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RE: Why do alpha males want to be forced by their beaut... - 11/12/2014 8:37:00 PM   
LookieNoNookie


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ORIGINAL: monochomatic1

I have been given a writing assignment by my Mistress, and she wants more details, data from others. Can anyone provide some insight on this subject for me?
Thank you so much,
Mono


You wanna suck cock.....suck cock.

Working the posts herein to find a way to get others to convince you to (or discuss that you should) suck cock is kind of a waste of time.

Go suck some cock.

Big cock.

Massive cock.

Suck cock.

You don't need my (or anyone else's) permission.

Suck cock.

Lot's of cock.

Start sucking.

Sluuuuuurp.

(Are you sucking yet?)

Suck away.

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RE: Why do alpha males want to be forced by their beaut... - 11/14/2014 3:18:46 PM   
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I can tell you as an Alpha male that I do not desire nor will I suck another male's cock. That is a common fantasy of the Domme, not of the Alpha male.

It's a common fantasy for hetero-flexible male bottoms. It goes along with those who want their submission "forced." I don't know any straight lifestyle Dommes who get into this. There might be a Cuckoldress or two.

OP, wanting to be your Mistress's bitch does not make you an alpha male. Having your submission "forced" does not make you an alpha male, nor a submissive either. It just makes you someone's bitch.


Having run a dungeon in on the central Atlantic coast for 7 years, rarely did I see male subs come in and ask for this, though it would happen on occasion. On the other hand 60% of the Dommes enjoyed seeing male on male action. Since the male was paying they generally would not push the issue. Private parties were another story though.

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RE: Why do alpha males want to be forced by their beaut... - 11/14/2014 5:37:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Msayer2009

Having run a dungeon in on the central Atlantic coast for 7 years, rarely did I see male subs come in and ask for this, though it would happen on occasion. On the other hand 60% of the Dommes enjoyed seeing male on male action. Since the male was paying they generally would not push the issue. Private parties were another story though.

They don't ask for it because they want to be "forced" into doing it. I know this isn't just an on-line phenomenon either (and believe me, there's plenty of that, despite the Hard Limits I've listed and what's contained in my profile). Straight lifestyle Dommes don't usually get into seeing the male-on-male stuff and/or "forced bi" and "forced" feminization/sissification, as far as I can tell. Then of course, I wouldn't know IRL about those who are poly, Cuckoldresses, or bisexual, so your experience and mine vary widely (yours being Dungeon or a more public BDSM venue, mine being lifestyle privately at home). If the male sub isn't objecting, then he's consenting. Tacit compliance is consent.

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RE: Why do alpha males want to be forced by their beaut... - 11/15/2014 6:11:30 AM   
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I do NOT like forcing or pretending to force. Period.

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ORIGINAL: monochomatic1

Why do alpha males want to be forced by their beautiful mistress, to suck male cock?


A better question would be:

Why do some males want to be forced by their mistress to suck male cock?

My answer is because they don't want to take responsibility for their own desires. They want to be "forced," so they can feel like they didn't have a choice in doing something they can't admit (even to themselves) that they want, because of their upbringing, taboo, or just because they are homophobic.

Also, after, they can always say (to themselves and others), "I only did it because of that big meanie-pants!"

Oh, and this (again, in my opinion) is NOT alpha behavior. Alphas take ownership of their lives, their wants, and their desires.

Just my perspective. YMMV.


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RE: Why do alpha males want to be forced by their beaut... - 11/15/2014 10:04:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: NookieNotes

I do NOT like forcing or pretending to force. Period.
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A better question would be:

Why do some males want to be forced by their mistress to suck male cock?

My answer is because they don't want to take responsibility for their own desires. They want to be "forced," so they can feel like they didn't have a choice in doing something they can't admit (even to themselves) that they want, because of their upbringing, taboo, or just because they are homophobic.

Also, after, they can always say (to themselves and others), "I only did it because of that big meanie-pants!"

