which took time and hard work) not to dwell on the shit I was dealt, but deal with it, accept it, in some cases I've turned it around by helping others that are going through something similar and I embrace the good in life.



In contrast to poker there isn't much oppurtunity to bluff in life. Analogy is false or at least very weak and repeated too much though the rest of your post rings true.



Musicmystery -> RE: if you knew you would have a shitty life, and could choose to be born or not, would you be born? (11/8/2014 8:27:07 AM)

There is no good and bad. There is only what we learn and what we do with it.

This too shall pass -- the good and the bad.



dcnovice -> RE: if you knew you would have a shitty life, and could choose to be born or not, would you be born? (11/8/2014 8:38:43 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LittleGirlHeart

I think if I knew everything I have gone through and live with, I would choose not to exsist.

I understand that feeling. Big hugs to you!



DesFIP -> RE: if you knew you would have a shitty life, and could choose to be born or not, would you be born? (11/8/2014 9:45:58 AM)

The Man was watching The Horse Whisperer earlier. At some point the kid says the horse should be put down and so should she. That's depression speaking.

Be the change you want to see in the world. That's all you can do.



LittleGirlHeart -> RE: if you knew you would have a shitty life, and could choose to be born or not, would you be born? (11/8/2014 9:49:03 AM)

Thank you. Big hugs to you.
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ORIGINAL: dcnovice


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ORIGINAL: LittleGirlHeart

I think if I knew everything I have gone through and live with, I would choose not to exsist.

I understand that feeling. Big hugs to you!




FieryOpal -> RE: if you knew you would have a shitty life, and could choose to be born or not, would you be born? (11/8/2014 9:57:14 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Be the change you want to see in the world. That's all you can do.

I wish you didn't feel this way, LittleGirlHeart (and dcnovice). Life is such a precious gift. You have love and loved ones who need you. You have a D/s with your DaddyDom and aren't still out there seeking. There is much to be thankful for, and there's always somebody else who has it worse off than you do, even on your worst day.

Back when I was a New Ager, I used to say this mantra to myself daily, and it's as valid today as it was then: Let me be a channel of blessings to others.

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YouName -> RE: if you knew you would have a shitty life, and could choose to be born or not, would you be born? (11/8/2014 10:07:30 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

There is no good and bad. There is only what we learn and what we do with it.

This too shall pass -- the good and the bad.


Good one.



LittleGirlHeart -> RE: if you knew you would have a shitty life, and could choose to be born or not, would you be born? (11/8/2014 11:00:17 AM)

No, not D/s but yes, a Daddy n best friend.

I did say yesterday, well then i guess i wouldnt be bringing the joy to thers that i do, if i hadn't exsisted.
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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal


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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Be the change you want to see in the world. That's all you can do.

I wish you didn't feel this way, LittleGirlHeart (and dcnovice). Life is such a precious gift. You have love and loved ones who need you. You have a D/s with your DaddyDom and aren't still out there seeking. There is much to be thankful for, and there's always somebody else who has it worse off than you do, even on your worst day.

Back when I was a New Ager, I used to say this mantra to myself daily, and it's as valid today as it was then: Let me be a channel of blessings to others.

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shiftyw -> RE: if you knew you would have a shitty life, and could choose to be born or not, would you be born? (11/8/2014 11:58:02 AM)

I'm sorry you are feeling this way, do you have anyone to talk to about this?
I've been there, this too shall pass, music is right. Best of luck and all my sympathies to you <3



LittleGirlHeart -> RE: if you knew you would have a shitty life, and could choose to be born or not, would you be born? (11/8/2014 12:08:04 PM)

Thank you shifty, I talk to Daddy, but professionally, no.