Oh, and this (again, in my opinion) is NOT alpha behavior. Alphas take ownership of their lives, their wants, and their desires.

To tell you the truth, this whole "forced" business is a boatload of crap. I'm not talking about partners sitting down and discussing what kinds of CNC activities they want to stage in their edge play.

It's the "My Domme made me do it" or "My Master made me do it" syndrome that some subs get into. Now, I'm not saying that subs don't get coerced or that they haven't set limits for themselves which end up getting trampled on (no pun intended). It's about taking personal responsibility for your life instead of presuming that a power exchange dynamic absolves you of doing so.

Also Nookie, and you may have more to add to this, I think there are subs-bottoms who have submission issues and can only get off on having their submission "forced." This is why the sometimes scoffed-at (but not by me) position taken that "Submission is a gift" is important to be acknowledged and not minimized. Let's not get hung up on the word "gift" either. Life is a gift. It is to be honored and venerated. I don't want a man's "forced" submission. He can take his "forced" submission and...put it where the sun doesn't shine. If his submission isn't willingly offered and given of his own volition, then it's meaningless to me; this is all just a game to him, and I don't play those kinds of games.

P.S. OP, the fact that your topic contains the descriptors "alpha" in describing the sub, and "beautiful" in describing [M]istress, tends to point to this as being FemDom (porn) fantasist wank fodder.

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RE: Why do alpha males want to be forced by their beaut... - 11/15/2014 10:26:15 AM   
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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal

Also Nookie, and you may have more to add to this, I think there are subs-bottoms who have submission issues and can only get off on having their submission "forced." This is why the sometimes scoffed-at (but not by me) position taken that "Submission is a gift" is important to be acknowledged and not minimized. Let's not get hung up on the word "gift" either. Life is a gift. It is to be honored and venerated. I don't want a man's "forced" submission. He can take his "forced" submission and...put it where the sun doesn't shine. If his submission isn't willingly offered and given of his own volition, then it's meaningless to me; this is all just a game to him, and I don't play those kinds of games.


You and I agree... I would use the words honor or earned.

Submission is an honor.
Submission is earned.

To me (MY opinion), a gift is forever. Submission is something that can and should be revoked in specific circumstances.

If a man wants to serve me, I will accept him at his word. I will discuss things with him. I will even change my mind, based on input. But once I make a decision, and we have discussed it, it must be done. Willingly. Happily. Not sulkily.

Domination is a joy to me. Submission MUST be a joy to him, or I will stop. Period.

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RE: Why do alpha males want to be forced by their beaut... - 11/15/2014 10:52:43 AM   
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ORIGINAL: NookieNotes
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[To me (MY opinion), a gift is forever. Submission is something that can and should be revoked in specific circumstances.
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Domination is a joy to me. Submission MUST be a joy to him, or I will stop. Period.

Well yes, an actual gift should not have strings attached. It's like if you gave someone in your family a horse or some other pet as a present (although the pet doesn't get a choice in the matter). If the recipient can't take care of the gift, neglects it or abuses it, then it is understood that you can and will step in to intervene. So this makes it more of a "living" and breathing, organic gift - the gift of responsible stewardship - as opposed to an inanimate gift.

There are some who get submissiveness and passivity mixed up. Nobody I know of wants a passive partner, although there are exceptions. To me, submission has to be approached with enthusiasm, and if the gift of Dominance I have to offer isn't valued enough to be received with enthusiasm on an ongoing basis, then it will be rescinded in a heartbeat accordingly.

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RE: Why do alpha males want to be forced by their beaut... - 11/15/2014 11:16:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal
There are some who get submissiveness and passivity mixed up. Nobody I know of wants a passive partner, although there are exceptions. To me, submission has to be approached with enthusiasm, and if the gift of Dominance I have to offer isn't valued enough to be received with enthusiasm on an ongoing basis, then it will be rescinded in a heartbeat accordingly.


Agreed!

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