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ORIGINAL: shiftyw

I'm sorry you are feeling this way, do you have anyone to talk to about this?
I've been there, this too shall pass, music is right. Best of luck and all my sympathies to you <3




Isildur37 -> RE: if you knew you would have a shitty life, and could choose to be born or not, would you be born? (11/8/2014 12:55:06 PM)


Intellectually I can't agree. Emotionally I don't agree. And spiritually...well...I won't agree. Life is precious. We all wrestle with the shadow. I believe we are all under the same yoke. Continue to reach out with all of your senses. It's not too late! It's great to be alive.




sexyred1 -> RE: if you knew you would have a shitty life, and could choose to be born or not, would you be born? (11/8/2014 3:23:41 PM)

I hear ya, OP.

When people post platitudes like this too shall pass or learn from your troubles, they are full of crap.

Sometimes things like health issues or sadness over loss or disappointments never pass.

I think you pose an interesting question.

Whether or not I wished I was never born is a moot point since I was born, I got what I got and no one promised that life would be fair.

No one can compare your troubles to anyone else's.




LittleGirlHeart -> RE: if you knew you would have a shitty life, and could choose to be born or not, would you be born? (11/8/2014 4:03:12 PM)

Sexyred1, yes. I know people mean well, but I hate when people say well there's people worse off, cuz it's not a whose pain or situation is worse thing. Feelings are feelings. Pain is pain. I kind of also feel that, yeah well I know, and they manage to do so much more, with much worse, so why can't I function better.

I will feel less down , it is true that will pass.
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ORIGINAL: sexyred1

I hear ya, OP.

When people post platitudes like this too shall pass or learn from your troubles, they are full of crap.

Sometimes things like health issues or sadness over loss or disappointments never pass.

I think you pose an interesting question.

Whether or not I wished I was never born is a moot point since I was born, I got what I got and no one promised that life would be fair.

No one can compare your troubles to anyone else's.






FieryOpal -> RE: if you knew you would have a shitty life, and could choose to be born or not, would you be born? (11/8/2014 4:23:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LittleGirlHeart

Sexyred1, yes. I know people mean well, but I hate when people say well there's people worse off, cuz it's not a whose pain or situation is worse thing. Feelings are feelings. Pain is pain.

OP, if I came across as not validating your feelings by saying that there are others who are worse off, that isn't how I meant it. One of the hardest things to do when you are in pain and anguish is to redirect your focus off of yourself. If you cannot get your focus away from yourself, once you have overstayed that inner process, then the pity party will never leave. You know that this is not healthy for you.

I sympathize with whatever is going on in your life to make you feel like this. Please don't take this the wrong way, but short of being in debilitating physical pain or battling a chronic illness that is wiping you out day in and day out, I could have gone to that dark place of hopelessness. It would have been so much easier for me to give up and throw in the towel. To escape. But I couldn't afford to go there. I had to be the primary (sole) caregiver for two loved ones who were later hospitalized at overlapping times in two different hospitals in two different states. I still have a child at home to raise so I had to stay functional for his sake as well. I buried my husband and my mother 3 months apart, and I had no one to turn to, being the only one left in my family who could handle things. At the very minimum, I should have at least 3 nervous breakdowns during that period when I felt as if I were living in a private hell.

The point is, the only way you can pull yourself out of this ditch is to help others, redirect your focus off of yourself and onto those who are less fortunate than you are. I've been there, and if you cannot get the therapy that you need, this is the solution. Please take it for what it's worth, my friend.



Kaliko -> RE: if you knew you would have a shitty life, and could choose to be born or not, would you be born? (11/8/2014 6:33:21 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Isildur37


Intellectually I can't agree. Emotionally I don't agree. And spiritually...well...I won't agree. Life is precious. We all wrestle with the shadow. I believe we are all under the same yoke. Continue to reach out with all of your senses. It's not too late! It's great to be alive.




I believe this.

And this - very much:


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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal


The point is, the only way you can pull yourself out of this ditch is to help others, redirect your focus off of yourself and onto those who are less fortunate than you are. I've been there, and if you cannot get the therapy that you need, this is the solution. Please take it for what it's worth, my friend.






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